FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Adam Sayer]

The Hanover teams in the last 90's and early 00's weren't bad. A few of their 1st round losses were close games. Regardless, you are correct in your overall assessment of the HCAC champ...however, had MSJ been seeded where they belonged this past post-season, they most likely would have a W on their playoff resume.

[formerd3db]

The Hanover teams in the last 90's and early 00's weren't bad. A few of their 1st round losses were close games. Regardless, you are correct in your overall assessment of the HCAC champ...however, had MSJ been seeded where they belonged this past post-season, they most likely would have a W on their playoff resume.

Boca??  you have an issue.  in the next 12 months how are you going to age 50 years?

the 2001 DC team was a playoff team and was as good as the typical HCSC champ (basically every HCSC champ but the recent Franklin run).  of course the typical HCSC champ is not a treat for Salem.

That DC team in 2001 that I saw in Crestview Hills was NOT a playoff team, IMO.  They just happened to win the HCAC


And BTW, just got back from a quickie down to Fort Lauderdale this morning... man I love that part of Florida.  Our company is putting an office down there in Boca Raton in the next calendar year (12 months from now for you rocket scientists (Adam)) and I'm going to be 1st on the list of being asked if I want to relocate down there --- the answer is yes and my lady has family in Boca, so we're good. 

Yes, phags --- I have a lady.

Sorry Rock/Boca , but I have to agree with my colleagues/friends here dc, 70's and Sayer.  As well all know, there are a lot of teams that will not go far in the playoffs each year and that includes the DIII basketball Final Four as well as DI's current Final Four started yesterday.  Using your criteria/definition, a lot of these teams regardless of the sport we're discussing, should never get in, however, as you and we know, that's just the way the system is.  My own opinion (which I realize many do not agree with me) is that I am all for the tournament the way it is set up.  Some would argue that this is "little league mentality" where everyone gets a participation  certificate, to borrow that quote from someone here who recently used that/coined that phrase.  However, I say let them participate - they earned the right by winning their conference (or in the case of basketball, their conference tourney for those teams whose conference holds those).  Besides, I always love to see the upsets as we've witnessed yesterday already in the DI basketball tourney.  While that may not happen as often in the DIII football playoffs, it can occur.  Nonetheless, the participation in the playoffs is a great experience for the players and their fans.

I will admit, however, the latter does get old after awhile if ones team doesn't advance and get beyond the first round (take if from me/us in the MIAA, with the exception of Trine this year which broke the string and advanced to the second round ).  Anyway, not detracting from your opinion as to the talent level of a team you witnessed playing; rather I'm just agreeing that the teams that get in are, indeed, playoff teams yet, perhaps not great caliber teams at times as you mention.

[70_dc_alum]

SaintsFan i just realized you made the d3football 1st team all america list in 1999!!!  congrats! 

http://www.d3football.com/tow/99/teamofyear.htm

1st team Defense Justin Harris, check out the picture.  that looks like the infamous TKO shot on you

[Adam Sayer]

Perfect tackle...helmet under the chin strap, arms around the waist, rolling the hips through (or what used to be considered a perfect tackle). Unfortunately, had he been playing nowadays that hit would have resulted in a 15-yard penalty  

I prefer the O-Lineman looking like he's on his deathbed reaching up towards Heaven.

[SaintsFAN]

SaintsFan i just realized you made the d3football 1st team all america list in 1999!!!  congrats!  

http://www.d3football.com/tow/99/teamofyear.htm

1st team Defense Justin Harris, check out the picture.  that looks like the infamous TKO shot on you

That is actually THE infamous TKO shot.   My head hurts from seeing that picture again.  

I'll betcha formerd3db remembers this picture very well.  


That lineman Sayer is talking about is Derek Bosse... he hates that picture.  I don't think his assignment EVER got to me.  Great OT

[Adam Sayer]

I'd hate the picture too if I was him. Doesn't look good as on O-lineman when you're on your back.

In honor of Kevin's fabulous picture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7yBdjaBzWw

The best hit comes around the 24 second mark.

[formerd3db]

SaintsFan i just realized you made the d3football 1st team all america list in 1999!!!  congrats!  

http://www.d3football.com/tow/99/teamofyear.htm

1st team Defense Justin Harris, check out the picture.  that looks like the infamous TKO shot on you

That is actually THE infamous TKO shot.   My head hurts from seeing that picture again.  

I'll betcha formerd3db remembers this picture very well.  


That lineman Sayer is talking about is Derek Bosse... he hates that picture.  I don't think his assignment EVER got to me.  Great OT

I'd hate the picture too if I was him. Doesn't look good as on O-lineman when you're on your back.

In honor of Kevin's fabulous picture:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7yBdjaBzWw

The best hit comes around the 24 second mark.

Yes, I remember that picture/incident very well, ouch!!!   I'm sure that old style hard synthetic turf at Alma didn't help any either - that was before they replaced it with the new style.  Many of us were concerned about that and had encourgaged them to replace it for 2-3 years before then, rather than just patching it.  Of course, the issue at hand was/always is $   Anyway, glad things eventually  turned out okay for you after that hit. 

BTW, you changed your posting nickname again? 

[SaintsFAN]

Yessir... Cave2bens helped me pick out the name... Hope you're doing well...


That field was TERRIBLE... never played on a surface like that before then --- and obviously never played again after that.

[formerd3db]

Rock Stick:

I have to agree with you - I think that's the worst I've ever seen also.   

I'm "hanging in there" and just plugging along like everyone else.  Hope you are too.  Anyway, I hope you have a blessed and enjoyable Easter weekend.   

[70_dc_alum]

  Anyway, glad things eventually  turned out okay for you after that hit. 

You sure about that...no residual effects!

[SaintsFAN]

 Anyway, glad things eventually  turned out okay for you after that hit.  

You sure about that...no residual effects!

hahaha.... did you mean to put a question mark (?) there instead of the exclamation point (!)  You're such a Defiance "grad"....  I even put examples of the question mark and exclamation point there so you could have something to go by.  You're welcome.

[70_dc_alum]

Nah I meant to emphasis it!

[Adam Sayer]

"The NCAA is looking into potential rules violations committed by West Virginia's football program under former head coach Rich Rodriguez, colleague Mark Schlabach is reporting.

Although WVU officials didn't specify the nature of the potential violations by the program, a source tells Schlabach that Rodriguez is at the center of the NCAA's examination. Rodriguez's current team, Michigan, is facing five allegations of rules violations from the NCAA relating to the amount of time players spend on football-related activities. Rodriguez and other Michigan officials are scheduled to appear before the NCAA's Committee on Infractions in August.

Rodriguez is scheduled to meet with reporters today at 2:45 p.m. ET to discuss spring ball. Obviously, we'll have more to come on this situation as it develops."

Keep in mind this is the same guy that recruits players like Chris Henry and Pacman Jones. Michigan hit a homerun here! Rich Rod is the "new" Bobby Collins.

[75 bucks]

Who is preseason #1 in HCAC

[70_dc_alum]

i would think it is a coin flip between MSJ and Franklin, likely nod to MSJ until we see what is behind the graduating offensive machine of the Grizz.