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JacketsFan

Well, I'll be dipped in tallow and have a wick stuck in my arse. Okay, I said I would do this and I'm always as good as my word. Groll called this one and I told him April Fools Day is still six months away. So, a big sloppy piece of humble pie, sans ice cream, for the Florida brigand. Now, if you lads will excuse me, I promised the missus dinner at a place tonight that doesn't serve fish and chips.

Jackets Backer

Quote from: JacketsFan on October 09, 2010, 07:19:34 PM
Well, I'll be dipped in tallow and have a wick stuck in my arse. Okay, I said I would do this and I'm always as good as my word. Groll called this one and I told him April Fools Day is still six months away. So, a big sloppy piece of humble pie, sans ice cream, for the Florida brigand. Now, if you lads will excuse me, I promised the missus dinner at a place tonight that doesn't serve fish and chips.

Florida Joe, you crack me up brother. You really thought I was pulling your chain didn't you big boy?
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."    - Winston Churchill

JacketsFan

Yeah, I swallowed that hook all the way to the gills, my man. All you had to do was set it and reel my big slow dumb butt to the transom. So, did DC find a QB for this game or is MSJ just that bad. You know what would be funny? If Franklin somehow manages to lose a conference game - albeit hardly unlikely - and DC wins all its conference games, the could end up sharing the ring. Hardy-har-har? Talk about falling into the pigsty and coming up smelling like cotton candy.

What say you, my expatriated American friend who currently resides on the Dark Continent? Is there life in this corpse or is it just the wriggling of the worms within? ;D

Jackets Backer

I've never seen a Mount team like that. I'm used to seeing a Mount team that punches the other team in the mouth over and over and over again. I think they're young, have trouble throwing the ball, couldn't protect their QB and couldn't stop DC's running game even when it was obvious DC was going to run it. I've never seen that out of a Mount St. Joseph over the last 7 or 8 years.

DC still needs some work in the passing game but they really spread out MSJ in the first half with some stuff I haven't seen this year, although I've only been to two games.

But when the Jackets wanted to run it, they shoved it right down the Mount's throat.

Franklin's not going to lose. DC will likely be favored in the rest of their games especially since Manchester lost to Bluffton today, so 7-3 is very realistic. Let's be honest, outside of Franklin the HCAC is not very good.
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."    - Winston Churchill

70_dc_alum

big win for DC...DC might end up with a pretty good year compared to the last few.  congrats to the guys playing.  even if the HCAC is bad it still feels pretty good to whoop on them.  Thank Goodness for Franklin who can actually hold their own in the first round of the playoffs to keep the rest of the conference looking better than they are. 

GRIZ_BACKER

Congrats to DC. Nice win for the Jackets.  Can't say I am sad to see MSJ lose two weeks in row either. My take on MSJ is not as much lack of talent but lack of playing as a team. 

HCAC Champions 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

cave2bens

Quote from: JacketsFan on October 09, 2010, 08:49:35 PM

What say you, my expatriated American friend who currently resides on the Dark Continent? Is there life in this corpse or is it just the wriggling of the worms within? ;D


Fighting harvester termites in the roses at present leads one to observe that surficial beauty of the bloom can either identify a healthy bush or hide troublesome, pre-emergent issues lurking in the roots and stem.  A good dose of water during a drought either strengthens or wilts, dependent on the ambient weather patterns and perhaps DC is at that crossroads (cue Robert Johnson...or FZ).  Call any vegetable - and the chances are good that the vegetable will respond to you.  Rutaba-a-a-, Rutaba-a-a-, Rutaba-a-a-ag, Rutaba-a-ag... Where can I go?"

Good win for the Jackets and sorely needed - also think they caught MSJ in a down year where their "scouts" may have been better prepped than their mainstays.  It was a strange day, and as the feeds were unavailable over here due to lack of advertised bandwidth, the ex-pat grew bored with watching live stats and retired by halftime.  Guess the emotion of Homecoming just choked our butts right up, eh?  "Where can I go to get my poodle clipped in Burbank?"   Questions, questions, questions..."



   
"Forever more as in days of yore Their deeds be noble and grand"

SaintsFAN

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on October 10, 2010, 07:01:26 AM
Congrats to DC. Nice win for the Jackets.  Can't say I am sad to see MSJ lose two weeks in row either. My take on MSJ is not as much lack of talent but lack of playing as a team. 



I blame Sayer.  He's coaching there now and they didn't suck last year... so its simple math that its all his fault (plus he can't get on here to defend himself).  In short, the guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

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Quote from: JacketsFan on October 09, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
Yeah, I swallowed that hook all the way to the gills, my man. All you had to do was set it and reel my big slow dumb butt to the transom. So, did DC find a QB for this game or is MSJ just that bad. You know what would be funny? If Franklin somehow manages to lose a conference game - albeit hardly unlikely - and DC wins all its conference games, the could end up sharing the ring. Hardy-har-har? Talk about falling into the pigsty and coming up smelling like cotton candy.

What say you, my expatriated American friend who currently resides on the Dark Continent? Is there life in this corpse or is it just the wriggling of the worms within? ;D


You don't want DC to share the title and go to the playoffs, my friend... they'll close the college down for what the #1 seed does to them.

(I have a take on the MSJ thing thats being typed right now)
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 10, 2010, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on October 10, 2010, 07:01:26 AM
Congrats to DC. Nice win for the Jackets.  Can't say I am sad to see MSJ lose two weeks in row either. My take on MSJ is not as much lack of talent but lack of playing as a team. 



I blame Sayer.  He's coaching there now and they didn't suck last year... so its simple math that its all his fault (plus he can't get on here to defend himself).  In short, the guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

Sayer can count on his friends having his back!!  ;D
HCAC Champions 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

SaintsFAN

MSJ 2010:  

(to make sure you know, I have NOT talked to Sayer and I HAVE gone to two MSJ games).

Heres my very much more educated opinoin (than anyone in Delhi)...

Mount St. Joe is talented, but NOT as talented as they have been in the past.  There are still a couple of VERY EXCELLENT players on defense, but the days of PJ Volker, Matt Lawless, Kyle Prosser, Alex Harbin, Ricky Story, Mike Lovell and Eric Schneider aren't here anymore.  They still have great athletes though.  The offense has like 2 or 3 starters back for this year and they are learning to play together as a unit... with a QB who wasn't in football last year.  Things worked out with Mustard last year (he was out the year before) but at a certain point you need to stop relying on flashes in the pan at QB and have someone who's worked offseasons with the team and has earned the respect of his teammates for being there.  While the offensive line has taken time to gel, the QB had some success against the weak early schedule, but as they got into the teeth of the schedule, pressure has freaked him out.  They have put the defense in bad spots and eventhough the defense is still good, they've not been able to come through with the offense sputtering.  When an offense sputters, the defense loses a bit of its edge.  Thats what has happened here.  Now we are talking like MSJ is a bad team, they are not... not in the conference.  They did get murdered by Franklin and beaten by Defiance but they can win out in conference play and go 7-3.   Especially since they only play one team ranked inside the top 100 in sacks.

Here's what they have left:

RHIT #124 1.75 sacks per game
Earlham #138 1.6 sacks per game
Hanover #229 .4 sacks per game
TMC #2 5.25 sacks per game

The Bridge Bowl could be a tossup because of the emotions involved... and because of how easily the game went TMC's way last year.  We'll see what happens.  
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Jackets Backer

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 10, 2010, 10:17:59 AM
MSJ 2010:  

(to make sure you know, I have NOT talked to Sayer and I HAVE gone to two MSJ games).

Heres my very much more educated opinoin (than anyone in Delhi)...

Mount St. Joe is talented, but NOT as talented as they have been in the past.  There are still a couple of VERY EXCELLENT players on defense, but the days of PJ Volker, Matt Lawless, Kyle Prosser, Alex Harbin, Ricky Story, Mike Lovell and Eric Schneider aren't here anymore.  They still have great athletes though.  The offense has like 2 or 3 starters back for this year and they are learning to play together as a unit... with a QB who wasn't in football last year.  Things worked out with Mustard last year (he was out the year before) but at a certain point you need to stop relying on flashes in the pan at QB and have someone who's worked offseasons with the team and has earned the respect of his teammates for being there.  While the offensive line has taken time to gel, the QB had some success against the weak early schedule, but as they got into the teeth of the schedule, pressure has freaked him out.  They have put the defense in bad spots and eventhough the defense is still good, they've not been able to come through with the offense sputtering.  When an offense sputters, the defense loses a bit of its edge.  Thats what has happened here.  Now we are talking like MSJ is a bad team, they are not... not in the conference.  They did get murdered by Franklin and beaten by Defiance but they can win out in conference play and go 7-3.   Especially since they only play one team ranked inside the top 100 in sacks.

That's my assessment too after seeing the game Saturday. The Mount is definitely not as talented as they've been in the past. I remember the days when they had that "edge" or "swagger" about them when they walked onto the field and the opposition just crumbled. I didn't see that mystique about the Mount on Saturday. They still have some assassins on D but they don't have 8 or 10 like they used to. Their bookends are really good and they have some studs up there but they're playing with a lot of youth. They used to be really nasty and played with an attitude.

"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give."    - Winston Churchill

cave2bens

Quote from: Jackets Backer on October 11, 2010, 07:29:50 AM
I remember the days when they had that "edge" or "swagger" about them...   They used to be really nasty and played with an attitude.

Me too.   ;)  Back in '71 when MSJ Nunnery for Wayward Women (along with the former Western College in Oxford), both were "high cotton," prime real estate for hormonally-charged residents from "Crawdadsville."  ;D
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70_dc_alum

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 10, 2010, 09:41:21 AM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on October 10, 2010, 07:01:26 AM
Congrats to DC. Nice win for the Jackets.  Can't say I am sad to see MSJ lose two weeks in row either. My take on MSJ is not as much lack of talent but lack of playing as a team. 



I blame Sayer.  He's coaching there now and they didn't suck last year... so its simple math that its all his fault (plus he can't get on here to defend himself).  In short, the guy couldn't coach his way out of a wet paper bag.

i forgot about that and explains why there are no good rants on here!.  what i can say is mark your post down, Sayer will get to you in due time when he is allowed to be public again!!

dc_has_been

It's great that Sayer is coaching at MSJ, but it has hurt not having a rep from MSJ on here.  It is interesting as we discussed before the lack of team support on here from all our HCAC foes.  At least we'll always have SaintsFan representing  ;D
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