FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[Pat Coleman]

Could be addition by subtraction, though.

[SaintsFAN]

Could be addition by subtraction, though.

absolutely.  I'm sure they'll rally around the kid.  He has the ability.  I'm just glad his first start isn't happening against a MHB or Wesley or Whitewater.  Not that Franklin won't bring their A-game.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

Ryan's take: Thomas More 33, Franklin 30
Keith's take: Franklin 35, Thomas More 21
Pat's take: Thomas More 34, Franklin 28


**if there were 4 of them, I'm sure it'd be 2/2 --- though Keith usually picks against TMC (see W&L in week 12 last year and W&J in previous years)... but we still love him.

Love ya Keith..

Add in the Fan Poll which averaged out to take Franklin 30-24... including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.
In the National Pick 'Em the tally is 8-2 in favor of Franklin at the moment (surprising to me... thought it'd be one of the most even)

[dc_has_been]

I am pretty excited about the TMC vs FC game!  I really think the committee did a great job with this one.  Of course I'm pulling for the HCAC team because of their affiliation and because I would like to see how they do with a second go around with Whitewater. 

[SaintsFAN]

Ryan's take: Thomas More 33, Franklin 30
Keith's take: Franklin 35, Thomas More 21
Pat's take: Thomas More 34, Franklin 28


**if there were 4 of them, I'm sure it'd be 2/2 --- though Keith usually picks against TMC (see W&L in week 12 last year and W&J in previous years)... but we still love him.

Love ya Keith..

Add in the Fan Poll which averaged out to take Franklin 30-24... including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.
In the National Pick 'Em the tally is 8-2 in favor of Franklin at the moment (surprising to me... thought it'd be one of the most even)

TMC is the underdog.  Freshman QB making 1st start (even with the addition by subtraction thing) and on the road at Franklin.  I couldn't believe the stat though... TMC has never won a playoff game on the road and Franklin hasn't won at home.  Steal a line from the experts ... "something has to give".

Have fun to everyone at the game.  I'll be getting texted updates as I move.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

TMC has never won a playoff game on the road and Franklin hasn't won at home.

Franklin is 2-1 on the road and 0-2 at home in the playoffs...
2007 Franklin lost on a final play TD at home vs NCC
2008 Franklin won @ Otterbein and @ NCC as the 5 seed then lost at home to 7th seed Wheaton
2010 Franklin lost @ UWW

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Ryan's take: Thomas More 33, Franklin 30
Keith's take: Franklin 35, Thomas More 21
Pat's take: Thomas More 34, Franklin 28


**if there were 4 of them, I'm sure it'd be 2/2 --- though Keith usually picks against TMC (see W&L in week 12 last year and W&J in previous years)... but we still love him.

Love ya Keith..

This will be a good game. Going with Franklin to win, 28 - 17.

- Franklin playing at home - has to be worth something.
- Thomas More QB situation (freshman starter, Kues reportedly left the team) at the worst time possible.
- Franklin is not going to run away with it, as the Saints' D appears solid against the pass, and Franklin hasn't established a stout running game this season.

It was stout last week at Hanover!   LOL   

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Ryan's take: Thomas More 33, Franklin 30
Keith's take: Franklin 35, Thomas More 21
Pat's take: Thomas More 34, Franklin 28


**if there were 4 of them, I'm sure it'd be 2/2 --- though Keith usually picks against TMC (see W&L in week 12 last year and W&J in previous years)... but we still love him.

Love ya Keith..

Add in the Fan Poll which averaged out to take Franklin 30-24... including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.
In the National Pick 'Em the tally is 8-2 in favor of Franklin at the moment (surprising to me... thought it'd be one of the most even)

TMC is the underdog.  Freshman QB making 1st start (even with the addition by subtraction thing) and on the road at Franklin.  I couldn't believe the stat though... TMC has never won a playoff game on the road and Franklin hasn't won at home.  Steal a line from the experts ... "something has to give".

Have fun to everyone at the game.  I'll be getting texted updates as I move.

Should be a fun game.  Nice to have a game that makes you nervous all week.  First game all season for FC where the outcome could not reasonably be predicted well in advance.  I am going to predict a three point game either way. 

[Thunder44]

Ryan's take: Thomas More 33, Franklin 30
Keith's take: Franklin 35, Thomas More 21
Pat's take: Thomas More 34, Franklin 28


**if there were 4 of them, I'm sure it'd be 2/2 --- though Keith usually picks against TMC (see W&L in week 12 last year and W&J in previous years)... but we still love him.

Love ya Keith..

This will be a good game. Going with Franklin to win, 28 - 17.

- Franklin playing at home - has to be worth something.
- Thomas More QB situation (freshman starter, Kues reportedly left the team) at the worst time possible.
- Franklin is not going to run away with it, as the Saints' D appears solid against the pass, and Franklin hasn't established a stout running game this season.

It was stout last week at Hanover!   LOL   

Unfortunately, we had a way of making some opposing offenses look that way!!  Best of luck to the Griz today!

[panthersfan]

...
- Franklin is not going to run away with it, as the Saints' D appears solid against the pass, and Franklin hasn't established a stout running game this season.

In the first half of the game TMC is getting schooled by Franklin.  A lot of game left though...

[dc_has_been]

Congrats to Franklin for moving on to the second round!  Time for a rematch.

[FCGrizzliesGrad]

including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.

Can I claim that was a typo and I meant to type 2s rather than 3s?
Was hoping it'd stay a bit more one sided like the first half but at least they held on. I have a feeling this won't be the last time TMC and FC meet in the playoffs.

[GRIZ_BACKER]

including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.

Can I claim that was a typo and I meant to type 2s rather than 3s?
Was hoping it'd stay a bit more one sided like the first half but at least they held on. I have a feeling this won't be the last time TMC and FC meet in the playoffs.

Game was closer than it should have been.  FC got fooled on wildcat play on 4th and 2 from the FC 6 for a TD and gave  up a punt return TD.  TMC really mounted no lengthy drives.  Surprised at the lack of size in TMC in relation to their record and ranking. Quick team though.  Hard to win with a new QB.  Franklin took away the option for the most part and the FC defense was the difference.  Griz have a rough one coming up.

[maxamillion]

including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.

Can I claim that was a typo and I meant to type 2s rather than 3s?
Was hoping it'd stay a bit more one sided like the first half but at least they held on. I have a feeling this won't be the last time TMC and FC meet in the playoffs.

Game was closer than it should have been.  FC got fooled on wildcat play on 4th and 2 from the FC 6 for a TD and gave  up a punt return TD.  TMC really mounted no lengthy drives.  Surprised at the lack of size in TMC in relation to their record and ranking. Quick team though.  Hard to win with a new QB.  Franklin took away the option for the most part and the FC defense was the difference.  Griz have a rough one coming up.

How was being fooled by a fake field goal possible when Franklin called a timeout TMC came out in the same formation had to wait close to a minute while the refs got things right with the clock while TMC was still in fake FG formation and then preceded to run the same play as what they were doing when FC called a timeout? If Franklin was fooled it must of meant the whole FC coaching staff was blindfolded and guessed to call a timeout before that play.  Also a 95 yard punt return was called back on TMC (on from what I saw the worst fake block in the back call in the history of football) and that drive failed to score points, so there was 7 more points.  It was a great game! I have been around HCAC football since 2000 and that was one of the best games yet!!! But that spot given to FC on the QB sneak was horrible, hate to see a hard fought game come down to a fbad call like that.  Should of been fourth down with FC going for it on fourth down to win it or punt it and seen what the freshman QB had in him! I would love to see FC and TMC play more often, think it would help both programs tremendously!!! Both teams are soooooo young and loaded for next year, both could be really good.  Wish the whole game was played like the second half because that was some great football!  But good luck to FC against the machine UWW! 

[GRIZ_BACKER]

including my vote of 34-31 Franklin.

Can I claim that was a typo and I meant to type 2s rather than 3s?
Was hoping it'd stay a bit more one sided like the first half but at least they held on. I have a feeling this won't be the last time TMC and FC meet in the playoffs.

Game was closer than it should have been.  FC got fooled on wildcat play on 4th and 2 from the FC 6 for a TD and gave  up a punt return TD.  TMC really mounted no lengthy drives.  Surprised at the lack of size in TMC in relation to their record and ranking. Quick team though.  Hard to win with a new QB.  Franklin took away the option for the most part and the FC defense was the difference.  Griz have a rough one coming up.

How was being fooled by a fake field goal possible when Franklin called a timeout TMC came out in the same formation had to wait close to a minute while the refs got things right with the clock while TMC was still in fake FG formation and then preceded to run the same play as what they were doing when FC called a timeout? If Franklin was fooled it must of meant the whole FC coaching staff was blindfolded and guessed to call a timeout before that play.  Also a 95 yard punt return was called back on TMC (on from what I saw the worst fake block in the back call in the history of football) and that drive failed to score points, so there was 7 more points.  It was a great game! I have been around HCAC football since 2000 and that was one of the best games yet!!! But that spot given to FC on the QB sneak was horrible, hate to see a hard fought game come down to a fbad call like that.  Should of been fourth down with FC going for it on fourth down to win it or punt it and seen what the freshman QB had in him! I would love to see FC and TMC play more often, think it would help both programs tremendously!!! Both teams are soooooo young and loaded for next year, both could be really good.  Wish the whole game was played like the second half because that was some great football!  But good luck to FC against the machine UWW!

Too bad FC cant get out of the home and away contract with Mt Union the next two seasons and play TMC.  Both teams return most of their starters.  It was an exciting second half.  The officiating did seem suspect at times for both teams.  FC got called on a sideline "warning".  No warning just a penalty.