FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[cave2bens]

Have to say that I am so frustrated with DC's season that I just don't seem to care .  I really thought they were going to have a strong showing this season with what they had returning.  It is time for Taylor to really start to mix things up....NOW!  As FCGrizzliesGrad pointed out their next two games are going to be some stiff competition.  Let's hope coach gets creative and lets lose.

Taking a page from the great orator, JacketsFan (Hey Joe, what do you have to contribute?), perhaps recollection that RT may be the winningest coach (in numbers, not percentage - not even freakin' close!) but he has also LOST more games than any other in DC history.  Perhaps a few of those 5K bricks should be used for some serious head-knocking from the top down?  Has_Been - I really hope that you meant lets "loose" rather than "let's" lose.  Even SoCal can't have you that much depressed can it?  LOL 

[70_dc_alum]

guys check out the picture on the Around the Nation Column --- they put some picture of some poor QB from Thomas More on there.. http://www.d3football.com/columns/around-the-nation/2011/dear-players-heed-our-advice

OK, so it looks like it hurt.  Question is, did you win the game?

no.. we lost 35-7.  it was bad.

But the bright side is you dont remember the game!  the fact that Pat and company keeps using this picture still cracks me up!

[70_dc_alum]

Wow - 34 to 5, Hanover at Half?  DC Homecoming crowd must have already headed for the bar!

The crowd did thin out a little, but there were still a good number in the stands.  All the festivities outside the stadium were empthy by the time I left.

Good win for Hanover.  Need to figure out how to put two halves together in the same game one of these days, but the first half was impressive for the Panthers.

Defense was stellar!  Defiance was able to complete some long passes when they were in third and long, but then couldn't sustain the momentum.  Great job D!

It was Ugly, i was in the parking lot at halftime through the end of the game drinking no sense in watching the second half.  had to get primed for heading to coach P's for the 10 yr reunion of the 2001 championship.

[70_dc_alum]

Have to say that I am so frustrated with DC's season that I just don't seem to care .  I really thought they were going to have a strong showing this season with what they had returning.  It is time for Taylor to really start to mix things up....NOW!  As FCGrizzliesGrad pointed out their next two games are going to be some stiff competition.  Let's hope coach gets creative and lets lose.

The running back in the 4th quarter (#20?) was exciting to watch.  Wondering why he wasn't involved earlier.  Don't know that he could sustaing 25 carries up the gut, but when he got outside, he was lightening.  Could open things up if the D has to watch for him getting outside and then the QB running or passing.

I sensed the players are a little frustrated.  Two personal fouls in the second half (on the opening kickoff and then the helmet ripping off) showed a momentary lack of discipline.  Need to make Franklin earn every inch this week.

Best of luck to the Yellow Jackets the rest of the way!

BTW - Nice stadium.  Looks relatively new.  The field surface was interesting, and I would assume a turf field is somewhere in the future plans.

Has_been Becuase the Line does not block well they did change things up and went to 5 wide shotgun most of the game.  bad thing is drew is a beast running the ball when he gets some blocks and this does take his pound it style out of the game.

the Stadium was built in 93/94.  they take good care of it, and Football and Track are the only 2 things that use it so while its grass it typically is in very good shape in October and November.  they put the soccer out past the baseball field and 2 Football practice fields...i think they have a couple of bleachers out there.  its got a nice locker room (could use a few updates) and the training room and the 2nd floor is all meeting rooms projectors and the indoor batting cage for baseball

[dc_has_been]

Have to say that I am so frustrated with DC's season that I just don't seem to care .  I really thought they were going to have a strong showing this season with what they had returning.  It is time for Taylor to really start to mix things up....NOW!  As FCGrizzliesGrad pointed out their next two games are going to be some stiff competition.  Let's hope coach gets creative and lets lose.

Taking a page from the great orator, JacketsFan (Hey Joe, what do you have to contribute?), perhaps recollection that RT may be the winningest coach (in numbers, not percentage - not even freakin' close!) but he has also LOST more games than any other in DC history.  Perhaps a few of those 5K bricks should be used for some serious head-knocking from the top down?  Has_Been - I really hope that you meant lets "loose" rather than "let's" lose.  Even SoCal can't have you that much depressed can it?  LOL 

Whoops, that was a subconscious slip .   Yes, he needs to go at it with reckless abandonment!  Trick plays (left tackle pass), blitz every freaking down, deep throws down field, dropping dl in to coverage whatever. 
Big Lou-I hope that all of you guys had a great time!  I really hope that I'll get to make it back for a game sometime.  Unfortunately, most of my Midwest visits occur during the winter holidays.  For some reason the Mrs.'s who is born in raised in So Cal feels it is necessary to take the kids to cold a*$ Michigan for three weeks in December. 

[dc_has_been]

Have to say that I am so frustrated with DC's season that I just don't seem to care .  I really thought they were going to have a strong showing this season with what they had returning.  It is time for Taylor to really start to mix things up....NOW!  As FCGrizzliesGrad pointed out their next two games are going to be some stiff competition.  Let's hope coach gets creative and lets lose.

The running back in the 4th quarter (#20?) was exciting to watch.  Wondering why he wasn't involved earlier.  Don't know that he could sustaing 25 carries up the gut, but when he got outside, he was lightening.  Could open things up if the D has to watch for him getting outside and then the QB running or passing.

I sensed the players are a little frustrated.  Two personal fouls in the second half (on the opening kickoff and then the helmet ripping off) showed a momentary lack of discipline.  Need to make Franklin earn every inch this week.

Best of luck to the Yellow Jackets the rest of the way!

BTW - Nice stadium.  Looks relatively new.  The field surface was interesting, and I would assume a turf field is somewhere in the future plans.

Has_been Becuase the Line does not block well they did change things up and went to 5 wide shotgun most of the game.  bad thing is drew is a beast running the ball when he gets some blocks and this does take his pound it style out of the game.

the Stadium was built in 93/94.  they take good care of it, and Football and Track are the only 2 things that use it so while its grass it typically is in very good shape in October and November.  they put the soccer out past the baseball field and 2 Football practice fields...i think they have a couple of bleachers out there.  its got a nice locker room (could use a few updates) and the training room and the 2nd floor is all meeting rooms projectors and the indoor batting cage for baseball

There is also a very nice storage room on the second floor to get 1 on 1 tutoring during study table

[SaintsFAN]

That is surprising re: Defiance.  Yes, cave2, they wanted to go "drown out their sorrows/disappointments" - ouch.  But...I/we (at Hope) know what an 0-3 start feels like the past 6 years until last weekend (although I can only recall in my own playing days there ever going only 0-2 one year).  It must just be that "down cycle" year(s) for Defiance as some programs go through once in awhile (too bad it can't be Mount Union or Whitewater so as to give the rest of us a chance! ).

BTW, where is Sayer?  He hasn't posted for awhile it appears.

Adam is coaching at MSJ currently and thus not allowed on the boards --- I can tell you that I know he reads still.  Unlike his playing days, he won't post on here until after the season.  I'm glad he'll be able to get on here right after the Bridge Bowl

I saw what you said on the OAC page.. I have a picture that a parent took of the aftermath when you, Teresa our trainer and our student trainers were standing around trying to "wake me up" after they had sat me up.  I'll try to get that to you via email somehow.  Its comical to me, but I was NOT happy the following Monday when they told me I was done for the year.. my parents apparently were given a "heads up" after the trip to the hospital and knew it wasn't going to be easy to convince me to sit down -- they flew in my Aunt from CA, who is a neurology nurse to help talk sense into me.  I'm glad they were proactive though... even if I didn't understand it at the time.  That was my 2nd major concussion (grade 3) of the season.

[SaintsFAN]

Have to say that I am so frustrated with DC's season that I just don't seem to care .  I really thought they were going to have a strong showing this season with what they had returning.  It is time for Taylor to really start to mix things up....NOW!  As FCGrizzliesGrad pointed out their next two games are going to be some stiff competition.  Let's hope coach gets creative and lets lose.

The running back in the 4th quarter (#20?) was exciting to watch.  Wondering why he wasn't involved earlier.  Don't know that he could sustaing 25 carries up the gut, but when he got outside, he was lightening.  Could open things up if the D has to watch for him getting outside and then the QB running or passing.

I sensed the players are a little frustrated.  Two personal fouls in the second half (on the opening kickoff and then the helmet ripping off) showed a momentary lack of discipline.  Need to make Franklin earn every inch this week.

Best of luck to the Yellow Jackets the rest of the way!

BTW - Nice stadium.  Looks relatively new.  The field surface was interesting, and I would assume a turf field is somewhere in the future plans.

Has_been Becuase the Line does not block well they did change things up and went to 5 wide shotgun most of the game.  bad thing is drew is a beast running the ball when he gets some blocks and this does take his pound it style out of the game.

the Stadium was built in 93/94.  they take good care of it, and Football and Track are the only 2 things that use it so while its grass it typically is in very good shape in October and November.  they put the soccer out past the baseball field and 2 Football practice fields...i think they have a couple of bleachers out there.  its got a nice locker room (could use a few updates) and the training room and the 2nd floor is all meeting rooms projectors and the indoor batting cage for baseball

we had a couple battles on that field in 1997 and 1999.. Still remember our 1998 tilt in Bellevue, though... don't know how you guys escaped there with the win... all we had to do was get a LS to our punter and the game was over... it wasn't to be.

[formerd3db]

SaintsFAN:

Good to hear from you.  Wow, you have a photo of the "aftermath" of that play, which goes along with the one of the actual hit.  Yes, I would like to have a copy of that for my scrap book too, so if you get the chance to email one to me, I'd appreciate it. 

I know what you mean about the disappointment in having been done for the season at that point.  While I think that most everyone has taken concussions seriously in the past, certainly with more awareness now at the level of the NCAA and pros (which, of course, trickles down to high school and youth leagues), it is getting even more strict with regards to return to play decisions and that is fine.  We all love the sport and the competitiveness, yet in the long term, it is just not worth it to take chances. 

Anyway, take care and enjoy whatever next few games you get a chance to attend.  BTW, thanks for the info re: Sayer.  One of our other friends Cave2 had informed me also that Sayer was coaching so not able to be on the boards - I had forgotten he had taken the coaching position at his MSJ this year.  A great experience and opportunity for him.  Talk to you later.

[70_dc_alum]

SaintsFan while we escaped with a W in 98, you escaped in 96 and 97...and 93 where all we had to do is stop celebrating the vicotry after the blocked FG!!!

[dc_has_been]

In regards to the field at DC, I still like the fact that we still have natural grass.  I do not know if they will make the switch anytime soon, but I hope they don't rush it after spending all the money on the tennis courts and field house. 
By the way big Lou, how did the building of the field house look?

[Thunder44]

In regards to the field at DC, I still like the fact that we still have natural grass.  I do not know if they will make the switch anytime soon, but I hope they don't rush it after spending all the money on the tennis courts and field house. 
By the way big Lou, how did the building of the field house look?

No problems with the natural grass, but we were noticiing from the visitor side that at the "cannon end" of the field, there is a trench on the visitor side hash.  It is pronounced, and noticeable from the stands.  It looks as though there may have been a recess between the hash marks from 20 to 20 at some point, and then when it was filled in, it wasn't feathered.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Grass is fine as long as it's taken care of, but it costs money to maintain and if it gets torn up it can cause problems.
Franklin had grass in 2008 and it got torn up in the rainy season finale vs Hanover... then as a 5 seed we went on the road in the playoffs beating a 4 and 1 seed and ended up having to host the 7 seed... but the field was deemed unworthy for tournament use so it had to be played at the local high school that had recently opened and had a turf field. Franklin installed a turf field a year later

[70_dc_alum]

In regards to the field at DC, I still like the fact that we still have natural grass.  I do not know if they will make the switch anytime soon, but I hope they don't rush it after spending all the money on the tennis courts and field house. 
By the way big Lou, how did the building of the field house look?

No problems with the natural grass, but we were noticiing from the visitor side that at the "cannon end" of the field, there is a trench on the visitor side hash.  It is pronounced, and noticeable from the stands.  It looks as though there may have been a recess between the hash marks from 20 to 20 at some point, and then when it was filled in, it wasn't feathered.

there is something with the grade of the crown at that end when you get away from the peak where it looks uneven from the stands because it's more dip than the rest but you can not tell on the field. Just causes you to notice from far away. been that way since it opened rare that it's noticed

[SaintsFAN]

SaintsFan while we escaped with a W in 98, you escaped in 96 and 97...and 93 where all we had to do is stop celebrating the vicotry after the blocked FG!!!

That 93 game was fate... Pretty funny they mention the 1998 game in the story about the 93 game in that book... You guys learned your lesson..

lots of escaping!!!  Well, except for 1995 and 1999... but three years of escapes isn't bad.  We were good rivals, I thought.. until very recently Defiance was the only AMC Team to have beaten TMC.  Then that coach of yours decided you couldn't compete with TMC anymore.... not very masculine.. if you ask me, your program has been in a slide since that day