FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

Very interesting to me that there may be four teams with a 5-3 mark in conference action while Franklin sits alone at the top if they win Saturday.  Looks like HCAC did a great job beating on eachother this season.

I have to say that I'm pulling for Franklin since I would like to see them get a decent seed for the first round.  I would hate for them to have to face a one seed to start the playoffs.  I do wonder how they would do against Whitewater again?

Even if they lost this Saturday, Franklin would not face a 1-seed (though probably a 2 or 3).  Assuming they win, most bracket speculation I've seen would have them facing IWU in round one, though at which campus is kind of a toss-up

I would guess Wabash or North Central would be the 2 or 3 if that were to happen.  Hopefully it does not and Franklin can lock a home game for their first opponent.

I (and others) figure Franklin and IWU (assuming both win Saturday) to be 4 and 5, in whichever order.  The eventual seeding will be a test of Pat's speculation that once the national committee gets to seeding, 'regional' gets mostly tossed.  Franklin is undefeated in region (UWW doesn't 'count'); on the other hand, both would be one-loss teams overall and IWU has a vastly better SOS (currently 19th vs. 217th).  My guess is that Franklin will be above IWU in the final regional rankings that we see, but I would not be surprised if IWU hosted the game.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

I would hate for them to have to face a one seed to start the playoffs.  I do wonder how they would do against Whitewater again?

There's no way Grizzlies will be an 8 seed because Albion will be there for sure. But looking at a 4 or 5 would put them against the 1 in the 2nd round. If Delaware Valley loses this week then Mount Union will slide over to be #1 in the east and UWW #1 to the north... and it still might happen even if DelVal wins. I think the game would be closer than the 45-0 shellacking, but probably still not particularly close.

[SaintsFAN]

Win or lose, I just want to see Hanover play to their potential so it's a good game.

I don't... they can't help us anymore... GEAUX GRIZ !!!  Monkey-stomp!

Let's see.  Last weekend, you were pulling for Hanover, as it would help Thomas More, and we lost, as did the Saints (at home, no less!).

So, this week, you are rooting for the Griz for no other reason than a Hanover win doesn't do anything for the Saints.  Wouldn't it be ironic if both Hanover and MSJ win?

touche... BUT, you have to remember despite my Uncle being in the Hanover Hall of Fame, I was "raised" (at TMC) to dislike Hanover.  I remember in 1995, we needed Franklin to win the Bell game, but it wasn't to be.  We were #5 in the North at 10-0 and left at home for the tourney (when that TMC team would've done some real damage with 10+ D1 transfers as starters). 

I hope for a great game between Hanover and Franklin, to help Franklin further prepare for the tourney and I hope for a repeat of the Bridge Bowl the last time it was played at MSJ and both squads were undefeated.

[Thunder44]

Win or lose, I just want to see Hanover play to their potential so it's a good game.

I don't... they can't help us anymore... GEAUX GRIZ !!!  Monkey-stomp!

Let's see.  Last weekend, you were pulling for Hanover, as it would help Thomas More, and we lost, as did the Saints (at home, no less!).

So, this week, you are rooting for the Griz for no other reason than a Hanover win doesn't do anything for the Saints.  Wouldn't it be ironic if both Hanover and MSJ win?

touche... BUT, you have to remember despite my Uncle being in the Hanover Hall of Fame, I was "raised" (at TMC) to dislike Hanover.  I remember in 1995, we needed Franklin to win the Bell game, but it wasn't to be.  We were #5 in the North at 10-0 and left at home for the tourney (when that TMC team would've done some real damage with 10+ D1 transfers as starters). 

I hope for a great game between Hanover and Franklin, to help Franklin further prepare for the tourney and I hope for a repeat of the Bridge Bowl the last time it was played at MSJ and both squads were undefeated.

Are you going soft?  I seem to recall a post something like "I'm going to see Thomas More hammer those pu$$ies from Hanover this weekend...", yet now you are hoping for a great game?? What gives?

On a related note, I hope the big win for MSJ energizes them this week such that the Bridge Bowl is a good game.  With the way both teams have been playing, it wasn't shaping up to be much, however with last week's performance (for both teams), things may have changed. Having seen both teams, I believe TM will win comfortably, but you never know.

[panthersfan]

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Are you going soft?  I seem to recall a post something like "I'm going to see Thomas More hammer those pu$$ies from Hanover this weekend...", yet now you are hoping for a great game?? What gives?
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Considering TMC may have have put themselves on the teetering edge of a fun-filled first round trip to Belton, TX already...  Would be careful about wishing for a Hanover "monkey stomping" right before the committee decides on seedings.  Unless you're Franklin of course...

[cave2bens]

Considering TMC may have have put themselves on the teetering edge of a fun-filled first round trip to Belton, TX already...  Would be careful about wishing for a Hanover "monkey stomping" right before the committee decides on seedings.

SaintsFan's just lookin' forward to some real 'cue before a night on 6th Street (or Gingerman for real beer drinkers) rather than floundering in tomatoey glob at Montgomery's followed by a suds soaked (In Munchen steht ein Hofbrauhaus - eins, zwei, g'suffa) debauch in scenic Newport. 

"No ropers, no service" in Tejas may pose a challenging dilemma for a Crestview favorite son, though. 

[panthersfan]

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SaintsFan's just lookin' forward to some real 'cue before a night on 6th Street (or Gingerman for real beer drinkers)
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Now you're talking...  Suddenly I feel the need for some hefeweizen

[dc_has_been]

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SaintsFan's just lookin' forward to some real 'cue before a night on 6th Street (or Gingerman for real beer drinkers)
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Now you're talking...  Suddenly I feel the need for some hefeweizen

Couldn't agree more!

[SaintsFAN]

Considering TMC may have have put themselves on the teetering edge of a fun-filled first round trip to Belton, TX already...  Would be careful about wishing for a Hanover "monkey stomping" right before the committee decides on seedings.

SaintsFan's just lookin' forward to some real 'cue before a night on 6th Street (or Gingerman for real beer drinkers) rather than floundering in tomatoey glob at Montgomery's followed by a suds soaked (In Munchen steht ein Hofbrauhaus - eins, zwei, g'suffa) debauch in scenic Newport. 

"No ropers, no service" in Tejas may pose a challenging dilemma for a Crestview favorite son, though. 

+K

[SaintsFAN]

Win or lose, I just want to see Hanover play to their potential so it's a good game.

I don't... they can't help us anymore... GEAUX GRIZ !!!  Monkey-stomp!

Let's see.  Last weekend, you were pulling for Hanover, as it would help Thomas More, and we lost, as did the Saints (at home, no less!).

So, this week, you are rooting for the Griz for no other reason than a Hanover win doesn't do anything for the Saints.  Wouldn't it be ironic if both Hanover and MSJ win?

touche... BUT, you have to remember despite my Uncle being in the Hanover Hall of Fame, I was "raised" (at TMC) to dislike Hanover.  I remember in 1995, we needed Franklin to win the Bell game, but it wasn't to be.  We were #5 in the North at 10-0 and left at home for the tourney (when that TMC team would've done some real damage with 10+ D1 transfers as starters). 

I hope for a great game between Hanover and Franklin, to help Franklin further prepare for the tourney and I hope for a repeat of the Bridge Bowl the last time it was played at MSJ and both squads were undefeated.

Are you going soft?  I seem to recall a post something like "I'm going to see Thomas More hammer those pu$$ies from Hanover this weekend...", yet now you are hoping for a great game?? What gives?

On a related note, I hope the big win for MSJ energizes them this week such that the Bridge Bowl is a good game.  With the way both teams have been playing, it wasn't shaping up to be much, however with last week's performance (for both teams), things may have changed. Having seen both teams, I believe TM will win comfortably, but you never know.

touche --- I just may be going soft.  Its the girlfriend influence on me, perhaps.  She doesn't understand the competitive nature I have and still have about this D3 Football "stuff".

Bridge Bowl --- honestly think it will go one of two ways. 
1.  MSJ runs the ball right at TMC with their big offensive line and limits the Thomas More offensive possessions because they hold onto the ball.  Will result in a close game.  Thomas More only averages around 230 lbs on the defensive front.  They are built for speed.  If MSJ has to throw the ball alot, the Saints secondary will cause some problems as Autenreib is a ball hawk and they have some size/athleticism at corner... also this will turn the dogs loose up front.  If there are obvious passing situations, TMC will get after the QB. 
2.  Thomas More forces a couple turnovers early (MSJ has been a little turnover prone this year) and the offense gets off to a fast start and forces MSJ to play from behind.  This would play into TMC's hands for more than the obvious reasons (scoreboard). 

*The key to this game is how well MSJ runs the ball and if they stay committed to it.  Thomas More will get their big plays and the question is will the MSJ ground game wear out TMC.  Another wildcard is the Saints return game (as some Hanover fans can surely attest to).. its potentially very explosive with Owens and Savoy back there.  MSJ would be best served to not kick to Owens, but they can't give up field position in doing so (like the Hanover opening kickoff). 

I still think Thomas More wins, but it should be closer than the previous 3 years.  Probably 30-17.   

[dc_has_been]

Win or lose, I just want to see Hanover play to their potential so it's a good game.

I don't... they can't help us anymore... GEAUX GRIZ !!!  Monkey-stomp!

Let's see.  Last weekend, you were pulling for Hanover, as it would help Thomas More, and we lost, as did the Saints (at home, no less!).

So, this week, you are rooting for the Griz for no other reason than a Hanover win doesn't do anything for the Saints.  Wouldn't it be ironic if both Hanover and MSJ win?

touche... BUT, you have to remember despite my Uncle being in the Hanover Hall of Fame, I was "raised" (at TMC) to dislike Hanover.  I remember in 1995, we needed Franklin to win the Bell game, but it wasn't to be.  We were #5 in the North at 10-0 and left at home for the tourney (when that TMC team would've done some real damage with 10+ D1 transfers as starters). 

I hope for a great game between Hanover and Franklin, to help Franklin further prepare for the tourney and I hope for a repeat of the Bridge Bowl the last time it was played at MSJ and both squads were undefeated.

Are you going soft?  I seem to recall a post something like "I'm going to see Thomas More hammer those pu$$ies from Hanover this weekend...", yet now you are hoping for a great game?? What gives?

On a related note, I hope the big win for MSJ energizes them this week such that the Bridge Bowl is a good game.  With the way both teams have been playing, it wasn't shaping up to be much, however with last week's performance (for both teams), things may have changed. Having seen both teams, I believe TM will win comfortably, but you never know.

touche --- I just may be going soft.  Its the girlfriend influence on me, perhaps.  She doesn't understand the competitive nature I have and still have about this D3 Football "stuff".

Bridge Bowl --- honestly think it will go one of two ways. 
1.  MSJ runs the ball right at TMC with their big offensive line and limits the Thomas More offensive possessions because they hold onto the ball.  Will result in a close game.  Thomas More only averages around 230 lbs on the defensive front.  They are built for speed.  If MSJ has to throw the ball alot, the Saints secondary will cause some problems as Autenreib is a ball hawk and they have some size/athleticism at corner... also this will turn the dogs loose up front.  If there are obvious passing situations, TMC will get after the QB. 
2.  Thomas More forces a couple turnovers early (MSJ has been a little turnover prone this year) and the offense gets off to a fast start and forces MSJ to play from behind.  This would play into TMC's hands for more than the obvious reasons (scoreboard). 

*The key to this game is how well MSJ runs the ball and if they stay committed to it.  Thomas More will get their big plays and the question is will the MSJ ground game wear out TMC.  Another wildcard is the Saints return game (as some Hanover fans can surely attest to).. its potentially very explosive with Owens and Savoy back there.  MSJ would be best served to not kick to Owens, but they can't give up field position in doing so (like the Hanover opening kickoff). 

I still think Thomas More wins, but it should be closer than the previous 3 years.  Probably 30-17.

It's either the girlfriend or old age

[SaintsFAN]

It's either the girlfriend or old age

probably a little bit of both.


one thing we can all look forward to is hearing from Adam Sayer on here after Saturday.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

I still think Thomas More wins, but it should be closer than the previous 3 years.  Probably 30-17.
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MSJ sure brought the physical game to FC (both schools knocked the crap out of each other).  Not as talented as they have been but can play serious smashmouth.  Good luck and get a home game!!

[SaintsFAN]

MSJ sure brought the physical game to FC (both schools knocked the crap out of each other).  Not as talented as they have been but can play serious smashmouth.  Good luck and get a home game!!

Thats what Thomas More was about when I was there in the 90s under Vic Clark (DC70), Dean Paul and Mike Hallet.  I know Coach Hilvert wants to be physical --- we'll see if the team responds in kind.  I think they will.

[propower64]

Just a call out to all Franklin College Fans that plan to be at Hanover this weekend to watch the Bell Game.  The Franklin College Touchdown Club will host a tailgate in the parking lot between the tennis courts and softball field.  Food line opens at 11:20 am.  GO GRIZ!