FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[victorybell_57]

seems to me that the FC team took the week off to prepare to get back on track to hit the playoffs running. good work grizzlies.

[SaintsFAN]

agreed....though if Tri-State had beaten Franklin....


OK, so I'm taking Liddell tonight...who wants the "Dean of Mean"??


out like ND

[Adam Sayer]

INTERESTING PLEASE READ

I'm in Columbus for the Ol Lady's birthday and a bunch of my friends are up here for the game and we all went out last night. One of the guys who went out with us goes to school at Capital and played a sport (not going to give the sport or his name). We had an interesting conversation about Steroids. We talked about me playing at MSJ and he asked me if anyone on MSJ's team had used Steroids while I was there. I had explained that there was one guy who we all thought did but no one knew for sure. We had no proof at all (none that I knew of it was just an assumption) and he was the only person who had steroids mentioned in the same sentence as his name. I figured everyone was clean when I was there. Small school, word travels fast and Steroids wasn't a topic.

He told me he has multiple friends on the football team at Capital (remember he played a sport at Capital) and said he KNEW of at least 4 football players who were using steroids when he was playing at Capital and figured it was more. He was under the assumption this was a normal thing at a DIII school where it's low profile and figured we had guys doing it as well. He had said that he was told by these players and/or other players in Capital's system that there are a significant number of players in the OAC who take steroids.

Again, he brought this up to me and thought is was the norm in DIII football. What do y'all think about THIS?? I believe he is still a student at Capital (if not he just graduated) and all this involves the football team the last 4 years or so.

[Pat Coleman]

Playoff teams get drug tested by the NCAA. The penalty for testing positive for a banned substance is the loss of a full year of eligibility.

Capital played enough postseason games in the past two years to pretty much ensure everyone had to give a sample.

[dc_has_been]

I'm sure that more than one person at MSJ was using roids & any other DIII school even if they made the playoffs or not.  You would have to be clueless to think that there are programs out there that are completely clean.  There are many ways to past a drug test for roids & other drugs.  This is a problem at all levels of professional, college, & high school. 

[victorybell_57]

i wish i could quote the head coach from the program

[Pat Coleman]

I'm sure that more than one person at MSJ was using roids & any other DIII school even if they made the playoffs or not.  You would have to be clueless to think that there are programs out there that are completely clean.  There are many ways to past a drug test for roids & other drugs.  This is a problem at all levels of professional, college, & high school. 

No doubt. I'm not sure, though, that division III players have easy access to ways to cheat drug tests.

[Adam Sayer]

Not a single person was drug tested when we qualified in 2004 and isn't it random testing anyway? It's very possible and this is a trustable source from Capital, in a prominent Capital athletic program.

Again, in 4 years at MSJ, there was only 1 person who was believed to be taking steroids and honestly, at MSJ, I believe no one used. Even the guy who was rumored never gave us proof. It was just something we assumed. We were always the smallest O-line in the HCAC (I was typically the biggest linemen at 280/285) and at the TMC/Wilmington/MSJ lifting competition, we never had anyone lifting freakish amounts of weight. We had big, chiseled guys, but no one who looked like roid takers.

My dad was a former body builder. I've met friends of his young and old on roids and have seen pictures of guys when they were on them competing. No one at MSJ looked like these people and we never had any circumstances (to quote the Program) where a guy gain 35 pounds of muscle and an attitude to go with it. Does it happen at DIII schools, I imagine so and probably fairly often, but it didn't happen at MSJ from 2001-2004. Not to my knowledge.

To be quite honest to kind of give a response to DC Has Been's statement. My dad asked me the summer before my senior year if I wanted to start taking. Not going to lie, I was intrigued and we went over everthing from alternating hips to oil and water base to creams. I didn't do it because of fear that we had a great team and had a shot at the playoffs. I didn't want to be THAT guy. Had I known that no one would have been tested that year, even when we went to the playoffs, I would have taken them.

[Adam Sayer]

And the Bengals are officially a Joke. Worst team in the NFL. I'm ready for Marvin to take action on his words and get the heck out of town.

[SaintsFAN]

though I don't know about worst in the NFL, they definitely pissed down their legs yesterday...

I thought this year would be rough...but this rough?  Bengals SHOULD be 3-0 at this point..

oh yeah...back in my day (before steriods were invented).... they served steriods out of the vending machines in the lunchroom.  It was nice...

JK, I only saw one guy who had the signs of it, he graduated early and wasn't ever a factor....kept getting shuffled from d to offensive line.

[70_dc_alum]

there were always a couple you kind of knew like Sayer said, but they never seemed to work too much and was always some scrub looking for an easy way.  problem is they were a scrub because they did not work hard...droping $300 bucks on a heart attack in a bottle it still did not change the fact you had to go balls to the wall in workouts to make the investment worthwhile. 

i only know of 1 more defenite and he got it a week before camp so we were not even in the gym when he tried it...didnt help we lost the first 6 games and he was still a puss

[70_dc_alum]

Bengals take the cake as the most frustrating team in the world...at least Ohio State can put a team away

[SaintsFAN]

OK, so there's some girl that I hung out with (but not really dated) while I was a sophomore and junior at Thomas More (yes THAT long ago).  We parted on bad terms as I got tired of BS and some of other stuff....total hotness though. 

Well today she has her sister email me somehow, someway and saying that she would really want to reknew acquaintances...and didn't email me herself because she wants to have me softened up (she knows me well)..

  I'm putting it up to the group...I can take it or leave it...(as Adam knows)

What do you think?

[tepee]

I say leave it, she might have some kind of revenge planed.  Adam knows you can take it or leave it?  That's too much info!

[SaintsFAN]

hahaha.....

+Karma, tepee...

Meaning he knows what I work around here...