FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

Started by Adam Sayer, December 24, 2006, 10:01:33 PM

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dc_has_been

LionsDen, that's my point about Stallworth.  Giants may not be focused on him allowing the Patriots to expose thier D.  Not much was thought about Welker in the beginning of the season & now he is considered a major threat.
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SaintsFAN

agreed has_been...this stuff with Randy Moss talking about needing to catch the ball this Sunday after weeks of silence...its a trick.  He'll be a decoy because the Giants are going to focus on him...esp after the 17th week meeting they had.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

Adam Sayer

The Giants do have the ability to rush 4 and drop 7 and get pressure on TB. Even though Moss will be double covered through most the night (treated as a decoy), they still have 5 DB's to cover 4 receiving options. If the G-Men can't pressure TB with their 4 linemen, then they will have problems. Now you're blitzing LB's and DB's and have to play man to man or a very loose zone allowing TB to pick you apart.

The Patriots defense has shown their age as well. They have given up some points and I believe I heard on ESPN that if they win, they will have the highest ppg average of any Super Bowl winner.

The Giants will score because they have a damn good run game and a QB, who isn't great, but is starting to learn to manage a football game and can make a play or two. The key will be, can they pressure TB with 4 D-linemen? If they can't, and the Pat's O-line is winning the battle, NY will lose BIG...like 35-20 big. If the G-Men's D can get to TB, then I still think the Pats win, but its a great game...24-20.

Another factor in this game is psychological. It's very hard at every level to go undefeated. It's more likely for a team to have a let down during the season (week 10-16) than during the Super Bowl. You have too much to play for at this point to have a let down. If you look, The Pats had some very close games during those weeks against bad teams...but they still won. The 1985 Bears, lost once, during the same span of games. I can't see a scenario, other than a Nuclear War, where the '72 Dolphins will be cracking open any Champaign.
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Adam Sayer

I'm not interested in The Park's job because athletically, they are not committed to winning. They've had some good teams the last 2 years in Football and Basketball and just about any Male sport, but that is all due to 1 class of phenominal athletes. DP is a Division 5 school who had 20 seniors on the team...90% of whom played since Freshman year and are studs in other sports.

Before this class were juniors and seniors, Deer Park went 6 consecutive years without a winning record in football (dating back to the year after I graduated when they went 1-9). From the 1993 season-1999 (my senior year), Deer Park only had 1 losing season but no league championships. Put it this way, The Park has been playing in the CHL since 1981 and they have had ONE male sport win a team championship...THIS YEAR'S Basketball team.

I have a lot of animosity towards the way the Athletics are ran at DP. I tried to establish something in the wrestling program my last year their...a new attitude that winning is important. I yelled and carried on. Result, we had the best "wrestling team" in Deer Park history 4 CHL champs and 2 runner-ups. My result...I was fired for being "unprofessional" as they called it. Mediocrity is ok by them. The girls basketball coach has never been .500 yet he's been the coach for almost 10 years. No committment to winning...absolutely NONE!
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Adam Sayer

So far the Giants front 4 are getting the job done.
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LionsDen

thank you very much! i guess i am a profit. i said the Giants would win and boom they did. front 4 got it done as did Eli. That play in the last 2 min where Eli escaped the sack and threw it up to tyre was probably the best play i have seen! thats pure heart! they deserved every bit of that win!

M and L

 What a great weekend in the sports world!  Fights Saturday night down at Hooters, and then the Super bowl yesterday.

I wasn't to surprised that the G-men pulled it out.  They played well against the Pats in week 17, and then continued to carry that momentum through the playoffs.

I thought that was sweet how the players and coaches read the Declaration of Independence before the game.  Also the TV commercials weren't all that bad either.

victorybell_57

profit: to make money or wealth in some measurable way.
prophet: not the same as making money or wealth in some measurable way.

Adam Sayer

Eli made some plays, but normally, you don't suggest to your QB to just throw it up and pray. He made some bad decisions but the Pats didn't make him pay for it.
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D3_DPUFan

Quoteyou don't suggest to your QB to just throw it up and pray

semed to work just fine for brady and moss this season on many occassions. how many times did you see brady throw the ball into traffic or just launch it and have moss or gaffney or even welker made a miraculous catch? you gotta have receivers who make plays. eli made plenty of great reads...playing a solid game on the biggest stage...

SaintsFAN

I would like to say that I saw it coming last night....maybe not to that extent, I thought it would be a shootout, but none the less my life is a little bit more en-riched now because of the result. 

You know how the old saying goes...
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2

cave2bens

Quote from: SaintsFAN on February 04, 2008, 10:57:24 AM
... but none the less my life is a little bit more en-riched now because of the result. 

You know how the old saying goes...

Yeah, "like don't change horses in the middle of the stream (or streak)?"  
Belichek never should have sacrificed his ratty, gray hoodie for the new, logo'd scarlet one.  We've seen the scarlet and gray sacrifices in recent, big games  >:( ;D
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Adam Sayer

Eli did ok...but he should have been picked 2 additional times not counting the fumbles...regardless, the fact that New England didn't make those big plays is the reason they lost. They had more than their fair share of opportunites.

I hate New England, but it would have been nice in 30 years to talk to my kids/grandkids about watching history and being able to claim I saw the greatest team in NFL history play.

A little history: The Pats are the third team in NFL history to go undefeated and lose their last game joinging the Bears, who did it twice. Someone look up the exact years but I think it was 1927 and 1943.
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Mr. Ypsi

Adam, it was 1942 and 1934 for the Bears.

SaintsFAN

very nice, bens.  I thought the same thing when I saw him...then again, I was looking for anything to make me feel better about things once the game started.
AMC Champs: 1991-1992-1993-1994-1995
HCAC Champs: 2000, 2001
PAC Champs:  2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016
Bridge Bowl Champs:  1990-1991-1992-1993-1994-1995-2002-2003-2006-2008-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013 (SERIES OVER)
Undefeated: 1991, 1995, 2001, 2009, 2010, 2015
Instances where MSJ quit the Bridge Bowl:  2