FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[victorybell_57]

god, deitz absolutely killed franklin for a few years. just killed them. he is a great qb.

[Adam Sayer]

He's either very cerebrial or just unbelievably talented. I know Arena isn't complicated when it comes to reading defenses, but as SaintsFan mentioned, was AFL2's Rookie of the Year last year and was Tampa Bay's 4th, that's right, 4th QB of the season and went 7-1 as a starter prior to losing to CBus in the playoffs. To switch teams, philosophies, etc. every year and still be successful is pretty amazing, even if it is Arena.

[JacketsFan]

Okay, coming in late to the thread here. Wasn't Dietz Hanover's QB? I'm trying to picture him. I'm thinking he graduated in 2003, which would've been my son's first year at DC. If he's the same QB I'm thinking about, I wondered what happened to him. He had the stuff, for sure. How many Arena League QB's have made the leap to the NFL other than Warner?

[Adam Sayer]

I don't think many QB's have made a 'successful' leap to the NFL. With NFL Europe folding, it will be interesting to see the interaction of the NFL and AFL. It's hard to imagine the AFL as a developmental league, but, where do you play if you can't make The League? The options are limited so I think you'll be seeing more NFL teams coming to the AFL looking for talent.

[70_dc_alum]

sayer all depends on the coaching staff.  after my 1 year playing i still have no freaking clue what the plays are but it was damn near a novel to call a play for the dueschbag who was our OC/HC.  he basically called out a blocking scheme, motion per reciver, and route per reciver on every play vs just somethign simple like 490 Smash  it would be something like Slide left X zip 99, y cross 91, Z 90 Cross double cant remember the rest on 3

[SaintsFAN]

What did you guys do when he said "can't remember the rest on first sound"?


Jacketsfan,

He was #15....was the very precise QB, and dissected defenses.  Came out of Covington Catholic High School, which has a history of producing great HS QB's who've won the state title....but I don't think he did. 

So to recap....#15 Hanover jersey, tall, kind of built....and didn't wear any rings until he was at Hanover and they won the HCAC. 

[victorybell_57]

built? i don't think i'd say that.

oh yeah, and the dissecting defenses is correct. if you mean having joe namath back there ripping your defense to the tune of 400 yards and 4 tds before the double reverse throwback pass, that was him. he threw a great ball, great deep ball also. you usually don't see a great deep ball from precise throwers, but he did.

[Adam Sayer]

So to recap....#15 Hanover jersey, tall, kind of built....and didn't wear any rings until he was at Hanover and they won the HCAC. 

Sounds like SaintsFan is recapping the next QB Commercial superstar. He was good and I don't think he was ever the HCAC offensive player of the year due to Joel Steele. Which is a joke, not because he was necessarily better than Steele, but because Hanover won the HCAC his Junior and Senior year. Not Anderson. They both put up similar numbers, but Steele couldn't beat Hanover when Dietz was their QB.

And in N. KY, Covington Catholic is a very, very good football program. They consistently produce great teams and players. My freshman year, when I had no idea who Dietz was, I looked over the program and saw that he played at Cov. Cath. Instantly I knew he was a good player because of where he was from.

[dc_has_been]

Didn't Kurt Warner come from the AFL?

JacketsFan-great to see you back & posting.

70dcalum- I see after you lost all of that weight you are now a light weight when it comes to drinking.

[NCC_alum62]

Didn't Kurt Warner come from the AFL?

JacketsFan-great to see you back & posting.

70dcalum- I see after you lost all of that weight you are now a light weight when it comes to drinking.

Yes Kurt Warner played in the AFL, he went to college at Northern Iowa

[JacketsFan]

Thank you, SaintsFAN. I thought he was the one. My guess is that Dietz could've played at a higher level in college. He had a big arm. He was accurate. He played smart. I don't remember how well he ran the ball but he was terror through the air. How was he on his feet? I only saw him play that one time and then he graduated. I was also very impressed with Joel Steele. I'd forgotten about him. How could you not be a great QB with a name like that? I think the Ravens thought Chris McKee would be the answer to Steele. He did look pretty good the first year I saw DC play Anderson with McKee at QB. But I noticed he had a tendency to hang in the pocket a little too long and I knew that it was only a matter of time before DC's defense sniffed that out. And they did.

The senior that started as Rose Hulman's QB last year, Cameron Hummel, I think his name was, looked promising but went out early in the season. Is he the one who got his arm broken playing DC? His replacement was a freshman, Eric Keitel or whatever his name was didn't look too shabby for a freshman QB either. I think RHIT could be a dark horse this year and might surprise some people.

dc_has_been - it's good to be back on the board, bro. I don't know why I take these extended sabbaticals the way I do. I always miss you bunch of miscreants and reprobates. Victory-bell, I see you're still looking as dapper as ever. I think the HCAC is easily within reach of Franklin this year, especially if you can keep Rupp healthy.

I hate baseball. I watched Eight Men Out the other night for the umpteenth time. Now THAT was real baseball. I can't figure why Major League Baseball keeps Shoeless Joe Jackson out of the Hall of Fame. All he did was take the money. He had no part in throwing the game. The Sox did as well as they did after the fix mostly because of Jackson. Mark McGuire and Barry Bonds and all the other steroid sucking posers will get into the Hall of Fame. Screw the commission, Major League Baseball sucks.

Gawd, college football season can't start soon enough.

[victorybell_57]

baseball is boring, the but the bronx is burning is great. i recommend it.

deitz could run pretty good, i think he was also a basketball player at hc. brett could have and should have played at a higher level. any one of the IAA lehighs or such would have nabbed him, any number of D2's would have loved to have a qb like him. i am sure the university of indianapolis could have used his skill during his tenure in college. teams that have qb's like him usually win a lot of games. (yes pat, mount union has good qb's!!) look at the weapons deitz had at hc during his time there, not many schools have that pool of talent to throw to like he did. i am glad they have all graduated and FC is pretty darn good now, turning the tables on the talent pool.

[Adam Sayer]

Franklin - 33 votes in D3football preseason poll, MSJ has 16.

[dc_has_been]

I think having 2 teams getting that many votes each is a big plus for the HCAC.  Now all we have to do is get some W's in post season action. 

[victorybell_57]

the HCAC has been getting better, gaining national notoriety, and evening out. i applaud all of the coaches in the HCAC for making it a better place to live.

and yes, i agree 100%, all we need is that first playoff win to start our march to the championship game.