FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[formerd3db]

You guys might be right.  Although as I mentioned on the other board, Miles was emphatic about not going anywhere at the ESPN interview (at least right now ), but...we heard that many times from the likes of Saban and...as you say, Miles is a "Michigan Man".  Kelly is another one whose words "I take with a grain of salt" although I doubt Michigan will consider him - English and DeBord less likely also - the latter did not do well at Central Mich unlike Kelly.  Not sure of any other "hot" coaching names out there at present in the collegiate ranks and I am not sure Michigan would take someone from the NFL, although some of their current assistants came from there.

Also, let us know what is going on with the "Taylor situation" at DC.  Hopefully, it is not something extremely significant, that despite a temporary leave, would not allow him to return.

[SaintsFAN]

all 'smaller school coaches' looking to make the jump to a bigger school with more tradition and more importantly more pay are going to look no further than Louisville and Kragthorpe as a cautionary tale that its not always going to work out. 

Heard on the radio today that Kragthorpe is considering leaving U of L for SMU of all places.  Thats from an "inside source" at Louisville. 



haha, victory, I doubt ANY coach gets to go to the movies on a Saturday night.  I'm keeping my eye on Hanover.  Whoever* takes the job is going to have Wayne Perry on hand to help him with the administrative side of rebuilding or awakening, if you will, that HCAC football power.

[KYGrizzly]

Heard on the radio today that Kragthorpe is considering leaving U of L for SMU of all places.  Thats from an "inside source" at Louisville. 

That is what they are reporting on down here in Louisville. They are saying that Kragthorpe can not stand the pressure here. There is also reports that SMU says that they have not contacted Kragthorpe or Tom Jurich about the opening.
It's funny how some of these Louisville fans thought they were a national power with the likes of Florida and Ohio State.

[KYGrizzly]

Also wanted to wish everyone on here and their families a Happy Thanksgiving.

Going to be leaving work here early today to meet the guys for our annual pre thanksgiving meal and refreshments and hOOters.

HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE

[victorybell_57]

who would have thought Louisville was a pressure packed environment? i guess it all is nowadays.

who do you guys think is next in line at hanover?

[SaintsFAN]

heard its down to Kragthorpe, Kelly or Leonard at Hanover.  In THAT order.  We'll see if the first two turn down the Panthers.... 

[formerd3db]

Well, I guess that attitude is what was left from the crazy John L. Smith era when he left for Michigan State.  Although he had success at Louisville (and this is just my own opinion), I would have waited the 3-4 years more to see if that trend would have continued.  Perhaps they liked John L's "shennanigans" down at U of L, however, they got tired of them and the confusion and unorganized aspects that happened up here at MSU.  Coach K (under him, is that correct?) seemed to slip into a "set" situation at Louisville.

On the other hand, just because U of L had a less than stellar year this year, doesn't mean they can't compete with the other "big time" schools.  They have and I would put it similar to that of Boise State, Northwestern, South Florida, etc.,etc.  They will have some great years. and some "off" years and can contend for a Top Ten rating at the end of each year in some cases, but is not always going to be a powerhouse year in and year out.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens.  Also, SMU does need a "shot in the arm".  They've improved, but not yet recovered from the "death penalty" those years ago.

[Adam Sayer]

If I'm Les Miles and I'm considering Michigan, I'm gonna lie to the media, my players, my fans...everyone except the Big Whigs from Michigan, behind closed doors. That may make me seem like a heartless POS, but it beats dealing with rumors and it keeps my players focused on the goal at hand...playing in front of a home crowd for a national championship. If I create distractions, I'm costing my players a chance to play for something special. The LSU DC is already rumored to be leaving for Nebraska or somewhere else and he does have a clause in his contract regarding his leaving for Michigan...no other college is listed. This guy's roots are deep in Ann Arbor.

Be honest, I don't think there is anyone else besides Brian Kelly and Les Miles, who Michigan really wants.

[wally_wabash]

The rumors and the distractions will be there until the thing is settled.  You can't believe a single word one college coach says about his interest or non-interest in a job, particularly when that guy is the leading candidate (or seemingly the only candidate) for one of the higher profile jobs in the nation. 

Miles can stand in front of reporters and not answer questions or say things like "I'm the coach at LSU and I'm not talking about anything else" until he's blue (and maize) in the face, but the questions are going to keep coming relentlessly.  The only way the questions stop is if the University of Michigan comes out and says flatly that Miles isn't a candidate and that they have no interest in hiring him. 

[Blutarsky]

There's a really interesting website that has actual copies of head coach contracts at public colleges (it's public information)--www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm

Contained in Les Miles' contract (dated 1/25/05) is a provision for him to break his contract with LSU.  He must pay the university $500,000 if he doesn't fulfill his contract.......however, the figure is $1,250,000 if he breaks the contract to specifically go to Michigan!  

I'm guessing is Michigan REALLY wants him, they'll pay it.

[wabashcpa]

Also, SMU does need a "shot in the arm".  They've improved, but not yet recovered from the "death penalty" those years ago.

It is strange that they have never really come back from those sanctions, and that was over 20 years ago!  Still remember Eric Dickerson and Craig James - the Pony Express - they had some good teams in the early '80's.  Makes you wonder how new programs like South Florida can become competitive quickly, yet SMU can't get over that hump. 

[wally_wabash]

There's a really interesting website that has actual copies of head coach contracts at public colleges (it's public information)--www.coacheshotseat.com/SalariesContracts.htm

Contained in Les Miles' contract (dated 1/25/05) is a provision for him to break his contract with LSU.  He must pay the university $500,000 if he doesn't fulfill his contract.......however, the figure is $1,250,000 if he breaks the contract to specifically go to Michigan!  

I'm guessing is Michigan REALLY wants him, they'll pay it.

Michigan's boosters haven't had trouble coming up with money for athletics (within the boundaries of NCAA regs...or not) in the past, this won't be a problem (unless everybody is way overestimating how bad they want Miles). 

[KYGrizzly]

Coach Kragthorpe just had a news conference and is staying at the University of Louisville. All the Cardinal fans here at work are upset that he is staying.

[SaintsFAN]

its easy, wabashcpa....all Texans are cheaters. 

JK, I know I remember reading somewhere that you live down there.


I do think its crazy they haven't been able to compete since the death penalty.  You'd think with the great football played in TX, they'd be able to produce a good team from time to time.  Like South Florida has.  They don't get the blue chip recruits....but they get some darn good secondary ones that want to stay in state and play football. 

[SaintsFAN]

Coach Kragthorpe just had a news conference and is staying at the University of Louisville. All the Cardinal fans here at work are upset that he is staying.

So he's not going to take the Hanover job?  That narrows it to two guys from my list..

I think you can also take this with a grain of salt.  If he stays....does he get his pick of who is on his coaching staff and get rid of the Petrino holdovers?  If he doesn't...I don't see him sticking around.  Too much off the field crap this year for the Cardinals.