FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[altor]

I've been by Wittenberg and thought it had seats on both sides, but looking on Google Maps, that must be a one-sider too.  Perhaps it used to have seats on both sides and they took out the visiting bleachers for the all-weather track?

Since nobody seems to be posting on this board tonight...just thought I'd put one final thing into this discussion before calling it dead.

I talked to my father today, who grew up in Springfield, and Wittenberg did indeed have stands on the east side of the stadium at one time, but probably not when I would have ever seen them.

[altor]

DC finished on a good note.  Sent the seniors out with a 35-0 shutout against Bluffton to keep "the hammer" in Defiance for another year.  As a side-note, has anyone actually seen "the hammer?"

A bit of a disappointing season.  They should have beaten Manchester and Hanover, but I was expecting a loss in Terre Haute.

I haven't seen a schedule for next year.  Since they'll have an odd number of teams, the HCAC almost has to play 8 conference games.  Keeping Trine and Adrian on the schedule makes a lot of sense, if only from a travel budget perspective.

Don't know that I have anything insightful to say.  It was a blah ending to a blah season.  Time to get out the roundballs.

[SaintsFAN]

If Pats projections hold up, MSJ at Whitewater next Saturday.  Not good.  ONU at TMC in a homecoming for Dean Paul..

And funny to see Pat refernce the night I took him to Dickmans on this night a year ago

[dc_has_been]

DC finished on a good note.  Sent the seniors out with a 35-0 shutout against Bluffton to keep "the hammer" in Defiance for another year.  As a side-note, has anyone actually seen "the hammer?"

A bit of a disappointing season.  They should have beaten Manchester and Hanover, but I was expecting a loss in Terre Haute.

I haven't seen a schedule for next year.  Since they'll have an odd number of teams, the HCAC almost has to play 8 conference games.  Keeping Trine and Adrian on the schedule makes a lot of sense, if only from a travel budget perspective.

Don't know that I have anything insightful to say.  It was a blah ending to a blah season.  Time to get out the roundballs.

Never knew there was a hammer involved.  Just knew there was a rivalry between the two.  I personally took the Adrian rivalry to heart more than Bluffton while I was at DC.

I also agree that DC should have beaten Manchester & Hanover, but in typical DC fashion as of late they played very poorly when they IMO were the better team.  It will be interesting to see what happens for next year w/ the scheduling too.  I would like them to keep Adrian & branch out of the MIAA & go with a NCAC like Wooster or Wabash, CCIW like North Central team, or get things going with TMC again.  I want to see them start playing tougher teams.

[dc_has_been]

If Pats projections hold up, MSJ at Whitewater next Saturday.  Not good.  ONU at TMC in a homecoming for Dean Paul..

And funny to see Pat refernce the night I took him to Dickmans on this night a year ago

I don't see how Trine could get seeded over MSJ for the Whitewater bracket?  Trine & MSJ share the same record & MSJ beat Franklin while Trine lost to them.  Plus, Trine comes from a weaker conference.  Not the much weaker but I would think most would agree it is (I don't know what the rankings from Kickoff are Pat ). 

[Pat Coleman]

You may have a point there -- Trine's SOS was .503 and MSJ's was .493, which is why I went that direction.

[cave2bens]

Never knew there was a hammer involved.  Just knew there was a rivalry between the two.  I personally took the Adrian rivalry to heart more than Bluffton while I was at DC.

I also agree that DC should have beaten Manchester & Hanover, but in typical DC fashion as of late they played very poorly when they IMO were the better team.  It will be interesting to see what happens for next year w/ the scheduling too.  I would like them to keep Adrian & branch out of the MIAA & go with a NCAC like Wooster or Wabash, CCIW like North Central team, or get things going with TMC again.  I want to see them start playing tougher teams.

I didn't know of "a hammer" either, BP, and wonder if the Bluffton "rivalry" isn't resultant process of elimination based on series longevity.  Football rivals during my DC days were ONU and Findlay - of course, that was during the "dark ages."

The conference affiliations and agreements (like the NCAC/UAA deal) make schedule alterations difficult, and for now, it appears that the closest the Jackets might get to playing a 'Bash or Woo is an inherited Earlham team.  At least in the case of Wabash, there would be NO sacrifice of DePauw for Defiance,  - personal experience not withstanding  .

Lily isn't dating yet, is she? 

[altor]

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who has never seen the thing.  I'm pretty sure it's a recent addition to the rivalry and neither team really makes a big deal of the trophy as far as I can tell, so it doesn't surprise me that y'all have never heard of it.  I understand it's pretty large, but I'd expect it to be displayed somewhere.  At least bring it out to the sideline during the game or something.  I mean, this thing isn't the Monon Bell that's likely to get stolen.  And what is the likelihood that Mennonites would steal it anyways?

[SaintsFAN]

MSJ at Witt.
Depauw at Thomas More.

Saints got the 2 seed in south on the strength of the "game" yesterday.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

MSJ at Witt.
Depauw at Thomas More.

Saints got the 2 seed in south on the strength of the "game" yesterday.

Glad Franklin could help the SOS by helping MSJ stay unbeaten for the Bridge Bowl.  TM has a great shot to advance.  DePauw is no better than FC IMO. 

Good luck to MSJ as well.  It could be worse.  Wittenberg is really good but not unbeatable. 

Congrats to the Griz on keeping the Victory Bell for the fifth straight year.  Most players back next year for the Griz.  7-3 is certainly not the best record but the losses come to undefeated Butler and two conference champions.  Nothing to be ashamed of.  34-8 the last four seasons.

[cave2bens]

I'm glad to know I wasn't the only one who has never seen the thing.  And what is the likelihood that Mennonites would steal it anyways?

Depends if there're more than three barn-raisings scheduled for the same day in the greater, Bluffton metroplex...    Before any howls of insensitivity, I'm married to a former Mennonite maiden from scenic Wayne County. 

[altor]

Good luck to MSJ as well.  It could be worse.  Wittenberg is really good but not unbeatable. 

Pat made a good point on the selection show.  You've got to question how much Witt has been tested.  The toughest team on their schedule did not have their starting QB.

Congrats to the Griz on keeping the Victory Bell for the fifth straight year.  Most players back next year for the Griz.  7-3 is certainly not the best record but the losses come to undefeated Butler and two conference champions.  Nothing to be ashamed of.  34-8 the last four seasons.

What conference did RHIT win?   
Franklin beat the other conference champion they played.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Brain fart.  I forgot fc beat trine. Haha

[Adam Sayer]

You may have a point there -- Trine's SOS was .503 and MSJ's was .493, which is why I went that direction.

Guess they don't take into account head to head's. Which, anyone who runs a tournament, knows, that is the #1 deciding factor in seeding if applicable. Regardless, I don't see MSJ beating CWR or Witt, but I'd rather play CRW...which should be the case. Is .01 difference in SOS THAT big of a deal??? That's the difference of 1 win.

[70_dc_alum]

All the Hammer was added to the DC bluffton game in the last 3-4 years which is why none of us have a clue what it looks like.  it should be a great rivalry being the schools are only 20 min apart but outside of 2000 they have been awful so it takes a luster out of it...kinda like OSU UM right Has_been!!!!


i like the seeding for TMC and MSJ cant complain.  TMC is potentially setup for a decent run.  If MSJ can shake the beating from last week Witt is not the team TMC is.

Gut tells me TMC wins a few and gets shot at Mount Union inn the semi's