FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[dc_has_been]

With two back to back losses Wheaton will not get in at all.  For the North I'm guessing it will look like this:
1. Mount Union
2. Case
3. Wabash b/c of win over Franklin
4. Franklin
5. North Central b/c they won't put Franklin & MSJ against eachother in first round
6. MSJ
7. Concordia
8. Olivet

Personally I would have Franklin at 2, Wabash at 3, Case at 4, MSJ at 5, North Central 6 & leave the bottom 2 alone.

[altor]

I think MSJ will be #5 and NCC at #6, but you are correct with the matchups.  MSJ at Wabash, NCC and Franklin.

If these do turn out to be the matchups, MSJ got the short end.  I think everyone would agree that going to CWRU is better than going to Wabash.  Franklin still gets a CCIW opponent, but gets the opportunity to play them at home.

Of course, all this is speculation.  My head is really spinning now with all the possibilities.  Does Wheaton get in?  Does Capital get in?  If so, who moves out of region?  Does Capital go East or South?  Does Concordia move West?  Or does MSJ go South?  All these decisions really make an impact in matchups for next week.

[Mr. Ypsi]

WHEN games are lost is not (officially, at least) a criterion for selection.  I, too, thought Wheaton was probably 'toast', but just checked the latest update of SOS ane they have the highest scores of any 8-2 pool-C candidates.  Rumors of their 'death' may be greatly exaggerated!

[Adam Sayer]

1. MUC
2. CWR
3. FC
4. MSJ
5. Wabash
6. North Central
7. Concordia
8. Olivet

I don't care that Wabash beat FC...that was 8 weeks ago. What Have You Done For Me Lately???I'd rather MSj be the 6th or 7th seed and get away from MUC. Whomever, you beat who they pair you with. I think it will be like so. If the selection commitee selects Wabash as a higher seed than FC, they don't have any testicles. I know the head 2 head, but...8 weeks ago is a long time.

My Buckeyes lose to Juice....At least they won't get embarrassed in the national championship again and should beat Michigan. Something about a Tressel team says they wont lose 2 in a row. Sh!T happens, a BCS game for the 4th year in a row isn't bad and this team is all Juniors.

[Adam Sayer]

I cant help but see Case Western Reserve at the 2 slot and think "What the hell happend to the North Region?" They are a disgrace as a 2 seed. Who, in all reality, have they beat who is worth a damn? This is like putting a team in the BCS title game who beat the little sisters of the poor, blind, and deaf...not to mention stupid. They shouldn't get the 2 slot. Not by any means!!!!

[StillMSJ]

Mount Union Bracket
1. Mount Union (A)
2. Wabash (A)
3. Case Western Reserve (B)
4. Franklin (A)
5. Mt. St. Joseph (C)
6. North Central (A)
7. Capital (C)
8. Olivet (A)
Despite Wabash's loss, we kept them in the No. 2 slot, giving them the nod based on a significantly higher opponents' winning percentage. The traditional pairings get broken up here a little, as Mt. St. Joseph and Franklin wouldn't play again in the first round. Olivet travels to Mount Union, Capital to Wabash, North Central to Franklin and Mt. St. Joseph to Case.

According to D3football.com, MSJ doesn't have to travel to Wasbash.  Instead they get to face off against CWRU.  I would only hope that they are correct.  Franklin gets to host North Central at home where the bees sting opposing teams as they warm up.

Sayer, although I agree with you about CWRU, wouldn't putting them as a 2 seed be like pairing an unbeaten Boise State team against a Big 12 powerhouse Oklahoma team in a BCS bowl?...........
Just trying to make ya think.

[70_dc_alum]

only 2 positives that can come out of the OSU game:

1. just maybe there is a small chance some of those studs on Defense will pull a Mike Doss and come back to win it all (personally i think that was the last game for the Animal in the Shoe).

2. At least Michigan can't try to ruin a National Championship run

[fc_alum_84]

Franklin appears poised for a home game with NCC (very winnable) but gets the death slot in second round if they advance. There is still hope that the committee looks at recent lossess vs mid sept and strenght of schedule and keeps FC and Wabash above a 4. FC vs Wabash in a rematch to utlimately face Mount Union. That is what I am personally hoping for or even an MSJ upset of Wabash and and FC MSJ rematch at FC in the second round.

Propbably wont happend but you never know

[70_dc_alum]

Sayer WTF happened to the Park 53-0.  we may not be able to hang in D1 but Dayton has some pretty good small division schools.  At least The Park got to play at a sweet stadium in Northmont (my High School).  also Alter goes down in triple OT.

[Adam Sayer]

They played Marion Local (reigning D6 State Champs). My buddies went to the game and said Marion's team was lined up from 25 to 25 on the sidelines. They tried to count them and they had over 80 players...for a D5 school, that is insane. I did a little research and knew what to expect...so I decided to go to the MSJ game. I still didn't think it was going to be THAT bad though.

Had OSU won that game, I would have been a nervous wreck for next week. It was just one of those feelings you get when something isnt right. I do feel they will get screwed on the rankings and drop further than the other teams did when they lost. Regardless, I'm a lot more comfortable now that they did lose. I think you're correct about The Animal leaving. He won the Nagurski last year and will probably win all the defensive awards this year. He's not going to gain anything from staying. Pains me to say, but it's true.

[70_dc_alum]

Marion Local is stacked and have a lot of trophies to prove it.

Franklin and MSJ are in and i personally think it is a good bracket to make some waves.  MSJ ends up with the better run as they could get CASE in round 2.  eitherway how sweet would a HCAC quarterfinal rematch be??

first things first lets get 2 HCAC wins.

HEY PAT tell the D2 guy to quit talking with his hand!! i thought he was going to accidentally backhand you at the end

[Adam Sayer]

I do believe MSJ got the break being away from W&J and getting Wabash first. I'm not real sure on how good North Central is. They did win the CCIW so, obviously, they are solid. Not trying to say Wabash isn't good, beause they are, but I'd rather play them than a team from the CCIW due to recent circumstances. Plus, CWR may lose their first round setting up a favorable 2nd round game. MSJ is in a good situation.

Road Trip anyone?

[fc_alum_84]

MSJ did get a break getting Wabash and the Case bracket winner, but beating Wabash on the road is a tall order for MSJ.  MSJ will need to be much better than they were against Franklin and Defiance and be able to score 24 or more points.  The Little Giants can put up the points and they will attempt to pass all over MSJ.  wabash is very similar in talent and style as Franklin.

Franklin will need to play well and limit mistakes as NCC should be at the talent level of a MSJ.  Should be hard fought game.  Edge to FC being at home but not a huge edge in my opinion.

[dc_has_been]

Was anyone else suprised on the brackets?  I will be the third to agree as well that MSJ has it set up to make it to the regional finals.  Franklin does have a tough road to travel, but I think they have continued to improve throughout the season & will suprise a lot in the playoffs.  
I'm still not sold on Capital & feel like they got in on their name & conference.  

[Most Known, Unknown.]

Congrats to both FC AND MSJ, good first round games they both will play, whats the likely hood that, if both teams win, that they will meet in the second round, because both MSJ and FC can win their firdt round games. Its going to now come down to soild defense and who committs the fewest msitakes. My JR College team lost last night 59-57, no defense. The team they played, had the state leading rusher; he catty the ball 52 times, and 268 yards with 6 touchdown. what a game though!! Good luck to both MSJ and FC and congrats again!!