FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[KYGrizzly]

Nice to see Jonny West put together a nice game without many mistakes this week for Franklin. As Backer said, running game is still a trouble spot.

Congrats to Defiance for finally getting in the win column. Now everyone except for Earlham has a win this season (and honestly I don't see them getting one with the schedule they have left)

The way I see things, there's three teams with any hope of winning the conference.
Franklin obviously just needs to win out and the only game they should have a challenge is @ Hanover to finish.
Hanover needs to win out including their final 2 @ MSJ and vs Franklin to be in a tie with FC (and have the tiebreaker).
Rose needs to win out including this week vs MSJ and have Hanover beat Franklin to get in a 3 way tie (and I have no idea how the tiebreaker would go).

Here is the HCAC Tie-Breaker scenario:

1. Which team won in their head to head competition?

2. How the tied teams fared against next team in conference standings.  Continue down in the conference standings until the tie is broken.

3. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you defeated.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

4. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you lost to.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

5. Total winning percentage by non-conference opponents.

6. The team which has not gone to the NCAA Football Playoffs for the longest period of time (Big 10 Rose Bowl Rule).

7. Rankings from the AFCA Division III National Poll.

8. Blind Draw.  One lot shall be marked AQ and all others will be blank.  The draw will be conducted by the conference Commissioner and SID at the Heartland Conference Office.  The draw will be made in alphabetical order of the tied schools.  A coach or representative from each school involved may attend the drawing

[formerd3db]

After today's biblical based post related to libations on a dry campus "smite" is a good term for receiving negative karma. Lol 

You were the one that "opened that door" by bringing up the "religious" aspect (reference to our Good Lord) and the miscreant breaking of rules i.e. bringing your libations and putting them in a cup if there are rules prohibiting it.  That was my point. LOL (lots of love) back to you.

[dc_has_been]

SaintsFan, I can only love to hate your comments against my beloved school

I wanted to add that we need to get back to talking about football instead of drinking and god. 

[formerd3db]

dc_has_been:

I agree.  Yet, talk about tailgaiting, campus activites, academic courses, etc., etc., is part of the football college scene and when some people bring such topics up, it is appropriate to discuss those (and respond ), to a degree, of course.  Such discussions, can run their course, and, again, I agree with you, this one (this time) has.   So back to football, it is.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Agreed Let's chat about the Grizzlies?

[formerd3db]

Agreed Let's chat about the Grizzlies?

So GRIZ_BACKER; do you see your Franklin team as having more than a good chance at "running the table" for the rest of the season?  IMO, except for that last game at Hanover, which I think Franklin can win, I think FC can win the title if they don't get lax and slip up either against Hanover or before i.e. if they don't fall into taking those other teams lightly.  On paper, it appears to be more than a decent chance, but as we all know, anything can happen each Saturday and you have to take and play one game at a time.  Looking ahead more than one game can be (usually is) lethal.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Unless FC falls apart running the table is more than likely.  However getting the run game in order is the biggest issue now.  FC still has a shot at a home playoff game if the cards fall right. FC needs bash to lose and Wheaton to beat NC.  Lot of young guys this year as well.

[formerd3db]

Well, we'll see what happens.  I know what you mean about the run game.  Hope needed to get that going this year and after a poor first game start, our running game has been quite good in recent games.  Aside from those aspects you mentioned, another key is staying healthy.  No doubt (although this obviously applies to both sides of the line i.e. both offense and defense), for the offensive guys, particularly the linemen, if any of them sustain injury, that could immediately derail the run game (even though we have good running backs).  At least I see that as being a factor for us if that should occur (hopefully, not for you or us; no pun intended. ) Overall, I think your FC has a better chance at winning your league title than we do ours, however, I hope we do.  It will take a tough, monumental effort by our team, yet, they are not incapable of doing it if they stay focused (and perhaps with a little luck too, please?!! ).

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Nice to see Jonny West put together a nice game without many mistakes this week for Franklin. As Backer said, running game is still a trouble spot.

Congrats to Defiance for finally getting in the win column. Now everyone except for Earlham has a win this season (and honestly I don't see them getting one with the schedule they have left)

The way I see things, there's three teams with any hope of winning the conference.
Franklin obviously just needs to win out and the only game they should have a challenge is @ Hanover to finish.
Hanover needs to win out including their final 2 @ MSJ and vs Franklin to be in a tie with FC (and have the tiebreaker).
Rose needs to win out including this week vs MSJ and have Hanover beat Franklin to get in a 3 way tie (and I have no idea how the tiebreaker would go).

Here is the HCAC Tie-Breaker scenario:

1. Which team won in their head to head competition?

2. How the tied teams fared against next team in conference standings.  Continue down in the conference standings until the tie is broken.

3. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you defeated.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

4. Number of conference wins by the conference opponents you lost to.  Team whose opponents had the highest number of wins breaks the tie.

5. Total winning percentage by non-conference opponents.

6. The team which has not gone to the NCAA Football Playoffs for the longest period of time (Big 10 Rose Bowl Rule).

7. Rankings from the AFCA Division III National Poll.

8. Blind Draw.  One lot shall be marked AQ and all others will be blank.  The draw will be conducted by the conference Commissioner and SID at the Heartland Conference Office.  The draw will be made in alphabetical order of the tied schools.  A coach or representative from each school involved may attend the drawing

So if it's a 3 way tie then we have to go down to tiebreaker #5 and currently Rose's non conference opponents are 4-6... Hanover's are 9-0... Franklin's are 5-5 (if you include non D3 Valpo who is 0-5... do we know if we include them [I obviously hope the answer is we don't but I don't think that's true])
Which means unless those nonconference teams suddenly change their records around, Hanover or Franklin would be in if they win out and Rose has almost no chance of getting in.

[Thunder44]

So if it's a 3 way tie then we have to go down to tiebreaker #5 and currently Rose's non conference opponents are 4-6... Hanover's are 9-0... Franklin's are 5-5 (if you include non D3 Valpo who is 0-5... do we know if we include them [I obviously hope the answer is we don't but I don't think that's true])
Which means unless those nonconference teams suddenly change their records around, Hanover or Franklin would be in if they win out and Rose has almost no chance of getting in.

MSJ has the chance to play spoiler twice.  This week at Rose, and November 5th at home vs. Hanover.  I'm sure the loss to Defiance at home this weekend was disappointing, but the chance to end someone else's title hopes has to be a motivator.

[altor]

Rob Taylor resigns; Nate Jensen new interim head coach
http://www.defianceathletics.com/football/news/67/1715/

[SaintsFAN]

Agreed Let's chat about the Grizzlies?

who's that??  I would say talk to me after you beat Defiance, but I think Sister's of the Poor has even kicked them in the mouth this year !!  (good enough, has_been?)

Big shoes to fill after piling up 38 victories in 9 seasons..  I'd say they are neatly stacked.

[JacketsFan]

Piled up. Great phrase. His record is like a pile up on the freeway. In other words, a big wreck. Better that The Turk arriveth late than never.

'Bout dang time.

To lift a line from Poe: "Quoth the raven, 'Nevermore.'"

Computer down. Doing this from my iPhone. I'll join y'all on the boards tomorrow or Thursday when my pc is fixed. I hate this hunt and peck crap on my iPhone. Dang arthritic, bratwurst-sized fingers.

[formerd3db]

I assumed (speculated to myself) that Taylor most likely might have resigned anyway at the conclusion of this season, based on how it was going and induding recent years.  However, I am somewhat surprised he chose now to step down.  there is no indication or info presented publically to suggest that he was either asked to resign or if it was simply his own decision to do so (could be either way I suspect).  I'm not sure what effect a change will do right now.  Obviously, nothing against the interim coach Jensen at all, as I'm sure he is a good coach.  For sure, there will be some who will say that it is possible a change right now will provide that boost of attitude and energy needed to salvage something from this season.  Yet, while that can occur and in theory is a legit idea, it is also just as likely not to occur.  Why not just finish out the season and then resign immediately after its conclusion?  I think that is just as legit, yet, at the same time, everyone has to make their own decisions in such situations.  What are your own opinions on this everyone?   

[cave2bens]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PFCgAhZEO8&feature=related

Honestly believed "change" would have happened sooner than it did, but also thought JacketsFan would be more vociferous and creative with the "pile" redundancy as well.  Your python boots too tight, oh purveyor of journalistic prose?   

"I told them right then, Fido said, It's easy to see the crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe."