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BUBeaverFan

9/29/2012:

Manchester @ Bluffton       
Defiance @ Earlham       
Rose-Hulman @ Hanover             
Anderson @ Mt. St. Joseph    

SaintsFAN

Quote from: panthersfan on September 24, 2012, 01:48:24 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on September 24, 2012, 12:03:03 PM
... Hanover poised to make clean run to the finale in Franklin this Nov.  Anybody know what is wrong the MSJ? ...

Would make for an exciting game but Hanover has some work to do before making that a reality.  If we can put together 4 qrts of good football this Saturday I'll feel better about it.

Not sure about MSJ...  They do have a heck of a running back in Clay.  If they find a way to air it out a little more they could turn things around.

I wouldn't worry too much about MSJ -- they lost to Bluffton.  That doesn't bode well for the rest of the year.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

SaintsFAN

Very good article on Franklin in Around the Region this week.  I really like what Mike Leonard has done with the program.  He turns negatives into positives.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

BUBeaverFan

In the "Around the Nation" conference rankings the HCAC barely avoided the basement. I hope the overall strength of the league improves in the coming years.  Yeah Beavers!

panthersfan

Quote from: BUBeaverFan on September 28, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
In the "Around the Nation" conference rankings the HCAC barely avoided the basement. I hope the overall strength of the league improves in the coming years.  Yeah Beavers!

Just saw it myself.  A definite ouch but hard to argue with it.  I think we will see an improvement.

Looks like the weather will be great tomorrow.  Sunny and 73 for our game...  Looking forward to firing up the grill, cracking open a cold one, and get ready for some football.

Thunder44

Quote from: panthersfan on September 28, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: BUBeaverFan on September 28, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
In the "Around the Nation" conference rankings the HCAC barely avoided the basement. I hope the overall strength of the league improves in the coming years.  Yeah Beavers!

Just saw it myself.  A definite ouch but hard to argue with it.  I think we will see an improvement.

Looks like the weather will be great tomorrow.  Sunny and 73 for our game...  Looking forward to firing up the grill, cracking open a cold one, and get ready for some football.

Not to mention that the game starts at 2:30 Eastern time, so there is an extra hour for pre-game preparations and hydration!

Will be interesting to see how Hanover comes out of the bye week.

FCGrizzliesGrad

We're not last? Imagine if Franklin hadn't had it's successes the past few years... we'd probably have been ranked 27th out of 26 conferences :o
Wonder if anyone will start heading out west to take on the UMAC now just to see if we can beat someone.
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Twenty-five penalties for 232 yards in Richmond today.  No wonder this league is 2nd to last.

Thunder44

Quote from: Thunder44 on September 28, 2012, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: panthersfan on September 28, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
Quote from: BUBeaverFan on September 28, 2012, 01:02:27 PM
In the "Around the Nation" conference rankings the HCAC barely avoided the basement. I hope the overall strength of the league improves in the coming years.  Yeah Beavers!

Just saw it myself.  A definite ouch but hard to argue with it.  I think we will see an improvement.

Looks like the weather will be great tomorrow.  Sunny and 73 for our game...  Looking forward to firing up the grill, cracking open a cold one, and get ready for some football.

Not to mention that the game starts at 2:30 Eastern time, so there is an extra hour for pre-game preparations and hydration!

Will be interesting to see how Hanover comes out of the bye week.

I'll answer my own question about how Hanover came out of their bye week.

First, Rose was well-prepared for Saturday's game.  Outside of the first drive the Panthers had (no points, INT in endzone) the Engineer D was mostly able to contain Hanover until the fourth quarter. 

Secondly, Hanover simply can't afford to keep turning the ball over and expect to win games.  They have been able to overcome deficits the first two weeks of conference play, but you can't count on that every week.

The end of regulation was puzzling to say the least.  Rose has the ball inside the 10, no timeouts but still some time on the clock.  Sent the FG team on the field, but couldn't get the O off the field in time to kick a chip shot FG to win the game.  A play or two before that, the QB was motioning to the sideline to spike the ball to stop the clock, but evidently was overruled.  Not sure what the coaches were thinking, but if they had it to do over, I think they would play it very differently.

Positives for Hanover
Run game - The Panther's run game has improved weekly, culminating with 270 yards this week.  Spencer Corrao had 189 of that, and got a considerable amount of that up the middle.  Kudos to the O Line for their improvement and contributing greatly to the total for the day. This bodes well for the future, as the O Line consists of 1 Junior and 4 Sophomores.  If they can keep improving and stay injury free, they can become a strength of the team.

Never quit attitude - Both conference wins have been in comeback fashion.  Of course, it would be real nice to win a game without having to come back, but this team keeps fighting until the end.  I honestly didn't think there was enough time this week in the fourth quarter with the hole Hanover dug for themselves, but they reached down and found something to pull this one out.

More Work To Do
Turnovers - Last year was marked by winning the turnover differential several times, which kept Hanover in some games.  Turnovers are too prevalent this season.  5 TOs in the first half was really tough to overcome on Saturday, and gave Rose a short field for 2 of their scores.

Hanover still needs to put together a complete game where they play well in all phases of the game for 4 quarters. On to Anderson this week, and no time for a letdown. 

Go Panthers!

panthersfan

Quote from: Thunder44 on October 01, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
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Hanover still needs to put together a complete game where they play well in all phases of the game for 4 quarters...

Amen to that... 

gofor7pitt

Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?

SaintsFAN

Quote from: gofor7pitt on October 05, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?

In a word, no.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

GRIZ_BACKER

Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 05, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Quote from: gofor7pitt on October 05, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?

In a word, no.

While always fun to travel to MSJ, this years game (at least on paper) doesnt appear to measure up to some of the previous battles the Griz and Lions have waged.  It wouldnt be to far fetched to see Franklin ring up 40-50 points and not give up more than 10.  If the Griz can nuetralize the running game for MSJ the lions may be in for a long afternoon.  Regardless the delicious food and cold refreshments will be served on the upper deck of the parking garage and fun will be had by all.
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Thunder44

Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on October 05, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 05, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Quote from: gofor7pitt on October 05, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?

In a word, no.

While always fun to travel to MSJ, this years game (at least on paper) doesnt appear to measure up to some of the previous battles the Griz and Lions have waged.  It wouldnt be to far fetched to see Franklin ring up 40-50 points and not give up more than 10.  If the Griz can nuetralize the running game for MSJ the lions may be in for a long afternoon.  Regardless the delicious food and cold refreshments will be served on the upper deck of the parking garage and fun will be had by all.

While traditionally preferring the run over the pass, it appears as though MSJ is even more so this season.  When playing Hanover, it was also noteworthy that they gain most of their yards running right.  Left side was pretty much shut down all day.  Not sure what's up with that, but as you rightly note, shutting down the running game early will make for a long day.  Weather is supposed to be nice by gametime, if a little cool, so enjoy your tailgate!

SaintsFAN

Quote from: Thunder44 on October 05, 2012, 02:37:15 PM
Quote from: GRIZ_BACKER on October 05, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
Quote from: SaintsFAN on October 05, 2012, 07:42:40 AM
Quote from: gofor7pitt on October 05, 2012, 06:28:39 AM
Longest conference winning streaks:

48 – Mount Union
25 – UW-Whitewater
21 – Cal Lutheran, Linfield, Mary Hardin-Baylor
20 – Franklin
17 – Johns Hopkins, North Central, St. Scholastica
14 – Monmouth
13 – Christopher Newport
10 – Amherst, St. Thomas

Will it be tough for the Griz to make it 21 this Saturday at MSJ?

In a word, no.

While always fun to travel to MSJ, this years game (at least on paper) doesnt appear to measure up to some of the previous battles the Griz and Lions have waged.  It wouldnt be to far fetched to see Franklin ring up 40-50 points and not give up more than 10.  If the Griz can nuetralize the running game for MSJ the lions may be in for a long afternoon.  Regardless the delicious food and cold refreshments will be served on the upper deck of the parking garage and fun will be had by all.

While traditionally preferring the run over the pass, it appears as though MSJ is even more so this season.  When playing Hanover, it was also noteworthy that they gain most of their yards running right.  Left side was pretty much shut down all day.  Not sure what's up with that, but as you rightly note, shutting down the running game early will make for a long day.  Weather is supposed to be nice by gametime, if a little cool, so enjoy your tailgate!

They completed one pass against Anderson in four quarters of play.  I'd put everyone including the band in the box and play Cover Zero behind it.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2