FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 02, 2021, 04:31:51 PM

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 02, 2021, 04:27:12 PM
Free football from Faught. Franklin first. Fourth and forever fails.

Enough alliteration. Any score for Manchester wins

Manchester kicks a 49 yard FG to beat Franklin 27-24 in OT. Looked like it would have been good from about 54.

GrizFan · October 03, 2021, 04:56:06 PM

I have been watching Franklin games for over 40 years and that is the most embarrassing and pathetic loss that I have ever seen! The defense gives up less than 150 yards in total offense yet Manchester scores 27 points and tacks a loss on the Grizzlies! A total lack of effort, focus, and discipline by the GRIZ! FC had almost more yards in penalties than Manchester had on offense. This type of effort will lead to losing all conference games. No way we could've beaten Defiance or Anderson today, much less others in the HCAC.

We need a change at QB for sure, no QB is slower at the RPO mesh than Andrews. He is way too slow in the RPO, is no threat to run and how many bad INTs can you throw before you set the bench? Last year, Spencer Wright showed some wheels and he is much quicker at making decisions. I know Andrews has a better arm but who cares if he continues to make bad decision!

Let's go GRIZ, we are better than this!

Dr. Acula · October 03, 2021, 08:45:50 PM

I've been on these boards a while. That's one of the few losses I can say is legitimately shocking. I hope Franklin rights the ship because the HCAC (and whatever the north region is called) needs them to be the normal Griz.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 04, 2021, 06:38:42 PM

Franklin has been playing to the opponent's skill level all year. They played up to Platteville (until the 4th quarter) while playing down to Rhodes and Manchester. The obvious issue is turnovers. Franklin is 238th out of 240 in D3 at -2.25 a game only ahead of Defiance -3.25 and Whittier at -3.33. They've turned it over 14 times which is only better than 8 teams (6 of whom have played an extra game). 7 fumbles is only better than 5 teams (4 have played an extra game)

Franklin has shown signs of good play (3rd quarter against Manchester was excellent on both sides of the ball) but can't seem to keep it up for a full game. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Hanover/Rose/MSJ a good game while letting Anderson/Defiance stay in it well into the 2nd half.

Franklin hasn't finished below .500 since 2003... could be in jeopardy this year. If they can beat Defiance and Anderson that means they need 1 more win to get to 5-5. But a performance like this week against Bluffton won't be good enough.

Mr. Ypsi · October 04, 2021, 10:59:10 PM

Quote from: FCGrizzliesGrad on October 04, 2021, 06:38:42 PM
Franklin has been playing to the opponent's skill level all year. They played up to Platteville (until the 4th quarter) while playing down to Rhodes and Manchester. The obvious issue is turnovers. Franklin is 238th out of 240 in D3 at -2.25 a game only ahead of Defiance -3.25 and Whittier at -3.33. They've turned it over 14 times which is only better than 8 teams (6 of whom have played an extra game). 7 fumbles is only better than 5 teams (4 have played an extra game)

Franklin has shown signs of good play (3rd quarter against Manchester was excellent on both sides of the ball) but can't seem to keep it up for a full game. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Hanover/Rose/MSJ a good game while letting Anderson/Defiance stay in it well into the 2nd half.

Franklin hasn't finished below .500 since 2003... could be in jeopardy this year. If they can beat Defiance and Anderson that means they need 1 more win to get to 5-5. But a performance like this week against Bluffton won't be good enough.

As a Titan alum, what scares me is that they played down to IWU.

While IWU just whupped Elmhurst 52-3, I fear this may be the worst Titan team in 70-80 years. (Elmhurst if BEYOND bad.)

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 09, 2021, 01:34:47 PM

Turnover woes continue for the Grizzlies. 1st play and interception. MSJ up 7-0 less than a minute in.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 09, 2021, 02:33:23 PM

Franklin has clawed back a 14-0 deficit to tie it at 14 with 2 minutes left in the half.

Manchester up 16-0 on Defiance
Bluffton leads 18-0 at Anderson
Hanover and Rose are tied at 7 midway through the 1st.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 16, 2021, 11:12:20 PM

Now that's the Franklin we're used to seeing. 45-6 win over Bluffton, +4 in the turnover battle. That's the kind of performance that can beat Rose or Hanover in a few weeks.

Rest of the conference went as expected, MSJ wins the closest game of the day over Manchester 28-0, Hanover beat Defiance 51-0, and Rose over Anderson 62-7.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 23, 2021, 01:46:52 PM

Ugh, Anderson's audio is absolutely awful. It's more noise than audio. Every time they speak it's sounds like super loud static. Have to watch on mute.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 23, 2021, 02:20:39 PM

At least the sound issues have been resolved. ~~Too bad the play hasn't improved... still scoreless about midway through the 2nd.~~ And Franklin with a long TD to take a 7-0 lead

Hanover leads Bluffton 20-0
Rose over Manchester 21-7
MSJ leads Defiance 10-7

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 23, 2021, 02:43:27 PM

Halftime in the HCAC. Road teams leading the way today.

Franklin leads at Anderson 10-0
MSJ leads at Defiance 10-7
Hanover leads at Bluffton 20-0
Rose leads at Manchester 35-7 with a few minutes left in the 2nd

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 23, 2021, 03:58:06 PM

Rose and Hanover are up big in the 4th, Franklin leads 17-0... but the upset alert... MSJ is losing at Defiance 14-13 with under 8 minutes left

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 23, 2021, 04:22:37 PM

Defiance hands Mount St Joseph their first conference loss while picking up their first win of the season 14-13

Franklin shuts out Anderson 17-0
Hanover over Bluffton 41-10
Rose bests Manchester 57-14

Rose-Hulman is the final unbeaten in conference while Anderson is the only winless.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 30, 2021, 06:18:36 PM

Franklin still playing to their competitions level beating Defiance 13-7. Start of the game was good with the teams combining for 200 yards of offense a TD and 2 FG after their first four combined drives. The rest of the game was terrible with 12 punts, 3 turnovers on downs, 2 interceptions, two missed FG, two end of halves, a fumble, a TD, and a partridge in a pear tree.

Rose stays unbeaten in conference with a 48-12 win over Bluffton
Hanover with the shutout 33-0 on Manchester
MSJ bounces back with a 35-18 win over Anderson

The top 4 teams all play each other each of the final two weeks. Maybe there will be enough chaos that even Franklin can somehow pull out the title.

FCGrizzliesGrad · October 30, 2021, 07:28:24 PM

Went through the combinations for the final two weeks... Franklin is eliminated.

Read the chart by picking a winner for each game then moving to the row below and continuing. At the bottom is wins for each team with those set of winners. Gold wins the conference, grey tied for 1st but lost tiebreaker.
That chaotic 4 way tie, MSJ and Franklin would be 2-1 while Rose and Hanover are 1-2 head to head, I think you then start at the top again and MSJ has the H2H on Franklin.

I count 10 scenarios for Rose, 5 for MSJ, 1 for Hanover.
If Rose beats Franklin and Hanover beats MSJ next week then Rose locks up the playoffs. If Rose beats MSJ in week 11 they're in the playoffs.
If MSJ wins their final two games they're in the playoffs.
Hanover must win their final two and Rose lose their final two to make the playoffs.