BB: SUNYAC

[John McGraw]

I want to see the box score... to see who pitched.  Match ups... as I said, the best pitcher in the conference is the one you are up against that day.

My questin is how do you split with Hilbert and then the next time out split with Cortland?  Matchups...   

Good for Fredonia... they've been coming on for the last few years.  And it looks like this year may be interesting.  But Cortland has lost early in the past and gotten back on track.  So lets see where it all goes...

Like John said....

Good point about Cortland. I can remember one year, though which one I have no idea, but Cortland and Brockport each had one league loss or something like that heading into the final weekend (or close to the end of the season) and the Iggles had the tiebreaker. Cortland swept its' final league opponent while Brockport was shocked up at Oswego and Cortland ended up hosting the tournament.

Lots of time left. I think if anything, not only is there some parity now in the SUNYAC, with Cortland's slight struggles, there's lots of parity in the New York region as well.

[bball 14]

cortland will continue to stuggle until joe b learns how to build up a team after a tough loss instead of ripping them apart...... easy to coach when your winning...... just my 2 cents

[John McGraw]

cortland will continue to stuggle until joe b learns how to build up a team after a tough loss instead of ripping them apart...... easy to coach when your winning...... just my 2 cents

If you're going to rip a coach, at least post with your real name.

[bball 14]

just a fan with an opinion   what is this nazi germany..... i've witnessed one of joe's tirades.......they are not pretty OK

[pudge27]

cortland will continue to stuggle until joe b learns how to build up a team after a tough loss instead of ripping them apart...... easy to coach when your winning...... just my 2 cents

I've got to say that I have no idea what you're talking about.  Firstly, this approach is a big problem all of a sudden after HOW MANY years?  Seemed to be working pretty well for the last decade or so.  Secondly, take a look at the VERY successful coaches of DIII programs locally (say Northeast) over the past 20 years and please let me know which of those coaches was burning incense and hanging potpourri in the dugouts when their teams are not playing well.  Thirdly, if anything, it's harder to coach young kids when they are winning.  Most kids at this level know when they're not going well and will work harder to improve.  It's a heck of a lot harder to keep them going when they think they're good.     Everybody keep an eye out for Dr. Phil in the C St. dugout next week. 

[StarvinMarvin]

Problem is, Coach B thinks he knows everything and can't admit when he messes up and chooses to blame it on his players instead of his coaching style/practice habits.  When things are going well it's because of him but when things go bad it's the players fault.  Bottom line is that as a player, he couldn't himself do half the things he asks of his players.  Baseball is much easier to coach than play.  IMO too many coaches are judged by wins and losses which makes him look good.  However, he fails when it comes to other criteria.  Much easier to blame your players than look in the mirror.

[John McGraw]

Fredonia's got a gamer of the second game up however no box aside from a line score. That being said, none of their games this season have a box posted online.

In game two, Fredonia scored five runs in the third on George Jweid and never trailed after that. The Devils potted two big runs in the seventh against the Dragons pen to expand a two-run lead to four. Andy Gardner and Kevin Jackson each had a clout for cortland.

Game one, not close. 16 runs on 17 hits though Fredonia did have a 1-0 lead after 1. Tone threw six strong for the win.

[Bob Maxwell]

bball 14,  Everyone is entitled to an opinion and are welcome on here... no censor ship here.  I think what John is saying is that in your opinion, you shouldn't attack an individual.  the opinion and comments are wlecomed, its just that you went directly at someone personally (and I'm sure that coach Brown can handle the attack...    as he has other things to worry and focus on, and most likely doesn't read this)... anyway, most posters on here are annonymous so do get loose with what they say... no problem with annonimity, just don't attack someone personally.  sorry about the soap box.

AND you are right, it is much tougher to coach when you're NOT winning.  It seems to be easy when you are winning, but that isn't always the case.  There are a lot of things that coaches need to deal with that those of us in the world of message baords and blogs don't think about.

And there are two sides to everything... Starvin and Pudge both give good points on opposite sides of the issue.  So there is a lot to it.

Not choosing either side... Marvin states somethign that I've always thougth.

IMO too many coaches are judged by wins and losses which makes him look good.

.  Just that one statement speaks volumes in my opinion.  I agree with it and its opposite, that coaches also get often get to much blame when things don't work out.   Players win and lose games... coaches can have some impact, but the players are the primary reason you win and lose.   AND coaches are the ones who (in most cases) brig in the players..

Interesting discussion point.  As there are hundreds of different things that impact winning and losing... BUT the biggest one is the players.

[Bob Maxwell]

I didn't see the games... so I can't speak as to what mistakes or great moves may have been made, but it looks to me like one of the biggest (if not the biggest) things to impact the game was Ricky Carlson the Fredonia pitcher.  He is a senior from Frewsburg... and has been the winning pitcher against both Cortland and Oneonta... he only has 22 K's in 34 IP's, a 4-0 record and opponents are hitting .270 against him.  He looks like he is the kind of pitcher who flys under the radar (not big strikeout numbers but when he is on, he is tough to hit against).  Similar to what we've discussed with Steve Juedes...

I can't find stats from last years Fredonia team on their site... anyone have a history on him?  He looks like he has moved to the head of a pitching staff and is making everyone think they can do it.  And they are 3-3 right in the mix for qualifying for the tournament.

I wouldn't get too excited or disappointed yet no matter what team I'm on as there is still a lot of baseball to play.  two years ago, Brockport swept Cortland to open the conference season, then dropped 2 one run games to Oswego the next day.  Three yearrs ago, Oswego beat Cortland early in the season behind Adam Herandza (sorry about the spelling Adam...), but Cortland still hosted the tournament and Oswego missed out on the last day of the season with a loss to I believe Fredonia.

So while things are taking shape there is a lot of baseball to play.  There are some big games coming up... three results I want to see are: 1) Oneonta at Cortland on 4/18; 2)  Fredonia at Brockport on 4/25; and 3) Plattsburgh hasn't started playing yet, so we don't really know where they fit in at this point.

It will be fun to watch!

[John McGraw]

I didn't see the games... so I can't speak as to what mistakes or great moves may have been made, but it looks to me like one of the biggest (if not the biggest) things to impact the game was Ricky Carlson the Fredonia pitcher.  He is a senior from Frewsburg... and has been the winning pitcher against both Cortland and Oneonta... he only has 22 K's in 34 IP's, a 4-0 record and opponents are hitting .270 against him.  He looks like he is the kind of pitcher who flys under the radar (not big strikeout numbers but when he is on, he is tough to hit against).  Similar to what we've discussed with Steve Juedes...

Here's Carlson's career numbers
2009: 4-0, 1.59 ERA, 5 GS, 4 CG, 34.0 IP, 22 K, 7 BB
2008: 2-4, 5.77 ERA, 11 APP, 5 GS, 1 SV, 43.2 IP, 29 K, 5 BB
2007: 1-2, 3.30 ERA (team-best), 12 APP, 2 GS, 2 SV, 30.0 IP, 20 K, 7 BB
2006: Jamestown CC

Doesn't hurt that he's a lefty. Carlson also pitched last summer in the Western Major Baseball League for the Weyburn Beavers. He went 2-4 with a 4.22 ERA as part of the team's four-man starting rotation. Weyburn finished the summer 12-24.

BTW, Cortland at Brockport has been postponed again. No doubleheader this afternoon.

[Bob Maxwell]

Thanks John... why doesn't it surprise me that you had these numbers 9or at least knew where to find them).

Looks like he is having a career year... good for him, and with the exception of when they play Brockport, I hope he continues.  I wonder if there is something in the water down in Weyburn...

Yes, heard about it when Rob called.  those are important games too.  I wonder when they will be made up?  As both teams weekends are pretty full...

[tripleplay9]

I wonder if there is something in the water down in Weyburn...

I do believe that Weyburn is UP in Canada but no fault for the mistake   

And while digging up info on Fred, I think that it should be noted that last week they started the first game late in New Paltz, and then somehow got to Hilbert the next day to play a double header at 1? That's rumor, but if that is the case, hardly can hold that type of travel against a collegiate team.

[Bob Maxwell]

Good point on the back to back days... that was caused by the rain and reschedule over the weekend.  But if you want to be a top team, you need to over come that.  They look to be garning some recognition, hate to see them lose it with a loss like that.  But then again, as I say... you have to respect anyone who puts on a uniform and takes the field!  And the Hilbert coach is a Brockport alum so I can see how it happened.   

You may be correct on Weyburn being in Canada...    I will have to look it up.       and try to be more accurate.

[HotSoupTrio]

does anyone have any ideas when some of these games we lost last weekend will be rescheduled?

hate to see teams get screwed up in the end having to play a ton of conference games in a short period of time.

[John McGraw]

does anyone have any ideas when some of these games we lost last weekend will be rescheduled?

hate to see teams get screwed up in the end having to play a ton of conference games in a short period of time.

Won't be different from any other year. I'd imagine if push comes to shove, teams will drop or re-schedule non-con games to play the league games. Like for example, Cortland dropping the second game with Keystone so it can get in the Brockport games.

EDIT AGAIN: Cortland will be playing at Brockport on Friday. The games against St. Joseph's of Long Island will be rescheduled.