FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

At least you have griffey playing like he did years ago, that is the one bright spot to a sorry season.

[Adam Sayer]

The Reds may be very bad but...
1. Griffey is back to being Griffey
2. Homer Bailey showed he can be a dominant pitcher in the MLB (good for the future)
3. Josh Hamilton is in the hunt for rookie of the year
4. Firing managers usually sparks a team ala the Reds winning 5 of 6 and 4 in a row heading into the All Star break.

So there are some good storylines this year rather than just being the worst team in MLB.

[M and L]

it was nice to see Griff to have display in the allstar game

[Adam Sayer]

Rich Franklin is fighting in Cincinnati on 10/20/07 for the UFC middle weight championship. It's a pay per view event and will probably be held at US Bank Arena. I would imagine you could get a ticket for about $40-$50 a pop which isn't too bad to watch a bunch of guys kick the piss out of each other. I would imagine that Matt Hamill will also be fighting since he's a Cincinnati Boy also...and 3 time NCAA DIII champion wrestler from a Deaf school in New York...yeah he's also deaf.

[SaintsFAN]

I think former Thomas More LB and coach, Chris Wells is supposed to be fighting in this thing as well.  He's one of Rich Franklin's training partners.  I'll confirm when I hear more...

Hammill's brother, Pat was on our 1995 team...until he got in a little trouble and was NOT asked back to school.  He ended up at Mount St. Joe for a year and then nobody has heard from him..

[Adam Sayer]

Here's an article that should make Cave2beans proud:

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=147

And Since football is right around the corner, here's a youtube link for all you Buckeye lovers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMlPWO9N9eU

[victorybell_57]

no sayer, this is the most important video of the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpxjl23QFH8

actually, i find it hard to say anything comical about this without going really under the belt. maybe you guys can come up with something.

vbell57, out

[ADAWGISADAWG4LIFE]

I belive I actually saw that same thing on television but it was full length on HBO or something like that a couple years ago.   I didnt watch your whole clip, but I know on the HBO special one, the big DL actually got into a fight with his position coach, and the position coach initiated the whole thing.  I find it pretty comical that the sign in the weight room on the wall said "Discipline above all" when I watched it the least disciplined people seemed to be the coaches.

[Adam Sayer]

I've seen that on HBO too and if you ever wanted to know why Pacman Jones and Chris Henry are the way they are...it's because of HS situations like that. Where coaches talk about kicking the sh!t out of someone who comes into your house and takes your remote control and every other word is f*ck. Those kids don't get an education, don't learn how to be an adult, don't learn what's morally and ethically acceptable...they just learn football. And when they get older, they end up dead or if they do make it to The League, they end up like the Pacman.

[SaintsFAN]

I second that Adam, to an extent.  I coached 8 year olds in Covington two years ago, and these inner city kids get an "early start" on that kind of behavior....from the environment they are raised in.  Its probably why these coaches are the way they are as well.....just a vicious cycle..

[Adam Sayer]

I am not perfect. I yell, cuss, and have grabbed kids by their arms and did the whole finger in their chest thing as Bill Venard was so adept at doing. I'm probably as leanient as it gets when it comes to 'Old School' coaching, but this is bad. The coach lays the kid out on the field. And the asst tells the other players to let them fight. They are sending the message that it's ok to be violent when things don't go your way.

And VBell, I think this will be the biggest film of the year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OL50ddCSJmo

[cave2bens]

Here's an article that should make Cave2beans proud:

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=147

Appreciate the thought, Adam.  FYI, "league" is substantially different (more like American Gridiron) than rugby union rules and is basically limited to "Oz" and the English midlands for popularity.  It's not nearly as free-wheeling in flow, and it's origins evolved via "professional compensation" through corporate teams in the latter decade of the 1800s.  Lacks the continuity of play and the fervent national and regional levels of support of the Union game.

And now, back to the pads;

Signed,

William Webb Ellis 

[victorybell_57]

nice sayer. i think i will have to see that in the theater. i put off on seeing team america: world police and i have been kicking myself since.

i read somewhere those coaches got fired for:

a.) covering up a statutory rape case involving coache(s) with a student
b.) encouraging a gang rape of a high school girl to get fired up to play their rival.

i have no idea if these guy were convicted of the latter, but there are coaches in jail for obstruction of justice for the former charge. while the inner city can be a "vicous cycle," it doesn't mean that these coaches and teachers cannot try to stop that cycle once the kids are under their supervision. if you aren't part of the solution, you are part of the problem. those coaches are definitely part of the problem.

i love old school coaching as much as the next guy. finger in my chest many times during practice and getting screamed at for not doing my job, but i was never called a "b*tch a** m*th* f*ck*" and form tackled by my coaches. those guys are a joke. it seems they ran good drills and all of that during practice, too bad they didn't attend ethics conferences while they learned schemes.

i wonder if this actually works for pregame. sayer, you should implement this for pregame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dQQruAfio

[Adam Sayer]

NOT A CHANCE!!!!!!! 

[victorybell_57]

yeah, that was weird.

i am still a fan of the high school pregame where you go through all out hitting drills for 35 minutes before kickoff.