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WarhawkDad

Hello Franklin Fans

First a Thank-you for the hospitality you showed those of us from UWW who came down for the non-conference game earlier this year.  You know how to do it right!   Second, Congratulations on the first round playoff win!  Well-done.

Now, I am interested in knowing how you think playing UWW earlier this year will impact the game this Saturday?  It appears that you rolled through your Conference season.  Just trying to get some discussion going.   

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Quote from: WarhawkDad on November 21, 2011, 12:05:05 PM
Hello Franklin Fans

First a Thank-you for the hospitality you showed those of us from UWW who came down for the non-conference game earlier this year.  You know how to do it right!   Second, Congratulations on the first round playoff win!  Well-done.

Now, I am interested in knowing how you think playing UWW earlier this year will impact the game this Saturday?  It appears that you rolled through your Conference season.  Just trying to get some discussion going.   

WarhawkDad

Realistically, having played UWW may help some but having the horses at every position to pull off a win is not likely.  Franklin has improved a lot since early September, but I doubt UWW has remained stagnant either.  UWW plays a good schedule and is still the best team in the country until someone else knocks them off. Our contingent that makes the trip will have fun regardless.  Always fun to keep grilling and drinking in the lot!!
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FCGrizzliesGrad

I had a dream where Franklin led most of the game against UWW... but Whitewater scored a TD with 1 second left and won 44-42.  :-\
Realistically I don't think the game will be quite as bad as earlier in the year now that our QB has more experience and confidence, but I doubt it will be as close as I dreamed. Probably something like 41-14 but only 17-7 at halftime
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Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on November 21, 2011, 03:08:01 PM
I had a dream where Franklin led most of the game against UWW... but Whitewater scored a TD with 1 second left and won 44-42.  :-\
Realistically I don't think the game will be quite as bad as earlier in the year now that our QB has more experience and confidence, but I doubt it will be as close as I dreamed. Probably something like 41-14 but only 17-7 at halftime

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Quote from: MasterJedi on November 21, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
If UWW plays the way they did against Albion this Saturday it could easily turn into another 45-0 shelacking but I honestly don't see that happening. Franklin is too good of a team to let that happen again. I see the score being somewhere between 31-10 and 45-17. Close enough game in the first half before UWW pulls away to win comfortably in the second.

Franklin should have a good team next year. Their QB will have experience which should help a lot.

Or they almost equal each other.  :P

02 Warhawk

I started a WIAC football blog earlier in the season. Now that the post season is in full swing, I have doing a little write-up about each of Whitewater's playoffs opponents, starting with last week.

Franklin Grizzlies

Let me know what you think, and if everything is accurate.

Also, I have one question. I noticed a TON of Franklin players on the HCAC team, especially on defense. But I was surprised to read on where they rank in the conference in yards given up.....what might attribute to that?? I would assume there's more to it than just the Whitewater game earlier in the year.

Much appreciated

GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 22, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
I started a WIAC football blog earlier in the season. Now that the post season is in full swing, I have doing a little write-up about each of Whitewater's playoffs opponents, starting with last week.

Franklin Grizzlies

Let me know what you think, and if everything is accurate.

Also, I have one question. I noticed a TON of Franklin players on the HCAC team, especially on defense. But I was surprised to read on where they rank in the conference in yards given up.....what might attribute to that?? I would assume there's more to it than just the Whitewater game earlier in the year.

Much appreciated

Article looked accurate. nice props on the tailgating.  Might not be as many folks this year due to recent games with UWW, etc.  Just a feeling.  (check your spelling  seams?)  You might also want to consider a little diplomacy related to the rest of the HCAC, etc and FC's defense. (A little flip IMO). 

As far as defensive stats go, keep in mind that FC tends to let the second and third string guys in early and some of our opponents keep the starters in until late in the game.  Stats can be interpreted many ways.  UWW and UMU tend to have second string folks nearly as good as the starters thus limited drop off.  Secondly, teams that throw a lot and score quickly give up more yards as the opponents get the ball more often. 

"Mediocre" is in the eye of the beholder.  I don't think Hanover or Mt St Joseph (2nd and 3rd best HCAC teams) found the FC defense to be anything but pretty stout nor did Thomas More. Thomas More scored 14 points all game against the FC defense.   (the other TD was a punt return)
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 22, 2011, 12:14:13 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 22, 2011, 10:20:06 AM
I started a WIAC football blog earlier in the season. Now that the post season is in full swing, I have doing a little write-up about each of Whitewater's playoffs opponents, starting with last week.

Franklin Grizzlies

Let me know what you think, and if everything is accurate.

Also, I have one question. I noticed a TON of Franklin players on the HCAC team, especially on defense. But I was surprised to read on where they rank in the conference in yards given up.....what might attribute to that?? I would assume there's more to it than just the Whitewater game earlier in the year.

Much appreciated

Article looked accurate. nice props on the tailgating.  Might not be as many folks this year due to recent games with UWW, etc.  Just a feeling.  (check your spelling  seams?)  You might also want to consider a little diplomacy related to the rest of the HCAC, etc and FC's defense. (A little flip IMO). 

As far as defensive stats go, keep in mind that FC tends to let the second and third string guys in early and some of our opponents keep the starters in until late in the game.  Stats can be interpreted many ways.  UWW and UMU tend to have second string folks nearly as good as the starters thus limited drop off.  Secondly, teams that throw a lot and score quickly give up more yards as the opponents get the ball more often. 

"Mediocre" is in the eye of the beholder.  I don't think Hanover or Mt St Joseph (2nd and 3rd best HCAC teams) found the FC defense to be anything but pretty stout nor did Thomas More. Thomas More scored 14 points all game against the FC defense.   (the other TD was a punt return)

fair enough...thanks for the feeback

02 Warhawk

Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

Not a lot to say  Unlike the Wabash contingent FC folks don't live in fantasy land.  (Bash folks let the -k reign)
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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

I can state this:  our group that has tailgated together beginning with the blue/gold scrimmage. scrimmage with Depauw, and every game this season. we will be there.  We are all about a road trip, cocktails, and having a good time.  And if a football game breaks out in Whitewater we will be there for that too.  LOL  good food, good drink, and good friends.  football is an excuse. 
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Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 23, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

I can state this:  our group that has tailgated together beginning with the blue/gold scrimmage. scrimmage with Depauw, and every game this season. we will be there.  We are all about a road trip, cocktails, and having a good time.  And if a football game breaks out in Whitewater we will be there for that too.  LOL  good food, good drink, and good friends.  football is an excuse.

I like your attitude!  +k ;D

WarhawkDad

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 09:25:59 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 23, 2011, 09:10:54 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

I can state this:  our group that has tailgated together beginning with the blue/gold scrimmage. scrimmage with Depauw, and every game this season. we will be there.  We are all about a road trip, cocktails, and having a good time.  And if a football game breaks out in Whitewater we will be there for that too.  LOL  good food, good drink, and good friends.  football is an excuse.

I like your attitude!  +k ;D
Agreed! +k
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Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on November 23, 2011, 09:00:52 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 23, 2011, 04:21:54 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on November 23, 2011, 03:29:10 PM
Not a whole lot of chatter about the UWW/Franklin game on either one of our boards.


While it is undeniably true that both teams are somewhat different than in September, a replay of a 45-0 game can tend to put a damper on 'chatter'. :P

Not a lot to say  Unlike the Wabash contingent FC folks don't live in fantasy land.  (Bash folks let the -k reign)

I have to agree. I think Wabash is going to get smoked.