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John McGraw

Quote from: Bob Maxwell on March 30, 2009, 01:57:53 PM
John,

Well stated... when I said it doesn't come down to money, I was tlaking about athletic money.  I still think that with the academic umbrella of a class and the finanical aspect being in the budget area of academia.  Or if it was in athletics... there is a possibility of some advertising revenue instead of dead air between innnigs and during pitching changes.  I know, that is another staff postition...

But just think if the possibilites of Adjunct Professor, John McGraw teaching sports broadcasting 301.  The job marked just expanded!   :D

Good to have baseball back... are you on the air waves anywhere this spring?  Or summer?

Bob

LOL @ Professor McGraw.

I agree that there certainly are ways to finance broadcasts by having sponsors through commercials and in-game readers. That's how most small colleges pay to have games on the radio (on professionally-run stations) - someone goes out and sells the sponsorships, whether it's an ad exec at the radio station or someone at the college. Or it can be a mix of both - but like Bob said, that's another position and in the Division III environment, that's just not feasible. I know the school I currently broadcast for at the Division I level can afford to pay people who just working on marketing, but they're also wearing other hats too.

Also, if you start webcasting one sport, other teams' parents, players, coaches etc will wonder when you will start covering their games. So you get into a tough situation if there's just one volunteer. That's why you see so many school's with LiveStats, you're covering a game live and most sports have live-scoring programs that can be HTML'd to a school's web site.

But like I said in my earlier post, webcasting is the future. I'll use football as an example. Back when I started with D3football.com, Gordon and I would have our pick of what games we wanted to cover during the season (within reason) because no one was webcasting at the time. One week we'd be at cortland, the next somewhere in Pennsylvania or Massachusetts. Now, almost every school is webstreaming football and/or men's and women's basketball. The number of schools that broadcast outnumber the school's that don't. Spring sports are also harder because of weather conditions/cancellations and the fact that the season runs into spring final exams and summer break.

Looking at the conference itself, a lot of the schools have some type of broadcasts - Brockport's WBSU does a full schedule of football, men's/women's hoops and men's ice hockey; Buffalo State has been hit-or-miss but some years the student station does football, hoops and hockey; cortland I've mentioned, Fredonia has a student radio broadcast of men's hockey, Geneseo has a full schedule of men's hockey, Oneonta's done live video the past few seasons of various sports; Oswego does a full schedule of men's hockey with radio/TV; Plattsburgh has professional radio for hockey and Potsdam has radio broadcasts for hoops and hockey.

Ruby Red Dawg

this weekend looks to be the turning point for many teams in conference play. any comments? Anyone gooing to be at any of the games to give us some reports?

John McGraw

FYI,

I'll be live blogging tomorrow (Tuesday) from SUNY Cortland's Robert H. Wallace Field as #19 SUNY Cortland hosts Route 13 rival Ithaca College in a non-league game. The first pitch, weather permitting, is scheduled for 4:00 pm EDT. The live blog will be available through the front page at D3baseball.com. Blogging coverage begins at 3:45 pm.

The forecast isn't looking great but it's not completely awful. Weather.com is calling for a high of 49 degrees with a 60% chance of showers on-and-off during the afternoon hours.

Dave Bradley

Bob, I was at the Oneonta- Brockport DH, I guess what I meant was that they never got a man to 3rd in the game and I thought Juedes was pretty much in command of the game, they did get several men to 2nd as you said. In the 2nd game I thought Oneonta was in trouble a couple of times when Zimmerman smashed a Homerun and then they loaded the bases with no outs, I thought the flood gates were going to open but they only scored 1 run, then a couple of innings later they loaded them again with no outs and again they only scored 1 run. I also agree that Juedes did not have an overpowering fastball, I would guess 84 or so, when I seen him in Twi-light league he was throwing harder, probably about 5 mph, he led the Twi-light league in strikeouts but he doesn't throw the same in college. He is a good pitcher but I expected to see a bigger fastball, he has a real good slider in my opinion.

Bob Maxwell

Dave,

No arguement from me that he is a good pitcher... I said so in the hot stove discussions.  Pitching is a funny thing.  Your job is to make the other team hit the ball so that your team can get them out.  yes, there are strikeouts, but basically your job is to keep hitters off balance and make them hit the ball.  He does that VERY well...  but with runners on base, you are just one seeing eye (or solid) single away from giving up a run or two.

He did pitch well... and was not hit very hard.  So he did his job... there were a couple of very good defensive plays that helped him too.  The right fielder made a circus catch while avoiding a full speed collision with the fence down the right field line on a foul ball... He got a double play on a line drive up the middle that he caught and caught the baserunner off of second base... and Randle madea diving stop on a ball to end an inning.  the last two would have plated runs, the first one would have kept an AB and inning going.   So there was some good defense that helped too.

I shouldn't be surprised by Oneonta playing good defense against Brockport... They have done so in the past too.  Scott Dubbin has made several hightlight reel plays, Brian Holmes has made some too, and the real killer was the catch in center field that took a home run that would have tied the game... but instead ended it.

It was a good game... and He is a very good pitcher.  You bring up the MPH of his fast ball.  That is usually the difference between a good a great pitcher.  The ability to have  a few MPH on your fast ball to get you out of trouble by widening your margin of error with the added velocity.  A pitcher can't survive with just a great fast ball, but a good one will make a good pitcher better.

He gets those 5 or 6 mph and he moves to the head of the class.... if he isn't already there.

My son dealt with the same issue... when he had his 89+ mph fast ball (I never gunned him at 90, but he was regularly at 88-89) he was very hard to hit.  drop down to 85 and he had to pitch with his stuff.  I think he and Steve are similar pitchers.  Rob just had a bit more on his fastball.

It was good to see the games got played, as the make ups mess up everyone's schedule and cause the kids to miss classes. 

Thanks for the exchange, perhaps we will see you at a game through the year.

John McGraw

No live blog today. The game was rained out.

jdex


Ithaca at Cortland moved to Thursday at 4. Supposed to be 60 with some sun. Of course, that's our view from Florida where the sun always shines and today's temps topped out in mid-80s. Sorry bout that, but northeast is gaining

John McGraw

Quote from: jdex on April 01, 2009, 06:24:24 PM

Ithaca at Cortland moved to Thursday at 4. Supposed to be 60 with some sun. Of course, that's our view from Florida where the sun always shines and today's temps topped out in mid-80s. Sorry bout that, but northeast is gaining

Tomorrow: sunny and 63


StarvinMarvin

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Sorry to burst your bubble Bob but your son doesn't pop 89+!  I don't think you realize how hard that velocity really is.  People like yourself toss around numbers as if it's nothing to throw that hard.  That type of arm strength off the mound isn't overly common.  At the moment, Matt Tone is a legit 88-91 when he's loose and in mid-season form and the same could possibly be said for Filak and that's about it for the SUNYAC.  In Rob's time, Dougher, Schellinger, Salamida, Jweid and Mattes were in the 88-91 range.  Rob didn't have the same velocity as those guys, sorry.  I respect your son's ability to pitch but he was 83-85 which is still impressive.

Bob Maxwell

Is there any audio for the Ithaca at Cortland game today?   I haven't found anything... jsut wondering if anyone know of something.

FranElia

Bob,

No audio from Cortland's side, but I think Ithaca campus station WICB might be here. They had planned on being here yesterday, and I think they're trying to come here today, but I don't think that's 100 percent yet.

You can check their web site at: http://www.wicb.org and see if they're broadcasting when game time hits.

Hope you're doing well. I enjoyed meeting you and Rob at the Series last year.

Fran

Bob Maxwell

Thanks Fran!  I will check at 5:00 when I get home...

Bob Maxwell

StarvinMarvin,

No bubble burst here, I'm just wondering if the radar gun I use has been broken the last few years.  AND I don't toss numbers around without having seen them my self like a lot of people on here do. 

All the guys you mentioned are very good pitchers (as is Juedes who I was talking about in my post)... yes they all did throw at the velocity you state when they were "loose and in mid season form" as you say about Matt.  But if you haven't gunned someone at least now and then, you shouldn't comment on their velocity.  Rob was regularly in the 88-89 range the times I gunned him during his last two years at Brockport.   He threw 83-85 in High School.

I don't want to argue over something that is really silly... but I know what I've seen.

If you read my comment, I state that I've gunned him at 89 (but have not seen him hit 90, although some others have told me they've seen him do it).  I am careful NOT to say something that isn't true... from my FIRST HAND experience; I've seen him throw 89 on many occasions during his last two years at Brockport.

I understand you not believing he throws 89 because, as you say in your post, "most people don't really know what that takes" and not many people do it in D-3 in NY.  Let me share a short story to that point, as Matt Tone was surprised too.  the summer that they played together on the NYCBL Riverbats, Matt was in the stands selling 50/50 tickets for the team and walked by me when I had the gun out and was charting Rob pitching.  He asked me what he was throwing and I told him 88 today... Matt was shocked at that and said he didn't know he threw that hard.

Most pitchers, who do throw near 90, do it effortlessly.  They don't muscle the ball with arm strength, they do it with fluid mechanics and speed of movement... and when someone does it in a smooth manner it is often perceived that he is not throwing as hard as he really is.  Other then the one summer where Rob played with Matt on the Riverbats, I don't know any of the guys you mention personally, but I do recall all of them being lean guys, not all bulked up.  Which may account for their ability to throw a pitch at or near 90 mph?

Your point about respecting his ability to pitch (is very much apprecaited) and is exactly the point I was making about Juedes, he is a very talented and capable pitcher.  If he ever gets his fast ball up near 90, he will be even that much better.  And I say that not having a clue what he does throw at... does anyone have a velocity number for him from a gun?  Either way, he is a very good pitcher...


GREAT DAY FOR A GAME TODAY... I will have to open the doors and windows at home and listen to the Ithaca at Cortland game if its on!!!

   ;D

Bob Maxwell

Cortland just scored on an Ithaca Error... they are up 7-2. 

Bob Maxwell

Game just ended... Brockport 12 Rochester 8 in 11 innings.

I think I got the score correct...