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Started by Ralph Turner, January 19, 2007, 02:51:19 PM

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Bob Maxwell

Two good wins for Brockport... and two tough losses for Cortland.

But it is nothing to get to elated over or to low about either... it is early in the season and there is a lot of baseball to be played still.  Both of these teams are most likely going to be in the SUNYAC tournament so this is just a beginning.

What it does do, is it does make for a different outlook on the conference season... but there are still games to be played and won.  You still have to focus and play each game as it comes, or what you did yesterday doesn't mean anything...


Hope the rain holds off tomorrow!

Anyone have any information on the Oneonta - SUNYIT games?
OR some box scores for the Fredonia - Oswego games?


Spree

its always cortlands defense that does them in...the D has been pretty terrible over there for quite some time.  They have the pitching and offense...do something with your defense Joe Brown...a supposed national power house doesnt have fielding problems, especially at one of the best infields in the NY region like Brockport.

John McGraw

Saturday SUNY scores

Brockport 4 Cortland 2
Brockport 9 Cortland 2

Plattsburgh 6 New Paltz 5 (10)...Plattsburgh came back from deficits of 2-0 and 5-4 to score an unearned run on a wild pitch in the tenth. NP committed four errors. Pre-season watch list pitcher Kevin Gent gave up five runs on five hits in seven innings and walked six with no strikeouts.
New Paltz 1 Plattsburgh 0...Jim Donahue for NP tossed a complete-game one-hitter to provide for the split. John DeKams drove in the Hawks only run in the sixth inning. Matt Dahlin allowed five hits over 5.1 innings after tossing three innings in the opener. Coach Doorey must be using the Japanese method for handling pitchers in letting Dahlin pitch twice.

Fredonia 8 Oswego 4
Fredonia 5 Oswego 4...No details available. Oswego doesn't even have 2007 statistics posted yet. Perioli is listed on the roster, no clue if he's playing.

Oneonta 18 SUNYIT 7
Oneonta 12 SUNYIT 4...No details, no box. Games were played at SUNYIT.

Your SUNYAC standings!

Brockport         2-0
Oneonta          2-0
Fredonia          2-0
Plattsburgh      1-1
New Paltz        1-1
Cortland           0-2
Oswego           0-2
SUNYIT             0-2


John McGraw

Sunday SUNYAC scores

Brockport at Oswego PPD RAIN...Monday make-up

Cortland 17 Fredonia 6
Game 2 PPD RAIN....Monday make-up

Oneonta 7 Plattsburgh 6
Plattsburgh 5 Oneonta 1

SUNYIT 9 New Paltz 6
New Paltz 15 SUNYIT 5

SUNY Standings
Brockport 2-0; Oneonta 3-1; Fredonia 2-1; New Paltz 2-2; Plattsburgh 2-2; Cortland 1-2; SUNYIT 1-3; Oswego 0-2

Bob Maxwell

John,

Peroli played left field today... that is if the roster that was printed matched the unifrom numbers.  There was no PA at the game today.  Probably they didn't want to risk getting it wet.  IT RAINED from the time they started thought out the entire 6.1 innings that were played.

It drizzled for a short time... but really started to come down in the third.  It should have been halted when the Oswego 3B slipped and did a slide on the grass in the top of the 5th...  the grass was really wet and the balls were hard to control... by both the pitchers and the infielders. 

Its 2-2 in the bottom of the sixth, scheduled to resume Monday at 3:00... but forecast is for more rain.  And the field is saturated so I am not confident they will play.


Looks like some other games were played today... and some interesting results.

Bob Maxwell

oops... they only played 5.1 innings.

BUT it still rained the entire time, regardless of how many they played...  ;)

John McGraw

Rain's better than snow :-)


jdex

Cortland's M. Zaccardo 3 hr, 7bi in 3x5 bats. Has 6 hr on season.

Corts 17-18-0, Freds 6-10-6. Red Dragons up 11-0; Freds strike for five in 7th after turning triple play in sixth. CSt runners on second and third. Fly out to right; runner gets caught straying from second and when Dragon on third heads for home he gets tagged out attempting to scramble back to third

M. Zgorzelski (w, 4-0) 6 inn, 5h, 5bb, 5k. M. Vitalone 3x5, 3bi; J. Russo 3x5, bi; J. Basnight 2x4, hr; A. Coromato 2x4, bi; S. Caughey 2x3, 2r, bi. Freds P. Gavin, K. Adams, K. Malaney 2 hits apiece; Gavin 2bi. LOB: Freds 13, Corts 10

hitforthecycle

According to Spree, "its always cortlands defense that does them in...the D has been pretty terrible over there for quite some time.  They have the pitching and offense...do something with your defense Joe Brown...a supposed national power house doesnt have fielding problems, especially at one of the best infields in the NY region like Brockport."

Spree, you have no idea what you're talking about.  Go take a look at Cortland's fielding percentage.  I believe its .966 which is very respectable.  Saying that their defense has been terrible for sometime is an ignorant statement but I wouldn't expect anything less from you.  Anyone who knows the game of baseball would probably agree that solid pitching and defense is what makes for success.  "Pretty terrible defense over the years" doesn't equate with the success that their program has had for some time now.  Also, who says that national powers play flawless defense the whole season?  For example, Marietta won the national championship fielding .962 so your comment is an uninformed, non-objective, and moronic opinion.  By the way, you gave yourself away as being a moron when you said that Brockport has one of the best infields in the NY region.  Keep the laughs coming dude!   

bportalum99

brockport's infield is one of the best in new york. best in sunyac for sure.  every since they redid that field it has been one of the  best playing surfaces in new york state.  there is now ay an logical person can argue this!  I hope you misunderstood him thinking he was saying the players are the best in ny not the playing surface.

hitforthecycle

I can read thanks and I certainly would never make that mistake.  Anyway, I'll go ahead and give you the infield if you want but the enitre complex as a whole is nothing more than a glorified high school field.  How about a windscreen?   

Spree

i didnt say the field complex was good...but the playing surface is prob top 3 in the NY and is arguably the best.  tell me who's is better?

I dont care what cortlands defensive stats are...go back through a lot of big games they have lost and tell me what does them in and its errors.  They have the pitching and the defense, but when they lose big games its because of errors.  I didnt say they were terrible in all of there games...and yes i know it came off that way but i didnt mean that.  I meant when they lose, its because of poor defense.


Spence

.966 is really good but defense isn't *that* easily measured. I struggle with how to do it, myself. Because you can field a great percentage but if you have phone-booth range it maybe isn't as good as someone who makes more errors but gets to a lot more balls.

And then of course there's the interpretation of the official scorers that can skew such numbers, which is part of why I prefer not to put too much stock in things that can be skewed by it, like ERA and batting average.

Not saying Cortland doesn't have a good defense, not saying it does. Just saying one number it's enough to really say. I will say this though, assuming a team has average or better range defensively, .966 is an average I'd take every time.

I'd be surprised if Marietta's .962 wasn't a lot better than that during the end of the year... they only committed more than 1 error in a game 3 times after April 25. They committed 12 errors in the season-opening 3-game debacle in Salisbury, Md., feature gale force winds and near freezing temps. One player committed 5 errors in 3 games and was later replaced in the lineup.

Being the smart coach he is, Brewer scheduled 3 in Georgia this year lol.

My point I guess is that .962 by the end of the year was very misleading and I consider Marietta's defense pivotal to its championship and by the end of the year one of the best the program's had in a long time.

JQV

Quote from: Spree on April 02, 2007, 12:10:49 AM
i didnt say the field complex was good...but the playing surface is prob top 3 in the NY and is arguably the best.  tell me who's is better?

Freeman Field


Spree

In my defense....look for example in the 2nd Brockport game from Saturday.  5 Cortland errors.

In my opinion every SUNYAC game is a big game (yes even vs New Paltz, Fredonia, IT).

Going through their "biggest" games last year in the region (SUNYAC Conference Schedule, vs Ithaca, SUNYAC Tourny, and Regionals) Cortlands defense was pretty bad.

SUNYAC Regular season schedule: 22 errors in 14 games.

vs Ithaca: 5 errors in 2 games

SUNYAC Tournament: 12 errors in 5 games (including 6 in the Final Round)

Regionals: 6 errors in 4 games (including 5 in the Final Round which led to their demise)

All I'm trying to say is Cortland's D better come up big in their biggest games or its going to cost them.