D3 Championship Belt

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'll be in attendance for two Belt games this weekend!

[mailsy]

I'm hoping Cabrini gets to the sweet 16. If they do there's a chance I may get close again to The Belt^TM. I haven't been this close to it's^TM magnificence since March 2012 in Salem.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm hoping Cabrini gets to the sweet 16. If they do there's a chance I may get close again to The Belt^TM. I haven't been this close to it's^TM magnificence since March 2012 in Salem.

Right, Salem.  I guess I have seen a few Belt games before.  As magnificent as is the Belt, it does occasionally get overshadowed by the Walnut & Bronze, also the confetti cannons.

[sac]

I'm hoping Cabrini gets to the sweet 16. If they do there's a chance I may get close again to The Belt^TM. I haven't been this close to it's^TM magnificence since March 2012 in Salem.

Right, Salem.  I guess I have seen a few Belt games before.  As magnificent as is the Belt, it does occasionally get overshadowed by the Walnut & Bronze, also the confetti cannons.

You can't overshadow The Belt^Tm, The Belt^Tm overshadows all.

Oh, man, there's a high school in Indiana (Pendleton Heights) whose nickname is Arabians. (It's in regards to the horse, but still....)

Score I came across from boys high school Sectional play in Indiana tonight

New Palestine 71, Pendleton Heights 56

IIRC, New Palestine was Kent Raymond's high school.

Seriously.

Yes

[lmitzel]

So after putting in several painstaking hours to live up to my billing as the Official Belt^TM Cartographer^TM (I'm getting this before the Weasels can ), I have charted every gym where The Belt^TM has either been played for or taken up residence in. The finished product can be seen here.

For full disclosure: I'm not 100 percent satisfied with this. I only marked each location down once and just tried to put a ton of detail in on each of those schools where The Belt^TM changed hands. National champions got the brown marker for national champions even if other criteria were fulfilled. This meant a ton of details in places like St. Thomas and UWSP. Maybe after the season is over I'll go through and do multiple markers in places to show every category that was fulfilled in each gym.

I didn't count the number of games in each facility so I can't be sure where The Belt^TM has been the most, though the most likely answer is Salem (22 NCAA Tournament games, plus 3 ODAC Tournament games back in 2007 when this was first getting charted and I had no idea what I was getting into as a senior in high school preparing to go to a D3 school).

By my count, assuming I didn't miss anything, 114 colleges have either held The Belt^TM or hosted a game where The Belt^TM, not counting one non-D3 institution that hosted a competition, plus five other neutral site venues.

I also discovered that I've announced two games for The Belt^TM, one of which I didn't know about before when UW-Whitewater held It^TM following their 2014 national championship when they came to North Central for their old Tipoff Tournament. NCC was originally supposed to play Whitewater on the second day, but instead we played Trinity International and likely crippled our NCAA Tournament chances by doing so while also missing out on The Belt^TM. Alas.

[Gregory Sager]

Magnificent work, Lucas!

You should be awarded a monogrammed welder's visor for Belt^TM viewing for all that attention to detail.

[Greek Tragedy]

Very impressive! +1

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

[lmitzel]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

The part I worry about with this is that someone, somewhere along the line, would have had to achieve The Dream Scenario^TM and it could potentially throw the path of The Belt^TM out of whack. Though once you get to widespread conference tournaments it might still end up getting to the established timeline.

We're looking at some J.J. Abrams alternate Star Trek timeline-type shenanigan potential here. The Department of Temporal Investigations wouldn't be happy with that...

[Gregory Sager]

Dulmer and Lucsley were never happy with anything.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

The part I worry about with this is that someone, somewhere along the line, would have had to achieve The Dream Scenario^TM and it could potentially throw the path of The Belt^TM out of whack. Though once you get to widespread conference tournaments it might still end up getting to the established timeline.

We're looking at some J.J. Abrams alternate Star Trek timeline-type shenanigan potential here. The Department of Temporal Investigations wouldn't be happy with that...

I imagine it would have happened a lot more in the past, when the tournament was smaller and access to it less direct.

I think the biggest problem would be knowing which teams were d3 schools in the 70's and early 80's.

[John Gleich]

So after putting in several painstaking hours to live up to my billing as the Official Belt^TM Cartographer^TM (I'm getting this before the Weasels can ), I have charted every gym where The Belt^TM has either been played for or taken up residence in. The finished product can be seen here.

For full disclosure: I'm not 100 percent satisfied with this. I only marked each location down once and just tried to put a ton of detail in on each of those schools where The Belt^TM changed hands. National champions got the brown marker for national champions even if other criteria were fulfilled. This meant a ton of details in places like St. Thomas and UWSP. Maybe after the season is over I'll go through and do multiple markers in places to show every category that was fulfilled in each gym.

I didn't count the number of games in each facility so I can't be sure where The Belt^TM has been the most, though the most likely answer is Salem (22 NCAA Tournament games, plus 3 ODAC Tournament games back in 2007 when this was first getting charted and I had no idea what I was getting into as a senior in high school preparing to go to a D3 school).

By my count, assuming I didn't miss anything, 114 colleges have either held The Belt^TM or hosted a game where The Belt^TM, not counting one non-D3 institution that hosted a competition, plus five other neutral site venues.

I also discovered that I've announced two games for The Belt^TM, one of which I didn't know about before when UW-Whitewater held It^TM following their 2014 national championship when they came to North Central for their old Tipoff Tournament. NCC was originally supposed to play Whitewater on the second day, but instead we played Trinity International and likely crippled our NCAA Tournament chances by doing so while also missing out on The Belt^TM. Alas.

Interestingly, Stevens Point doesn't have as much activity as Whitewater or Augustana.

[ronk]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

There's not much historically on the Lemoyne-Owen basketball page except they were the only HBCU team to win the D3 title; at some point they left D3( to D2?). I know Scranton won the title in '76 but don't know where the Belt was during that year(if it entered the NCAA tourney).

[Gregory Sager]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

There's not much historically on the Lemoyne-Owen basketball page except they were the only HBCU team to win the D3 title; at some point they left D3( to D2?).

I think that 1987-88 was the year that LeMoyne-Owen moved to D2.

[Gregory Sager]

I feel like we've reached the point where someone needs to take the summer and track down the entire Belt lineage from the moment LeMoyne-Owen won in 1975.  I know not every team's schedule is available online, but the schools themselves must have records of wins and losses.  A few phone calls, etc.

It's time.

I tried this before, a few years ago when this thread was just getting started. I ran into so many dead ends that eventually I just gave up on the project.