FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[tepee]

see you there

[Adam Sayer]

I heard a comment today at the bar about ND and their situation. I don't have time tonight to write about it, but it is very interesting and the facts that this individual stated were really interesting and made Charlie Weis look like a flash in the pan. It wasn't stuff he was making up (as a football player and student of the sport you can usually tell when someone's blowing smoke up your arse). It presented the whole thing in a new light.

[SaintsFAN]

if thats true, he's an expensive flash in the pan. 

read the article on msn.foxsports.com

at this point, I'm pretty pissed that they can't score a TD.  To me...he's Marvin Lewis....where as Marvin's big things that led him to getting the Bengals job was an emphasis on discipline and defense....where's that?  Charlie Weis' was offense?  Where's that?

I could be jumping the gun because they are young...but we'll see. 

He is a good recruiter though...but you have to use that talent.  For instance the offensive line....they look like turds right now....but ALL are either 4 star or 5 star recruits when they came out of HS. 

I know half of what that guy had to say was about the Patriots videotaping..

[frank uible]

One is not a good recruiter unless and until his recruits play well in games.

[Adam Sayer]

What he mentiond was about in college you are a lot more responsible for overseeing the development of the whole team rather than an OC in the NFL and could he actually do that. In college you have 18 year old kids comming in, most of whom are athletic as hell but maybe don't understand football. You need to develop them into players. In the NFL, you get players who are already studs and not as much development is needed. Can Charlie acually oversee the development of kids into college athletes? Remember, Charlie never played college football and I believe, this job has been his only college job. The rest of his time has been spent in the NFL. He doesn't have the experience of the college game, just experience worthing with guys who are already great football players.

You all blame Ty for this year, but I think this is just as much Charlie's fault. He didn't get any of these kids PT the last 2 years. Not all of them are freshman. He has juniors, Seniors, and Sophomores who have been in his system now for 3 years and to be in a situation like this isn't acceptable. Those kids need to get some PT either in the kicking game or in blowouts.

The seat isn't hot right now, but let me give you a scenario. If they go into the Navy game 1-7 or 0-8 and lose, then will the seat be hot? Remember, names like Faust, Willingham, and Davie have never lost to the midshipmen.

[victorybell_57]

i like frank the tank's take on weiss. your players have to play for you once they are there! however, this is the conundrum (sp?), this is the year when ty didn't bring a soul to south bend that could hack it. granted, his players did good for charlie, but now ty has been exposed as he took some time off the recruiting trail. i think charlie's first 2 years would go as they did, it's easy to get guys to buy in right away and get results. they were decently talented and played above expectations. now, they are not decently talented and are playing well below what they are even able to achieve. their OL is a bunch of fat babies who have no pride, in mo after watching them.

did anybody notice that large charlie held a brutal sunday practice after their tail whipping last week? he is sending a message that "this is Notre Dame football and we do not lose!! that gold helmet means more to college football here in south bend than anybody else, and we are going to play accordingly."

i was coached by a fellow who played at ND back in the olden times, B.L. (before lou) i hated him with a passion, but i understood him after he told some old ND stories. after losses, they had long brutal practices in the stadium with the lights on, and no fans or media were allowed near it. all they heard was "blue and gold this, blue and gold that, ND tradition, if you don't want to be apart of it then go home", and stuff like that in clean language. then they would run stadium steps until people couldn't carry their teammates up the steps.

when they won, they ran victory laps, yes victory laps for beating the team. the mentality being that if you run like this after a win, you know you are working harder than the team you are playing this week and you'll wear them out. pride, tradition, blue and gold, gold helmet, you are automatically tougher than the team you are playing because you play at ND and that's the bottom line. he said he was told by a coach there after he broke his nose on a kickoff that he isn't going anywhere. "that s.o.b. broke a ND nose and you better break his ribs for disrespecting you like that!" extreme i know, but when you believe it and you go out there trying to crush a guys rib cage in half, then it works. my last anecdote was of the middle backer they had, he weighed 190 lbs. the coaches there convinced this guy that he simply was the toughest LB in the nation because of where he was playing and all that. well, it came down to a play against some team i don't know, and this guy blew up the FB on the way through the line before he ran over the QB before coming to, and killing/putting the TB out of the game. the coach on the sidelines was jumping up and down and asked him how he did that? his response was "you told me to get to the TB on the sweep no matter what was in my way..."

that's what ND is missing, not talent or play calls, but testicles.

NOTRE DAME lacks that old blood and guts mentality they are famous for.

[victorybell_57]

charlie coached high school for a few years, that is developing players.

[Adam Sayer]

I would say at least Duke is on the schedule but even they have a win (though the first in multiple years).

[M and L]

Where does the Mt play @ this week?

[tepee]

its a bye week

[70_dc_alum]

so where is DC coaches filming at this weekend?  i heard the coaches did a couple clinics in new england in the offseason on game film management.

here is to the Bucks not letting up to Northwestern as they have a tendency to do. 

[SaintsFAN]

Thomas More 8
Thiel College 6

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Thomas More blocked a punt for a safety for the winning margin.  Thiel drove late, scored and dropped the 2 pt conversion pass.

[SaintsFAN]

good start for ND....fumble recovery....dare I say Touchdown here?  we'll see...  Clausen incomplete on 1st down.

[SaintsFAN]

TOUCHDOWN NOTRE DAME!!!!

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[FCAlum06]

Last I heard FC was up 38-0 at end of third quarter!