FB: Heartland Collegiate Athletic Conference

[D3_DPUFan]

Based upon last years stats from Hanover's website, http://www.hanover.edu/docs//athletics/fbteamcume.htm,  I would assume Elbert & Thiems would split time.

Does anyone know when the HCAC's media day is?

Thank you...anybody know if Alex Kiel is still there? I believe he got some time at QB as a freshman...but haven't heard anything since...

[FCALUM_84]

Preseason D3.com Poll

1 Mount Union (19) 14-1 618 2 N/A  Open Date
2 UW-Whitewater (5) 14-1 567 1 N/A  Open Date
3 Wesley (1) 11-2 557 5 N/A  Open Date
4 Mary Hardin-Baylor 12-2 523 3 N/A  Open Date
5 Bethel 12-2 459 4 N/A  Open Date
6 St. John's 10-2 431 9 N/A  Open Date
7 Capital 8-3 413 13 N/A  Open Date
8 Muhlenberg 11-1 394 8 N/A  Open Date
9 Central 12-1 368 6 N/A  Open Date
10 St. John Fisher 11-2 363 7 N/A  Open Date
11 Wabash 11-2 321 10 N/A  Open Date [/b]
12 Salisbury 9-2 314 14 N/A  Open Date
13 Washington and Jefferson 10-1 293 17 N/A  Open Date
14 UW-Eau Claire 9-3 284 12 N/A  Open Date
15 North Central 9-3 265 11 N/A  Open Date
16 Ohio Northern 7-3 163 -- N/A  Open Date
17 Wheaton (Ill.) 8-2 160 -- N/A  Open Date
18 Ithaca 8-3 153 21 N/A  Open Date
19 Case Western Reserve 11-1 135 22 N/A  Open Date
20 Trinity (Texas) 9-2 131 16 N/A  Open Date
21 Franklin 9-2 130 18 N/A  Open Date
22 Cortland State 8-3 122 -- N/A  Open Date
23 Wartburg 8-2 119 20 N/A  Open Date
24 Redlands 8-2 108 25 N/A  Open Date
25 Mississippi College 8-2 72 -- N/A  Open Date
Others receiving votes: Curry 70, New Jersey 66, North Carolina Wesleyan 62, Millsaps 61, Linfield 58, Whitworth 48, Christopher Newport 43, UW-La Crosse 27, Montclair State 24, St. Olaf 23, Hardin-Simmons 20, RPI 18, Wittenberg 17, Rowan 17, Illinois Wesleyan 15, Albright 15, Hartwick 12, DePauw 11, St. Norbert 10, Hobart 9, Delaware Valley 7, Waynesburg 6, Dickinson 4, Concordia-Moorhead 4, Carthage 4, Randolph-Macon 3, Augsburg 3, Mt. St. Joseph 2, Hampden-Sydney 2, Carnegie Mellon 1

[dc_has_been]

isnt Paulding County Ohi where Defiance is?  I got a tickey driving over the FCDefiaNCE Game out 3 years ago and it was in Paulding County   64 in a 55 on US 24 with no traffic at 11am. State Police

Defiance is in Defiance County just north of Paulding County.  I'm really starting to question what they teach you at Franklin.  You do understand that there multiple counties in each state & b/c you get a ticket near a city doesn't actually mean that city belongs in that particular county.  Example, I was driving to Los Angeles from Michigan & got pulled over in Nebraska does not mean Los Angeles is in Nebraska.
In regards to your ticket, well 24 is a route that the Ohio Highway Patrol does not take lightly.  There are a lot of deaths on that road b/c people try to pass the semi's that frequent that route & get hit head on by cars coming from the opposite direction.  Plus there are several speed traps too.
Nice to see Franklin is in the top 25 as well as MSJ receiving a few votes also.  Hopefully all the HCAC schools will fare well against non-conference foes & help make the HCAC look even more respectful. 

[KYGrizzly]

Hey dc_has_bee did I miss something? How can you quote a post that isn't there?

I was fortunate while traveling on US 24 for the football and baseball games the last four years without getting a ticket. You had to be on the lookout for the local police around the town of Antwerp.

Congrats to Franklin on their top 25 ranking, am looking forward to them moving up in the polls this year. Talked to one of their returning defensive starters Saturday. He is looking forward to the season getting started.

[dc_has_been]

I'm just as amazed as you are KYGrizzly?  It was there earlier & now it is gone.  FCalum_84 is pure stealth!

[FCALUM_84]

I noticed that I didn't review prior and had various spelling errors etc. I dont know my ohio counties very well up north. I just remember paulding county as that is where I had to mail the ticket and the officer was a jacka$$.

I do know the cincy area well as i work there frequently.  plus FC has a chance to go down there and play MSJ on the road again this year.

FC has a tough two games to get started  Baldwin Wallace at home(no slouch and from same conference as Mt Union) and Butler on the road.  Butler is a D2 school (I think) regardless they pounded Hanover last year at Hanover (but so did FC)  should be a close one.

What is the word on MSJ? Compared to last season?

[dc_has_been]

Butler is a DI FCS (DI AA) school b/c of their strong basketball program.  They usually start their season off playing DIII or NAIA schools such as Hanover, Albion, or Tiffin.  I couldn't find the last time they had a winning season & that was from 2002 till present.  Anyway, I don't think Franklin will have to much trouble with them.  In regards to BW & Tri-State they will probably field pretty good teams, especially Tri-State who returns a lot of players from last year who went 6-4.


Any DC folk out there hear any news on DC's qb situation?  I would assume Joey Stephens would be the front runner considering he was the only other qb to take any snaps last year. 

[cave2bens]

I dont know my ohio counties very well up north. I just remember paulding county as that is where I had to mail the ticket and the officer was a jacka$$.

I do know the cincy area well as i work there frequently.  plus FC has a chance to go down there and play MSJ on the road again this year.

FC has a tough two games to get started  Baldwin Wallace at home(no slouch and from same conference as Mt Union) and Butler on the road.  Butler is a D2 school (I think) regardless they pounded Hanover last year at Hanover (but so did FC)  should be a close one.

Not knowing counties in northwestern Ohio calls for no self-flagellation - those of us who grew up in that giant corn maze, north of Dayton and west of I-75, maintained bearings by German Catholic edifices or local grain elevators.  What we would have given for a GPS come August.  

Franklin is somewhat fortunate with their preconference schedule.  According to the OAC media day, BW is slated to finish about sixth in their conference.  Trine, on the other hand, could be tough - they really found their form toward the end of last season, and with new digs, the Thunder could be a handful.  

Butler is an enigma - Horizon in basketball and Pioneer in football.  They lost about half of their starters from 2007's 4 and 7 season and won all four, out of conference games before going 0-7 in league. Pioneer League is diverse, geographically (Davidson, Dayton, Univ of San Diego, Drake, Missouri S+T (Rolla), Valparaiso, and Campbell).  Historically speaking, over 118 seasons, BU's record is 522-411-35 and from a comparative standpoint, only Notre Dame and Purdue have better all-time, in-state win percentage records than the Bulldogs versus a common opponent, Wabash (minimum of ten games).

Note that Danny Sears (FC '07) is Butler's WR coach - wonder if he'll move to the DB slot as a surprise for Coach L during week of the 13th?  

[FCALUM_84]

Tri State hasnt been a tough out to date for FC but it sounds like they may the toughest Thunder team FC has faced in the last few years since we started playing them.

Butler is a worry because they are hard to guage.  I still think it wnt be easy to get thru the non conference schedule unscathed.  With MSJ on the road again, matching last years record will be tough. 

That said, this FC team at least on paper at this time of year should be Leonard's best to date.  More depth and lots of key folks back.  RB is the biggest question along with replacements in the defensive backfield

[Mr. Ypsi]

Trine (the name change from Tri State became official on August 1, I believe) is an unknown.  They reportedly should be the best Thunder squad ever, but are still picked as second or third in the weak MIAA.

Bald Wally might be better than their pick - two media voters picked them to win the OAC (though their drug tests have not yet been posted).

[FCALUM_84]

if BW is good enough to finish second in that conference they will be hard to beat.  The HCAC is on the upswing but top to bottom not as good s the OAC.  We will see in about a month.  Fortunately the game is at our place

did not know abow the trine name change.  not sure i like it.

[SaintsFAN]

Bald Wally might be better than their pick - two media voters picked them to win the OAC (though their drug tests have not yet been posted).

Let me tell you...we have the results...  those two have tested positive for Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds....  hallucinations.  Should pass soon though.

[SaintsFAN]

I'm just as amazed as you are KYGrizzly?  It was there earlier & now it is gone.  FCalum_84 is pure stealth!

Sounds like he should've used this stealthy ability on 24 in OH. 

Sorry, couldn't resist..

[cave2bens]

Might want to check out the OAC board - seems the Indianoplace Star says Franklin is picked over Mt Union (OH) for the HCAC conference title   

And you were concerned with Bald Wallies, FC? 

[HScoach]

if BW is good enough to finish second in that conference they will be hard to beat.  The HCAC is on the upswing but top to bottom not as good s the OAC.  We will see in about a month.  Fortunately the game is at our place

did not know abow the trine name change.  not sure i like it.

BW has zero chance to finish 2nd in the OAC.  They'll be lucky to finish .500.  And when I set the spreads for the OAC Pick-Em's contest, Franklin will be the favorite.

Want to see what is expected of BW?  Check out the team-by-team OAC Preview at:

http://www.mtunionfootball.com/2008season/08oacpreview.htm