BB: SUNYAC

[Bob Maxwell]

This is my guess at the All-SUNYAC team:

First Team:
C    Ryan Myers (Oneonta) (POY - second)
1B   Kevin Jackson (Cortland) (POY – first)
2B   Josh Greco (Fredonia) (POY – third)
3B   Don Kirsch (Fredonia)
SS   Tory Bouyea (Plattsburgh)
OF   Jordan Basile (Fredonia)
OF   Mike Avery (Cortland)
OF   Todd Allen (Brockport)
DH   Jason Simone (Cortland)
RHP   Steve Juedes (Oneonta) (Pitcher of the Year)
LHP   Matt Tone (Cortland)

Second/third Teams:
C   Rob Herrmann (Fredonia)
   Anderson Gardner (Cortland)
1B   Tyler Terlecki (New Paltz)
   Max Zimmerman (Brockport)
Joe Curcio (Plattsburgh)
2B   Mike Meola (Brockport)
   Pat Shaughnessy (Plattsburgh)
3B   Chris Brady (Oneonta)
   Jason Michaels (Brockport)
Matt Kelly (Plattsburgh)
SS   Mike Levy (Oswego)
   Scott Dubben (Oneonta)
   Tom McCormick (Brockport)
OF   Chris Gentzke (Brockport)
OF   John Campbell (Plattsburgh)
OF   Bryan Stark (Oswego)   
   Jamie Rose (Brockport)
Dan Randel (Oneonta)
Josh Stoetzel (Fredonia)
   Bryan Bongiovanni (Fredonia)
DH   Kyle Kowalowski (Plattsburgh)
   Pete Lindner (Oneonta)
RHP   Dave Filak (Oneonta)
   Matt O'Leary (Plattsburgh)
LHP   Travis Ratliff (Cortland)
Ricky Carlson (Fredonia)

Just my opinion... 

[StagnantFLY]

Bob,
I agree with alot of your selections. I believe that if Juedes doesnt get SUNYAC pitcher of the year, its a joke. He has to be a lock for the Pitcher of Yr with NO EARNED RUNS in 30 plus innings. It seems to me that eevry year Cortland has the most players selected and some of the players in my eyes arent as good as other SUNYAC players that do not get the honor. Lets hope the comittee selects the most deserving players and not just who they play for

[Bob Maxwell]

From what I understand... the criteria is changed from years past.  In years past, some of the selections looked a little strange (how ever you want to put it...), but that was becasue the primary statistical considerations were the CONFERENCE ONLY stats... some guys had great years, but didn't do well in the conference games.  A perfect example is Dan Maycock a couple of years ago.  In past years the season stats were only used when two guys were even. 

that was hard for some of us to take as we only looked at the season stats and not the conference ones.

This year, that is different... as they are flipped around. 

It is still a really hard thing to do, but overall I think the coaches do their due diligence and come up with the correct team based on the criteria they are directed to follow.  It is hard to do...

Love to hear anyone elses prediction/opinion on the team.

[Smithers]

This is my guess at the All-SUNYAC team:

First Team:
C    Ryan Myers (Oneonta) (POY - second)
1B   Kevin Jackson (Cortland) (POY – first)
2B   Josh Greco (Fredonia) (POY – third)
3B   Don Kirsch (Fredonia)
SS   Tory Bouyea (Plattsburgh)
OF   Jordan Basile (Fredonia)
OF   Mike Avery (Cortland)
OF   Todd Allen (Brockport)
DH   Jason Simone (Cortland)
RHP   Steve Juedes (Oneonta) (Pitcher of the Year)
LHP   Matt Tone (Cortland)

Second/third Teams:
C   Rob Herrmann (Fredonia)
   Anderson Gardner (Cortland)
1B   Tyler Terlecki (New Paltz)
   Max Zimmerman (Brockport)
Joe Curcio (Plattsburgh)
2B   Mike Meola (Brockport)
   Pat Shaughnessy (Plattsburgh)
3B   Chris Brady (Oneonta)
   Jason Michaels (Brockport)
Matt Kelly (Plattsburgh)
SS   Mike Levy (Oswego)
   Scott Dubben (Oneonta)
   Tom McCormick (Brockport)
OF   Chris Gentzke (Brockport)
OF   John Campbell (Plattsburgh)
OF   Bryan Stark (Oswego)   
   Jamie Rose (Brockport)
Dan Randel (Oneonta)
Josh Stoetzel (Fredonia)
   Bryan Bongiovanni (Fredonia)
DH   Kyle Kowalowski (Plattsburgh)
   Pete Lindner (Oneonta)
RHP   Dave Filak (Oneonta)
   Matt O’Leary (Plattsburgh)
LHP   Travis Ratliff (Cortland)
Ricky Carlson (Fredonia)

Just my opinion… 

Bob,

Seems like you have everyone in the conference making these teams. I do agree on Juedes winning pitcher of the year. Seems like Player of the year might be open. Jackson could win it, the young man has had a great year. I think Avery might also have a shot at winning as well, but we will see.

I thnk coach of year has to go to Matt Palisin. I can't really say enough for what he has done with that program, building it from nothing to the point where they had a legitimate shot to host coming into the last weekend.

Cstate,

I see you have changed your tune on expierenced pitching...


This is always an interesting time for coaches, many of these teams that make the tournmanet have at least 2 legitimate starting pitchers. Do the coaches throw there 1 and 2 out there to try and get into the finals in the winners bracket or do they take a shot with a lesser guy and try and steal the first one and line themselves up with there 1 and 2 to win the semi's and the finals?

Who would be the top 3 guys for each team...This is what I think.

Plattsburgh
-O'Leary
-Kelley
-Campbell

Cortland
-Tone
-Ratliff
-Blanco

Brockport
-Shannon
-Gentzke
-Locke

Fredonia
-Carlson
-Hausler
-Saeva

Anyone have any other ideas about the pitching matchups of the weekend?

[Bob Maxwell]

There are a lot of guys named as they all do deserve consideration... but I did pick a first team.  And the second team was much harder.  What I did was name at least two guys in each position with the one I would put on the second team being the first one named.  The others are guys who I did consider and listed them because they were in the mix.

The player of the year was really tough... I had 5 guys in the mix, the three I named and Todd Allen (Brockport) and Jason Simone (Cortland).  Any one who is on the first team should be in the mix for this award...  but I arrived at the three I did based on their overall statistics.  Then I considered the roll they played in their teams dynamics... (from an outsiders view of course - the coaches may make stronger cases for any of the guys).

And a side note to that... I always do this... I mixed up Ryan Myers and Dan Randall when I looked at the conference statistics (I highlighted Dan's stats and not Ryan's).  So maybe Josh, Todd or Jason should jump ahead of him for the POY considerations.  But as I said, anyone on the first team should be considered... so I will stand by what I put in the post.  An argument can be made for all of them...

I agree with you on coach of the year.  Matt's team did a great job and had a terrific year!


Hope the tournament is as exciting and unpredictable as the season was!

[John McGraw]

This is my guess at the All-SUNYAC team:

First Team:
C    Ryan Myers (Oneonta) (POY - second)
1B   Kevin Jackson (Cortland) (POY – first)
2B   Josh Greco (Fredonia) (POY – third)
3B   Don Kirsch (Fredonia)
SS   Tory Bouyea (Plattsburgh)
OF   Jordan Basile (Fredonia)
OF   Mike Avery (Cortland)
OF   Todd Allen (Brockport)
DH   Jason Simone (Cortland)
RHP   Steve Juedes (Oneonta) (Pitcher of the Year)
LHP   Matt Tone (Cortland)

Second/third Teams:
C   Rob Herrmann (Fredonia)
   Anderson Gardner (Cortland)
1B   Tyler Terlecki (New Paltz)
   Max Zimmerman (Brockport)
Joe Curcio (Plattsburgh)
2B   Mike Meola (Brockport)
   Pat Shaughnessy (Plattsburgh)
3B   Chris Brady (Oneonta)
   Jason Michaels (Brockport)
Matt Kelly (Plattsburgh)
SS   Mike Levy (Oswego)
   Scott Dubben (Oneonta)
   Tom McCormick (Brockport)
OF   Chris Gentzke (Brockport)
OF   John Campbell (Plattsburgh)
OF   Bryan Stark (Oswego)   
   Jamie Rose (Brockport)
Dan Randel (Oneonta)
Josh Stoetzel (Fredonia)
   Bryan Bongiovanni (Fredonia)
DH   Kyle Kowalowski (Plattsburgh)
   Pete Lindner (Oneonta)
RHP   Dave Filak (Oneonta)
   Matt O'Leary (Plattsburgh)
LHP   Travis Ratliff (Cortland)
Ricky Carlson (Fredonia)

Just my opinion... 

Bob,

This looks like the Don Hansen's Football Gazette All-America team 8)

[tripleplay9]

Bob, spot on with first team. Also agree with Palisin coach of the year. Pretty much a no-brainer.

[cstate19]

Cstate,

I see you have changed your tune on expierenced pitching...

I didn't change. Originally I said it didnt matter and I thought O'Leary could handle Game 1.  I still think he can.  I am adopting more to the Coach brown theory of your #2 in Game 1 and your #1 in game 2.  The same thought Mr. Maxwell expressed.  Experience is helpful but not the most important.  The dam n 2003 Marlins proved that.  Freakin Beckett and Burnett. 

[StagnantFLY]

anyone disagree with Bob's 1st team selections?

[sergispie]

We are only 2 days from the first pitch of the tourney. I can't wait for this years tourney to start. Who is going to win this year? You have to favor Cortland as always because of the pitching staff they have. But you can't count out a team like Fredonia or Brockport. Plattsburgh could get its first sunyac win this year if they out slug a team. It will be interesting how this goes. Does anyone think Cortland will get a bid if they do not win the sunyac?

[John McGraw]

We are only 2 days from the first pitch of the tourney. I can't wait for this years tourney to start. Who is going to win this year? You have to favor Cortland as always because of the pitching staff they have. But you can't count out a team like Fredonia or Brockport. Plattsburgh could get its first sunyac win this year if they out slug a team. It will be interesting how this goes. Does anyone think Cortland will get a bid if they do not win the sunyac?

It depends on what happens nationally. The Dragons regional record is decent enough but this isn't the year IMO to leave it to the hands of the committee, especially with a handful of regional losses lately including to conference opponents, Ithaca and Keystone (2) plus the loss earlier this year to Montclair. I would say no to get in with an at-large depending on when they'd be eliminated. If it's before the finals then no and if it's in the finals, I'd go maybe at the best.

[Dave Bradley]

I think Bob is right on with his 1st team all SUNYAC and I agree with Steve Juedes as Pitcher of the year, Not only did he have a ERA of 0.00 in the conference games but he didn't allow a run unearned as well. He also leads in ERA overall at 1.77, if it holds up he will have won that ERA title 2 straight years as he won it last season at 2.11. In my opinion he got the shaft last year when he didn't get named to any all conference teams. Just incredible to me that Ferchen had possibly the Pitcher of the year and Dave Filak who probably will make a All- conference team and Jeff Carter the Freshman pitcher from Clifton Park won won 6 games and could be rookie of the year plus a better hitting team then they have had recently and Oneonta doesn't make the tourney, just a horrible job of managing in my opinion, the two games that just stand out in my mind is blowing a 6-0 lead in plattsburgh and a 5-1 lead in Oswego.

[AlleyCat]

I believe that Cortland is 20-8 in region right now. Thats not a bad in region record(.714) What is the criteria that the committee has used in past years for in region winning pct? Are they looking for a specific # or do they actually base it on OWP?

Ithaca - 17-4((.810)
RPI 25-7(.781)
Are the top 2 in winning %

[Bob Maxwell]

While the winning percentage means you are successful, they use a point system that is tied to the record of the team that you win or lose against.  A couple years ago they added to that a way to consider the strenght of schedule of the opponents of the teams you played too.

BUT as a starting point using a teams winning percentage is a good conversation point.

Based on records of teams in region, I don't see a team from NY getting a bid unless they win their conference.  Im disappointed that teams from ohter regions will be brought in to fill out the field, but to stop that from happening teams just have to win against a strong schedule.

I can't wait for the tournament either...

[jack31]

For the pitching matchups this weekend, I think Plattsburgh might see Assman or whoever their numbner three is.  I don't know why but that is my feeling.  Maybe because Plattsburgh hasn't seen him and Coach Brown wants to save his 1 and 2 for later games but that is what i believe happens.