BB: SUNYAC

[airball55]

I am in agreement with the Truth man on this one.  I think Oneonta is a solid pick and I have been kind of lobbying for them all along.  As previously stated on the LL board, two wins against Cortland and one against Fisher make them a solid pick.  Is it the Filak show or do they actually have a shot on winning another game or two??  Red Dragons everywhere in Auburn.

[Pat Coleman]

any information on what teams are in each pool and the whos playin who where and times yet?

No game times yet, but the list of who was in the tournament was available on the front page of D3baseball.com when you posted this message.

[cstate19]

There is a joke to be made about Truthfinder being "premature".

Seriously I am sort of glad that PBurgh not getting in only because if they did Truth might have went Ray Finkle on us and captured Doorey and the Cardinal mascot.

[Truthfinder]

Doorey tells the Plattsburgh paper that the Cardinals were the first team out, and that Oneonta was the last team to get into the field.

"Fifty-five teams make the tournament and we were actually 56," said Doorey.

"For most of the season, we were ranked No. 2 or 3 in the New York Region and Oneonta was never ranked ahead of us. It hurts."

"I'm sure there are people on the committee who have never heard of Plattsburgh."

I could say a lot of things here, but Plattsburgh fans, you deserve better.

[RSSmith]

any information on what teams are in each pool and the whos playin who where and times yet?

No game times yet, but the list of who was in the tournament was available on the front page of D3baseball.com when you posted this message.

Game times for an 8-team tournament are prescribed in the handbook.  http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=6787.0

[scscoach]

I'm at the regionals and I watched all eight teams play the four Day One games. I might get bashed on here for saying this but, Plattsburgh should be here.

[easy_money 3]

I watched mostly 3 of the games from yesterday, and I do not understand how you can say Plattsburgh should be here, did you not see how awful their pitching staff was in the conference tournament? I give their coach credit to some extent by playing the hand he was dealt. He gets kids who throw strikes, put the ball in play, and play defense. Thats the bare minimum you need to win ball games and they do have it. I just totally disagree with the statement that they should be here, but also the oneonta farmingdale game was one of the worst displays of baseball I have ever seen so I hope you just made that statement out of utter disgust

[onesix3]

I agree Easy! You can't pass judgment solely on one game.These two teams deserve better than that. I believe Cortland had to kick a field goal to tie Manhattanville.Granted you don't want to play your poorest game at the end of the year,but sh#t happens.         Buuuut......... It sure was ugly!

[scscoach]

I'm very new to D3 Baseball, so my opinions should be taken very lightly. It just seems like Plattsburgh would have competed very well in the regionals. Alot is made of their team ERA being high, but they still won 30 games. Some major league teams have won world series despite below average pitching. The bottom line is if you win not how you win. Should a team that wins 2-1 be considered better than a team that wins 12-11?

[magicman]

I'm very new to D3 Baseball, so my opinions should be taken very lightly. It just seems like Plattsburgh would have competed very well in the regionals. Alot is made of their team ERA being high, but they still won 30 games. Some major league teams have won world series despite below average pitching. The bottom line is if you win not how you win. Should a team that wins 2-1 be considered better than a team that wins 12-11?

scscoach,
You may be new to D3 Baseball but there's certainly nothing new about your knowledge of sports. Your coaching experience alone puts you head and shoulders above a large number of the posters who come on this board or other New York Region sites. I value your opinion and objectivity a great deal more than posters who come on and spout off about teams and coaches with blanket statements that have no factual basis. I'm sure over the next three years (at the very least) you'll be a welcome and valuable contributor to D3 baseball. Welcome aboard, coach.     

[easy_money 3]

coach, your entitled to your opinion just as anyone else is in this board, I am new to the boards myself. I also agree with your statement about the 2-1 or 12-11, they are both wins but when it comes down to tournament play most games arent that high scoring pitching is needed especially to win tournaments, there is a reason plattsburgh is 1-16 (quoting truthfinder im not sure myself) in the SUNYAC tournament. Also the reason their games are 12-11 is for the reason that they play The School of the Recently Deceased (again quoting truthfinder) I understand your logic in retrospect I just simply disagree with you on the statement they should be in regionals thats all.

[pudge27]

This is a pretty interesting conversation.  Question you need to ask, whether it be for Plattsburgh or UR or whomever is:  Do they DESERVE to be there or could they compete IF they were there.  Big difference.  Another thing to keep in mind is that there are really very few at large bids to be had and bad things can happen when you leave it up to someone else. 

I agree with the coach that 30 wins is a lot and you should consider the body of work BUT, it's human nature to put a little extra weight to how a team finishes. 

[Ralph Turner]

Welcome coach!  Always glad to have new posters on the boards.

The hardest thing for new D-III fans to comprehend, especially those who see multi-conference bids to the Big East/SEC/Big 12 to D-1 Men's Basketball "March Madness", is how hard the at-large bids are to get in D-III.

Plattsburgh was probably the next team from the NY region among the last 8 teams considered for the 15th and last bid.  You can almost point to one game as being the reason that a team did not make the playoffs.  After the automatic qualifiers are awarded, there are still 320 teams that are left in Pool C.  There are only 15 bids to Pool C.

Many of us now view the conference tourneys with the 200+ teams that are invited to the conference tourneys as the first step on the road to the D3 Series.

[wordsmith]

Welcome coach!  Always glad to have new posters on the boards.

The hardest thing for new D-III fans to comprehend, especially those who see multi-conference bids to the Big East/SEC/Big 12 to D-1 Men's Basketball "March Madness", is how hard the at-large bids are to get in D-III.

Plattsburgh was probably the next team from the NY region among the last 8 teams considered for the 15th and last bid.  You can almost point to one game as being the reason that a team did not make the playoffs.  After the automatic qualifiers are awarded, there are still 320 teams that are left in Pool C.  There are only 15 bids to Pool C.

Many of us now view the conference tourneys with the 200+ teams that are invited to the conference tourneys as the first step on the road to the D3 Series.

Ralph,

Thanks for that explanation/commentary. It helps me to better understand some of the decisions made each year. I have followed the selection process for many years and would say the Selection Committee does an excellent job of considering all the options.

I would think it is becoming increasing easier and yet increasing more difficult to make those last few selections, given the internet/internet TV broadcasts/D3Boards etc.

Easier in the sense information and communication flows and is shared more quickly; more difficult because now 'everyone', due to the same type of access, is an 'expert'.

D3 Baseball is such an exciting brand of competition. Great competition, great committment, great passion, great value. Cannot go wrong.

Thanks again. Keep up the good work.

Word

[scscoach]

Welcome coach!  Always glad to have new posters on the boards.

The hardest thing for new D-III fans to comprehend, especially those who see multi-conference bids to the Big East/SEC/Big 12 to D-1 Men's Basketball "March Madness", is how hard the at-large bids are to get in D-III.

Plattsburgh was probably the next team from the NY region among the last 8 teams considered for the 15th and last bid.  You can almost point to one game as being the reason that a team did not make the playoffs.  After the automatic qualifiers are awarded, there are still 320 teams that are left in Pool C.  There are only 15 bids to Pool C.

Many of us now view the conference tourneys with the 200+ teams that are invited to the conference tourneys as the first step on the road to the D3 Series.

Thanks for explaining it that way. You make great points. As I said earlier, I am very new to D3 baseball but find it extremely exciting and am anxious to learn more about it.