BB: SUNYAC

Started by Ralph Turner, January 19, 2007, 02:51:19 PM

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StagnantFLY

Well thats a big statement by Oneonta. To go to William Paterson and win makes them a legit contender. Oneonta takes on Fredonia and Brockport this weekend to open up the SUNYAC conference. Predictions?

bball 14

Cortland has been having some problems ....... they will get them straight.....  they have some young players with tons of ability and some confidence issues, both at bat and defense.....those errors and k's have a way of giving young players the yips in the field and at bat...... i'm sure coach brown and his staff will build these guys up and you'll see a much better team by seasons end........ just my 2 cents










Big Louie

Any thoughts on how the SUNYAC might shape up as the first conference games approach this weekend?

Bob Maxwell

Some velry good games this week... and it looks like there may be some mixing of the order in NY, not just in the SUNYAC, but in all the confernces in the region.   As N Eagle fan, I sure hope Brockport can turn it around and be part of it at the end!

The Liberty League has had some conference games already, here we go this weekend!!!

StarvinMarvin

Two more errors for Cortland's shortstop Pezzuto.  They sweep Oswego but until they find a shortstop who can field, it's gonna be tough sailing.  Pezzuto has made at least one error in the last seven games or so.  How is this kid being allowed to play short? 

Bob Maxwell

there is a live video feed of the Brockport at Oneonta game on the Oneonta web site.
http://www.oneonta.edu/academics/athletics/

John McGraw

Quote from: Bob Maxwell on March 29, 2009, 12:22:50 PM
there is a live video feed of the Brockport at Oneonta game on the Oneonta web site.
http://www.oneonta.edu/academics/athletics/


Thanks Bob!

BoomerIL

Bob.....

You would think that with all of the money Rochester has that they would at least provide a web feed, or like Cortland has with a live internet radio broadcast, for the home games.  It was great listening to that game last week.

Are you planning on being at the game on Wednesday at UR?
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra

Dave Bradley

Oneonta sweeps Brockport, Juedes shuts them out with a little help in game one 4-0, in game two Oneonta wins 6-3 behind Jeff Carter and Andreison, Brockport had their chances in game two, twice had the bases loaded with no outs and only managed 1 run each time. Juedes was not really threatened in picking up his 3rd win. Oneonta's hitting seems improved from last season.

Ruby Red Dawg

dave,

were you at the games in Oneonta on sunday? From the looks of the boxscores it seems as though juedes was tested. Looks like Brockport had runners on almost every inning, several times in scoring position.

Bob Maxwell

Boomer, it doesn't come down to money... its the avialability of the infrastruture to do it, and the more so the personnel to do it.  Our younger son is a media/broadcast major and I spoke with every school he looked at about why they don't do more broadcasts of their sports teams on the student stations (internet)... I was surprised at how many of them said that is a good idea we just never thought of it... but they still haven't done it.  If you have an academic department, it could be a class - sports broadcasting, and lab experience to do the different jobs, on air, camera person, director, grips, etc...  It is hands on experiecne for the schools.

I thought that the job done by Oneonta was decent... we could watch the games.  The camera angles were OK, the camera work got better as the game went on when they had to follow the action (or at least tried too), the directing was a bit slow and off the action from time to time, the announcers need to work on their presentation and their description of anything that was a close call.  BUT they were all students and really did a great job just getting it on for us to watch.  This is what they should do iin academia is to give hands on experience.  

I would love to see my son get to do this at his school... he is pushing for it, and they have internet broadcast a couple of volleyball games.  He has a radio talk show three times a week, and is working in the TV studio on the news/sports stories... but this type of thing is priceless when it comes to experience for the students - no matter how it comes out.  THEY ARE GETTING JOB TRAINING.

KUDOS to Oneonta... who ever was responsible for it.  Athletics or an academic departement.  GREAT EFFORT...  KEEP IT UP!  And as you say, I wish more schools would start it...


Bob Maxwell

I was just going to coment to Dave about the game...  but Ruby beat me to it.  I don't have my scoresheet with me here in the office, so I may be off with some of my numbers but:

Juedes did a good job during the game and did end up with a shut out.  But he was not dominating... as we said in the preseason discussion he was frustrating to the hitters, as he got out of trouble with good pitches on seveal occasions.  Brockport had a runner on base in every inning... and I think 7 times he got to second.  They just didn't get a hit with someone on base.

He did a great job of getting around baserunners.  Key strikeouts a couple of times, at least one double play ( I think early in the game).

He was very good... but he was threatened.  He made good pitches when he needed to.  The game was still in doubt in the 7th inning...  the run Oneonta scored in the bottom fo the 7th took some pressure off, but it was still there for the taking.

I said it earlier in the year that he wouuld be one of the best pitchers in the SUNYAC... and maybe even be considerd for POY if he can beat Cortland head to hear.  Tone may still be hard to beat for that...   He is a good pitcher and pitched very well.  But a hit in a couple of different innings and its a different ballgame.  But that is what good pitchers do, more often then not, they can get out of jams just like he did.

Good game...

John McGraw

I s'pose I could contribute to this discussion regarding web and video streaming since I kind of know something about that.

Cortland's had games streamed online since the early part of this decade - all of which have been done on a volunteer, non-student basis. First it was Gordon Mann, you may know him from D3football/D3hoops, calling a variety of football, hoops and baseball games. I joined Gordon after graduating from Ithaca in 2002 and when he moved away from upstate New York, I started handling all the internet broadcasts solo and also moved on to the radio side for football. Now, another volunteer, a local radio personality, handles the games.

And, more recently, Cortland has added student TV (CSTV) video streaming of select contests. Though, all of the internet audio broadcasts would not be possible without the help of volunteers. Same with the student TV workers volunteering their time to run cameras and cables and do all of the non-glamorous off-camera work that makes the video webcasts possible.

To be honest, most schools just don't have the manpower to pull this off. From a purely audio standpoint, technically all you need is a broadcaster and either a laptop or a telephone line and a headset phone. Even then, you need to pay someone to carry the broadcast (i.e. TEAMLINE) and you may need to pay the talent. That being said - most fields don't have telephone lines or press boxes. For example, Brockport has a wonderful press box but no phone line or wireless access so any broadcasts from the field would need to be done over a cell phone or via a telephone company (Verizon, Sprint etc) wireless card. Again, those cost money.

As for videocasts - most schools that have those are working through their student television stations. Some may not have the proper equipment to broadcast games. There are schools that do like cortland and Ithaca but a lot don't. And even if there is the equipment, you need volunteers to run it and set it up.

In this tough economic climate, a lot of schools don't have the funds to splurge into webcasting games. It's definitely the future but right now, more schools are putting funds into LiveStats and other web site features not necessarily related to game broadcasts.

Would I like to see more webcasts? Sure, I love it. But look how far everything has come since 2002. Then, you'd be lucky to see a score posted on a web site right after the game was over. The only way to know what was going on was to be at the game or cross your fingers to hope a student radio station was covering it. Now, we have live stats and lots of more stations covering games.

Bob Maxwell

John,

Well stated... when I said it doesn't come down to money, I was tlaking about athletic money.  I still think that with the academic umbrella of a class and the finanical aspect being in the budget area of academia.  Or if it was in athletics... there is a possibility of some advertising revenue instead of dead air between innnigs and during pitching changes.  I know, that is another staff postition...

But just think if the possibilites of Adjunct Professor, John McGraw teaching sports broadcasting 301.  The job marked just expanded!   :D

Good to have baseball back... are you on the air waves anywhere this spring?  Or summer?

Bob

BoomerIL

I guess there is a "punch list" of items that are necessary to have in-place for any kind of live presentation of a game.  A press box would be nice to start with.  I have heard however, that in the next 3-5 years Rochester is planning on renovating their football stadium, which may include the relocation of the baseball field to an off-site location!!

Well, maybe when I win the lottery I might then be able to help in this area at UR!!   :D
"You observe alot by watching"  -  Yogi Berra