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Adam Sayer · December 18, 2009, 05:56:14 PM

He also said in a press conference that adding Notre Dame wouldn't help because it doesn't expand the geography of the Big 10. He felt the Big 10 should work its way east where it would get more pub by expanding the population of viewers.

70_dc_alum · December 19, 2009, 08:18:26 AM

The big10 does not want Notre Dame. way i heard it is 2 years ago they all walke away the big10 realized it was not a good fit for 2 reasons.

1. outside of football there is not a large fan base and revenue stream. this move is all about expanding the largest fanbase and revenue stream. the revenue of the big10 is nearly the size of the SEC and ACC combined, Notre Dame will not provide the same growth as many other markets

2. Notre Dame does not meet the acedemic standards of the confrence

i was laughing when i first heard this considering my grades could not get me a ticket into a game much less the school, but ND is not a research institution which is a huge direction for the Big10.

look for them to go east, you pull in a rutgers, Syracuse, or Boston College and you capture the new york market and that dominating lead in the market gets a lot bigger. it is all about business.

formerd3db · December 19, 2009, 01:08:38 PM

70_dc_alum:

I would be very surprised if they went that far east to add a team. While you have some valid points for consideration of such, I would think that would just involve too much additional expense regading the travel costs. Although many people have been saying this for several years as well as some of you have posted the following also in recent posts here, it seems to me that Pittsburgh would be the most logical choice for this - if they would ever leave the Big East. As others have said also, Cincinnati would be a great choice as far as location, however, their institution programs overall perhaps not quite the same "fit" as the other Big Ten teams and...even though they have appeared to reach their "big time" level as was their long range plan for years (i.e. when they decided to highly upgrade their schedule as an independent and started playing all those "suicide schedules"

- again, another tangential albeit similar argument that some of us have made/discussed as a mechanism for some DIII teams attempting to "reach the next tier or level" with their programs by playing tougher non-conference games over a period of years.

Also, I'm not sure those other teams you mention would leave the Big East, although I could be very wrong. I just don't see that happening, but again, I would be very surprised and...stranger things have happened as we all know. In this current era, perhaps nothing is surprising and "circumstances react and change with the times" so to speak. Obviously, we'll just have to wait and see what happens, if anything in the future, although my "gut feeling" is that it will still be awhile before we see that. Nonetheless, again, I could be wrong - "not even in the vincinity of the endzone"!

(thought I would use the latter phrase instead of "way off base" since we're talking about football here

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dc_has_been · December 20, 2009, 03:09:23 AM

I read that Pitt's bball coach is against leaving the Big East for the Big Ten. I would think that any Big East team would be salivating to join the Big Ten due to how strong they are in fball and bball. It would benefit teams like Pitt, Cincy, or Syaracuse because those schools bring both a strong football and basketball team every year. That would help both either one of those schools money wise IMO. I would also think that it would help the recruiting too.

Adam Sayer · December 20, 2009, 07:02:53 AM

I don't know about Pitt, but UC is a research-based institution and they have several departments that can compete not only with ND, but any other college, academically. Their law school, medical school, engineering program, and the CCM are all upper echelon programs.

SaintsFAN · December 20, 2009, 03:49:58 PM

Good.. I'm glad the Big 10 doesn't want ND.. That means they won't put on a "full court press" yo add the Irish.
I can assure you the feeling is mutual at the school. It would be a mistake to do it at this point. If they are in this same position in 5 years, they'll join the Big East.

M and L · December 21, 2009, 01:11:31 PM

All I want for X-mass is some "Karma"!!

Sayer: Your Exstenze is on the Way. MERRY X-MASS everyone!!!

dc_has_been · December 21, 2009, 11:33:12 PM

There's one M & L, Happy Hanuka (even though it is already over)!

Adam Sayer · December 22, 2009, 10:57:25 AM

I need more than that to cure my problem

Merry Chrismahonaquanza

M and L · December 22, 2009, 02:05:27 PM

Sayer, you guys on break yet?

Adam Sayer · December 23, 2009, 04:46:24 PM

Our last day was December 18

Adam Sayer · December 24, 2009, 10:17:06 AM

My New Year's Resolution: Find a new coaching job!

formerd3db · December 24, 2009, 01:04:54 PM

I'd like to wish all of you colleagues/friends here on this HCAC board a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. I've enjoyed posting with all of you this year (as in past years) and look forward to more of the same in 2010. Safe and enjoyabe holdidays to you all and enjoy all the bowl games! I'm going to try and watch as many as I can before having to face the annual and dreaded "football withdrawal" until spring football practice starts at all the levels!

SaintsFAN · December 29, 2009, 03:23:52 PM

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091228/SPT/312280024/1055/NEWS/Cincinnati+Commandos+are+new+team+in+town

The name is funny

formerd3db · December 30, 2009, 07:06:28 PM

I posted this on other boards, but will do so here as well.

Did any of you see the announcement that Grand Valley State Head Coach Chuck Martin has been offered and accepted the defensive backs coaching job at Notre Dame under his former boss Brian Kelly? I totally missed that the other day (i.e. apparently it was announced Monday). Does that surprise anyone? I think not, since Martin had been offered to go with Kelly to both Central Michigan and then Cincinnati, but turned him down. Also, Martin had said on the day of the Div. III title game that he wasn't sure if Kelly would offer him again at ND since he had turned Kelly down twice before. In addition, it was considered skeptical by some since GVSU lost the title game this year. Overall, though I'm not totally surprised. Some had also just mentioned that a minor consideration/factor was that Martin also had an Irsih/Catholic background and always wanted to consider coaching at ND in some capacity.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see who Grand Valley State picks as their next head coach. Do any of you know if any of the current staff has a chance at being considered? Or will they "go outside" this time?