D3 Championship Belt

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Yeshiva made a valiant effort, but York retains the Belt for tomorrow's matchup (challenger TBD).

[lmitzel]

Yeshiva made a valiant effort, but York retains the Belt for tomorrow's matchup (challenger TBD).

It'll be Hamilton, who beat Nazareth 86-72.

[kiko]

East Stroudsburg '78-'79... here's what I was able to find (not sure if this gets us anywhere)...


https://static.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Year-by-Year%20Men's%20Basketball%20PSAC%20Champions.pdf?path=mbball

They were 4-8 in the league, 12-15 Overall


Don Bones was included in the NCAA ranking history sheet at ESU:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/PSAC%20individual%20rankings%20-%20MBB.pdf

1978-79 Scoring Don Bones t-39 19.8 points/game
FT % Don Bones 17 .854 (76 for 89)


Don Bones was Honorable Mention NABC KODAK All-America in both 1980 and 1981:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/Postseason%20Honors.pdf

Confirmed this is D-II

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20140325/Sports/403250303


So in '79-'80 and '80-'81, they were D-II and in the NCAA (in some way shape or form) in '78-'79.  Is that close enough?

No, not really, since we're looking for the 1976-77 season. If we had an indication of D2 status for East Stroudsburg prior to that, as well as the info that we have that the Warriors were D2 subsequent to '76-'77, then we'd have pretty solid circumstantial evidence. Thanks, anyway.

All of these sparkly things are distracting me so I am not fully following this conversation... I have access to the Pocono Record (Stroudsburg newspaper) from 1962 through 1977.  What exactly are we looking to understand?

[ronk]

East Stroudsburg '78-'79... here's what I was able to find (not sure if this gets us anywhere)...


https://static.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Year-by-Year%20Men's%20Basketball%20PSAC%20Champions.pdf?path=mbball

They were 4-8 in the league, 12-15 Overall


Don Bones was included in the NCAA ranking history sheet at ESU:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/PSAC%20individual%20rankings%20-%20MBB.pdf

1978-79 Scoring Don Bones t-39 19.8 points/game
FT % Don Bones 17 .854 (76 for 89)


Don Bones was Honorable Mention NABC KODAK All-America in both 1980 and 1981:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/Postseason%20Honors.pdf

Confirmed this is D-II

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20140325/Sports/403250303


So in '79-'80 and '80-'81, they were D-II and in the NCAA (in some way shape or form) in '78-'79.  Is that close enough?

No, not really, since we're looking for the 1976-77 season. If we had an indication of D2 status for East Stroudsburg prior to that, as well as the info that we have that the Warriors were D2 subsequent to '76-'77, then we'd have pretty solid circumstantial evidence. Thanks, anyway.

All of these sparkly things are distracting me so I am not fully following this conversation... I have access to the Pocono Record (Stroudsburg newspaper) from 1962 through 1977.  What exactly are we looking to understand?

We're looking to see if East Stroudsburg was a D3 school in 1977(or ever). All the PSAC schools were D2 starting in 1980, but some were D3 in the 1970s.

[Caz Bombers]

Lin Manuel Miranda claims The Belt!

[kiko]

East Stroudsburg '78-'79... here's what I was able to find (not sure if this gets us anywhere)...


https://static.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Year-by-Year%20Men's%20Basketball%20PSAC%20Champions.pdf?path=mbball

They were 4-8 in the league, 12-15 Overall


Don Bones was included in the NCAA ranking history sheet at ESU:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/PSAC%20individual%20rankings%20-%20MBB.pdf

1978-79 Scoring Don Bones t-39 19.8 points/game
FT % Don Bones 17 .854 (76 for 89)


Don Bones was Honorable Mention NABC KODAK All-America in both 1980 and 1981:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/Postseason%20Honors.pdf

Confirmed this is D-II

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20140325/Sports/403250303


So in '79-'80 and '80-'81, they were D-II and in the NCAA (in some way shape or form) in '78-'79.  Is that close enough?

No, not really, since we're looking for the 1976-77 season. If we had an indication of D2 status for East Stroudsburg prior to that, as well as the info that we have that the Warriors were D2 subsequent to '76-'77, then we'd have pretty solid circumstantial evidence. Thanks, anyway.

All of these sparkly things are distracting me so I am not fully following this conversation... I have access to the Pocono Record (Stroudsburg newspaper) from 1962 through 1977.  What exactly are we looking to understand?

We're looking to see if East Stroudsburg was a D3 school in 1977(or ever). All the PSAC schools were D2 starting in 1980, but some were D3 in the 1970s.

I did a cursory search -- they were D2 in football in 1976.  I'll see if I can find a basketball reference.

"Halfback Pete Radocha of East Stroudsburg State College still ranks in the top ten in the nation in scoring, according to the weekly NCAA Division II football statistics released Friday."

(This is what life was like before d3everything.com...)


Edit:
D2 in Cross Country as well...
Moved up from D2 to D1 in Wrestling in 1976.

[kiko]

East Stroudsburg '78-'79... here's what I was able to find (not sure if this gets us anywhere)...


https://static.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Year-by-Year%20Men's%20Basketball%20PSAC%20Champions.pdf?path=mbball

They were 4-8 in the league, 12-15 Overall


Don Bones was included in the NCAA ranking history sheet at ESU:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/PSAC%20individual%20rankings%20-%20MBB.pdf

1978-79 Scoring Don Bones t-39 19.8 points/game
FT % Don Bones 17 .854 (76 for 89)


Don Bones was Honorable Mention NABC KODAK All-America in both 1980 and 1981:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/Postseason%20Honors.pdf

Confirmed this is D-II

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20140325/Sports/403250303


So in '79-'80 and '80-'81, they were D-II and in the NCAA (in some way shape or form) in '78-'79.  Is that close enough?

No, not really, since we're looking for the 1976-77 season. If we had an indication of D2 status for East Stroudsburg prior to that, as well as the info that we have that the Warriors were D2 subsequent to '76-'77, then we'd have pretty solid circumstantial evidence. Thanks, anyway.

All of these sparkly things are distracting me so I am not fully following this conversation... I have access to the Pocono Record (Stroudsburg newspaper) from 1962 through 1977.  What exactly are we looking to understand?

We're looking to see if East Stroudsburg was a D3 school in 1977(or ever). All the PSAC schools were D2 starting in 1980, but some were D3 in the 1970s.

From the Pocono Record on January 11, 1977:

(blah blah blah)...

ESSC which dropped its eighth straight, was only 36 percent from the floor, 24 for 66.  Charlie Sapp was the team's best with six for 13 in a 13 point performance.

Sapp, a 6-3 freshman, was the nation's leader in free throw shooting in this week's NCAA Division II statistics with a 95.2 per cent mark on 20 free throws in 21 attempts.  His average will fall, however, as he was one for two from the line Monday night."

Do we need anything from an earlier carbon dating, or does this give us what we need?

[ronk]

East Stroudsburg '78-'79... here's what I was able to find (not sure if this gets us anywhere)...


https://static.psacsports.org/custompages/mbball/Year-by-Year%20Men's%20Basketball%20PSAC%20Champions.pdf?path=mbball

They were 4-8 in the league, 12-15 Overall


Don Bones was included in the NCAA ranking history sheet at ESU:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/PSAC%20individual%20rankings%20-%20MBB.pdf

1978-79 Scoring Don Bones t-39 19.8 points/game
FT % Don Bones 17 .854 (76 for 89)


Don Bones was Honorable Mention NABC KODAK All-America in both 1980 and 1981:

https://static.esuwarriors.com/custompages/MBB/Postseason%20Honors.pdf

Confirmed this is D-II

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20140325/Sports/403250303


So in '79-'80 and '80-'81, they were D-II and in the NCAA (in some way shape or form) in '78-'79.  Is that close enough?

No, not really, since we're looking for the 1976-77 season. If we had an indication of D2 status for East Stroudsburg prior to that, as well as the info that we have that the Warriors were D2 subsequent to '76-'77, then we'd have pretty solid circumstantial evidence. Thanks, anyway.

All of these sparkly things are distracting me so I am not fully following this conversation... I have access to the Pocono Record (Stroudsburg newspaper) from 1962 through 1977.  What exactly are we looking to understand?

We're looking to see if East Stroudsburg was a D3 school in 1977(or ever). All the PSAC schools were D2 starting in 1980, but some were D3 in the 1970s.

From the Pocono Record on January 11, 1977:

(blah blah blah)...

ESSC which dropped its eighth straight, was only 36 percent from the floor, 24 for 66.  Charlie Sapp was the team's best with six for 13 in a 13 point performance.

Sapp, a 6-3 freshman, was the nation's leader in free throw shooting in this week's NCAA Division II statistics with a 95.2 per cent mark on 20 free throws in 21 attempts.  His average will fall, however, as he was one for two from the line Monday night."

Looks good enough for me; thanks for the effort.

[Gregory Sager]

Thanks for verifying all of my hard work, kiko.

[kiko]

Thanks for verifying all of my hard work, kiko.

Did I just get Ypsi'ed?  I don't think so, but now I'm not so sure...

[Gregory Sager]

No, definitely not a Ypsi. Way too obscure to be a Ypsi, because, believe me, I've hunted high and low for that East Stroudsburg info.

[kiko]

No, definitely not a Ypsi. Way too obscure to be a Ypsi, because, believe me, I've hunted high and low for that East Stroudsburg info.

Oh, good.

Now I want Charlie Sapp to google himself and discover this room... 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Hamilton with the Belt!  A really tremendous defensive performance from the Continentals (I wonder if the mascot is a joke about prominent historical figures).

[lmitzel]

So here's what we're up to for the current season:

2017-18  Dam Belt^TM Path
3-18-17  Babson
11-19-17  Endicott
11-26-17  Endicott Middlebury
12-29-17  York(Pa)
1-20-18  Mary Washington
2-10-18  Wesley
2-17-18  Frostburg State
2-20-18  Mary Washington
2-22-18  Christopher Newport
2-24-18  York(Pa)
3-3-18  Hamilton

The map has been updated to include both Hamilton's possession of The Belt^TM and Swarthmore's hosting of the pod where It^TM will be. I'll try and take some time this week to carve out the Stealth Era on there as well.

Updated mark of how teams carrying The Belt^TM into the NCAA Tournament have fared:
One and done: '17 Bethel, 12 Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, '09 Transylvania, '08 Chicago
Round of 32: '18 York (PA), '07 Hampden-Sydney
Sweet 16: '14 Albertus Magnus, '11 UWSP, '10 Wooster
Elite 8: '16 Alma
Final 4: '13 St. Thomas
Title Game: '15 Augustana
Champion: None

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm following the Belt to Swarthmore - that means I'll have been present for every Belt game of this NCAA Tournament.  I might need some extra strength sunscreen to avoid the deleterious effects of it's shining visage.