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Started by Ralph Turner, January 19, 2007, 02:51:19 PM

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magicman

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Plattsburgh State defeats visiting St. Lawrence 11-6 this afternoon.

Plattsburgh 11 runs 18 hits 3 errors

SLU 6 runs 5 hits 0 errors

The Cardinals jumped out to a 4-1 lead after 1 and added 1 in the 5th and 3 more in the 7th to make it 8-1. SLU scored 2 in the 8th but Plattsburgh put 3 on the board in the bottom half of the inning. Saints with 1 hit, 2 Plattsburgh errors and 3 walks scored 3 in the top of the 9th to make the final 11-6.

Freshman Matt Seymour went 7 strong innings to pick up his 1st win in a Cardinal uniform.
He allowed 3 runs on 4 hits with 2 walks and 2 strikeouts.

Plattsburgh improves to 21-4 while St. Lawrence falls to 11-10.

scuba16

Quote from: John McGraw on April 12, 2010, 10:29:03 AM
The umpire has to announce the player into the game as he is either apprised of the move by the pinch hitter or the head coach. If the umpire does not signal the player into the game and inform the PA announcer and official scorer, then said player is not in the game.

The PA announcer usually goes on the umpires signal for substitutions but as someone that has done PA for baseball and softball, occasionally, you announce the sub before the umpires signal. Ninety-nine times out of 100 it's not a big deal since the move is made and Player X comes into pinch hit. That's what happened here.

Brockport will get another chance at Cortland in the playoffs, they can get back at them then.
Hey John, your interpretation isn't entirely true. You don't have to announce anyone into any game using the umpire. The players intent to bat(stepping into the batters box) serves as the announcement!  The telling the umpire and the other coach is just a courtesy. As a coach, you can pinch hit when you like without involving the umpire, the announcer or the other coach. Same thing holds true for entering a defensive substitution! After the first pitch, that defensive replacement player has officially entered the game regardless of who was notified.
Think of it this way, what is the penalty for not announcing a pinch hitter or defensive replacement? There is none! You can't call the batter out or disqualify the defensive replacement. You as the umpire, have no grounds to do so! The only reason I know this is because I have it happened to me and I have also done it before! Its really not the most diplomatic thing to do but none the less very legal!
The batter or coach either has to tell the ump of the substitution or simply step in the box!
In sports it's not how you start, its how you finish!

theguru25

and that is what happened. gentzke was announced by the PA guy, stepped in and cleared out the box. then beach went out to switch pitchers. then brown brings jackson back into the game. classy move by joe brown. NOT.

CobbSpikes2B

Cortland 12-0
Oneonta 8-4
Brockport 8-4
Fredonia 7-5
Plattsburgh 7-5
New Paltz 6-6
Oswego 4-8

onesix3

That's what I saw!!!

John McGraw

Did the play completely decide the game? No, it didn't. Cortland scoring five runs in the bottom of the eighth was the difference.

Let's move on.

There are some big doubleheaders on tap this weekend including Cortland at Oneonta, Cortland at New Paltz and Brockport at Plattsburgh. The Cards have traditionally given the Golden Eagles fits and this looks like it should be a pretty even series. Kudos to Brockport as well for scheduling games at Clarkson the following day - those are two teams that typically don't play one another.

Elsewhere, Oneonta has Dave Filak back. One would assume Cortland will see him on Saturday in game number one. Despite being hurt for a little while, Filak still leads the nation in strikeouts per nine innings. New Paltz, despite some bad losses, looks like a dangerous club at home and they do have a victory at nationally-rated Salisbury.

theguru25

that play was a huge momentum shifter after jackson blooped in a single that scored a run on that change. cortland was riding high off that play and it spiraled from there.

ballsy

joe b  wanted that pitcher out of the game....pure and simple.....he got it......basic joe brown move......and it did have a huge impact on the game.....momentum is everything

theguru25

valle was only in for 2/3 of an inning. joe brown couldnt have wanted him out that bad. its not like the starter was in and dealing

jdex



Cortland 26, Cazenovia 6

ballsy

joe b wanted the lefty out.... cortland has had a tough time scoring against left hand pitching all year....they will hammer hard throwing rightys....joe b got what he wanted

theguru25

coleman, the kid they put in is the complete opposite of hard throwing

Run_DMC

Quote from: CobbSpikes2B on April 14, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
Cortland 12-0
Oneonta 8-4
Brockport 8-4
Fredonia 7-5
Plattsburgh 7-5
New Paltz 6-6
Oswego 4-8

Those 52 Wins and 32 Loses dont balance out and that doesnt make sense

John McGraw

Quote from: ballsy on April 14, 2010, 08:45:47 PM
joe b wanted the lefty out.... cortland has had a tough time scoring against left hand pitching all year....they will hammer hard throwing rightys....joe b got what he wanted

I wouldn't call Jordon Allen a hard-throwing righty. He's more of a crafty righty.

ballsy

didn't mean to imply that jordan was hard thrower,but that cortland seems to hit well against right hand pitching, especially hard throwers. sorry