FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Adam Sayer, December 24, 2006, 10:01:33 PM

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dc_has_been

Thunder-you bring up an interesting point.  Hanover will be a tough team to get past for anyone, but I agree with 70 that DC will go unscathed in the HCAC except for Franklin in my opinion.  Hanover still lacks a defense that can compare to DC's and they are even more one dimensional than DC when it comes to their offense. 
In regards to Franklin, again I agree with 70 that they should be placed on top but I do not think they will be as dominant in the HCAC as FCGrizz predicts. 
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70_dc_alum

Actually has been I do think they will pretty damn dominant but I think we will be able to give them a run for the money if we bring our a game.

Thunder I did not realize what  Hanover was returning they should be better than they have been over the last several years they have had some really tough years after their dominance over the early 2000's. 

dc_has_been

I should have noted that I stopped agreeing with you after them being placed at the top and inserted it as my own opinion that Franklin will not be as dominant as predicted by the Franklin alum.  I think that DC and possibly HC will not be blown out this year because of their returning contributors. 
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GRIZ_BACKER

I agree with DC  (Defiance and Hanover should close the gap).  Not that FC won't be as good but those teams will just be better.  I don't see MSJ any better than fourth this season. I am looking forward to more and better competition and am glad to see some teams on the rise.  Blowouts aren't that fun to watch.
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FCGrizzliesGrad

Tough road games for both Defiance and Hanover...
Defiance plays @ Franklin, @ MSJ, @ Rose
Hanover plays @ Defiance, @ Rose, @ MSJ

I think there should be a good 4 team battle for 2nd, and the possibility that even if someone upsets Franklin that the Griz could still win the conference because everyone else ends up with 2 or 3 losses. Of course an injury here and there and everything goes out the window. Oh the fun of preseason guessing  ;)

I'd love to see the teams get better to the point where losing just one conference game by a few points doesn't automatically mean no postseason. Seems like we're always just the little conference that's an afterthought (but with all the excellent teams in the region I guess it's hard to make a lot of noise)
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Not to mention we travel to Thomas More the week before Defiance.  Hanover faces a good Centre team this weekend so that will indicate whether we're ready to make some noise in the conference or not.  Trying to fill the offensive void left by Passafiume is going to be a tall order though.  I do think our defense will be very good and keep us in games.

GRIZ_BACKER

I went through each HCAC team's non conference schedule and for the most part nobody is taking the easy way out.  (in case anybody wondered)

HC has Thomas More and Centre (as panther fan pointed out),
MSJ takes on Thomas More at season's end,
FC has WI - Whitewater and a DIV 1 FCS school (Valparaiso),
DC plays Adrian,
MC and BC have scheduled Trine.
Anderson has Depauw.
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AnotherTrineDad

Just wanted to drop in a say their were some shining starts for MC in lastnight's game.  Nelson is quick and agile, the Kennedy brothers are hard hitting and smart players.  Good boys too. 

Neither team played to their potential.

ThunderHead

For those Bluffton fans out there, I see that most people don't think Bluffton will compete this year, however on their web site they say they have around 24 seniors coming back, and it's a senior lead 2-deep.

So is this class just not very good, or are they just being over looked based on years of below par football? Maybe some longtime time HCAC fans can fill me in.
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Quote from: ThunderHead on September 02, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
For those Bluffton fans out there, I see that most people don't think Bluffton will compete this year, however on their web site they say they have around 24 seniors coming back, and it's a senior lead 2-deep.

So is this class just not very good, or are they just being over looked based on years of below par football? Maybe some longtime time HCAC fans can fill me in.

10 straight years of .500 or below tends to dampen enthusiasm and expectations.  Prior to last year the Beavers had a three year run of 2-28 hopefully last season's 4-6 record means the Beavers are beginning to turn the corner.

SaintsFAN

Quote from: ThunderHead on September 02, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
For those Bluffton fans out there, I see that most people don't think Bluffton will compete this year, however on their web site they say they have around 24 seniors coming back, and it's a senior lead 2-deep.

So is this class just not very good, or are they just being over looked based on years of below par football? Maybe some longtime time HCAC fans can fill me in.

They are just a bunch of "Beavers"... but seriously, I think its a little bit of both.  But I'm not familiar with Bluffton football... or Defiance or any of the others since they decided to drop Thomas More from the schedule.  MSJ, Hanover and Franklin are the only teams who would/do play TMC.
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ThunderHead

Well if it's any encouragement to the Bluffton fans, Trine (formerly Tri-States) was also not very good leading up the last few years off incredible success.

Maybe this senior lead class will help turn the tables. Best of luck on your visit to Angola next Saturday. :)
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dc_has_been

Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 02, 2011, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ThunderHead on September 02, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
For those Bluffton fans out there, I see that most people don't think Bluffton will compete this year, however on their web site they say they have around 24 seniors coming back, and it's a senior lead 2-deep.

So is this class just not very good, or are they just being over looked based on years of below par football? Maybe some longtime time HCAC fans can fill me in.

They are just a bunch of "Beavers"... but seriously, I think its a little bit of both.  But I'm not familiar with Bluffton football... or Defiance or any of the others since they decided to drop Thomas More from the schedule.  MSJ, Hanover and Franklin are the only teams who would/do play TMC.
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SaintsFAN

Quote from: dc_has_been on September 02, 2011, 03:58:21 PM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on September 02, 2011, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: ThunderHead on September 02, 2011, 12:10:26 PM
For those Bluffton fans out there, I see that most people don't think Bluffton will compete this year, however on their web site they say they have around 24 seniors coming back, and it's a senior lead 2-deep.

So is this class just not very good, or are they just being over looked based on years of below par football? Maybe some longtime time HCAC fans can fill me in.

They are just a bunch of "Beavers"... but seriously, I think its a little bit of both.  But I'm not familiar with Bluffton football... or Defiance or any of the others since they decided to drop Thomas More from the schedule.  MSJ, Hanover and Franklin are the only teams who would/do play TMC.
Kev you kill me ;D  +1

I'm here for the party, sir!!!  Had to get in a dig on the crybabies again, too!  How is the little one, Plonk?
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Tuned in for some late night entertainment after a warm day in Kimberley with the Griquas Currie Cup match.

Sure would be nice if the temperature would drop and the Jackets' would rise - 35 plays and 20 total yards in the first half is pretty anemic, even in 93 degree temperatures.  Somehow, Musky is managing... 14-0 at half.    :P

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