D3 Championship Belt

Started by Just Bill, January 24, 2007, 02:41:09 PM

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sac

In case anyone was wondering, the b*lt is still in New York.

Carnegie Mellon and Rochester get their shots this week in the Big Apple.

Mr. Ypsi

While I doubt that the Violets could go unscathed in a gauntlet of CM, Rochester, @Chicago, @WashU, and @Brandeis, the possiblility exists that a 10-4 UAA, and 17-6 NYU could miss the post-season.  Is a crisis team up and running in case the b*lt is not up for grabs in the tourney? :D

pabegg

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on February 13, 2008, 12:48:13 AM
While I doubt that the Violets could go unscathed in a gauntlet of CM, Rochester, @Chicago, @WashU, and @Brandeis, the possiblility exists that a 10-4 UAA, and 17-6 NYU could miss the post-season.  Is a crisis team up and running in case the b*lt is not up for grabs in the tourney? :D

I believe the established protocol is that the UAA champion would carry the belt into the NCAAs. But could NYU take another copy into the ECACs?

Gregory Sager

No, my understanding of the established protocol is that the BeltTM resides with whichever team won it until another team takes it away fair and square. Taking it away because that team does not appear in the tournament and giving it to the champion or tourney representative of that team's conference is not fair and square, since the BeltTM-holding team didn't lose it to a discrete opponent in a game of basketball.

Also, your way makes the BeltTM subservient to the dictates of the selection committee and to the process of a specific set of games (the tournament). That's like saying that Bruno Sammartino should've had his WWWF belt taken away from him in the mid-'70s because he missed several cards while recovering from a broken neck. Heresy!

When I composed the history of BeltTM holders last year it included at least one instance in which the BeltTM was retained over the off-season by a team that did not make the tournament. So be it. If the BeltTM holder isn't in the tournament, then the BeltTM holder isn't in the tournament. Simple as that. Other squads will just have to wait until next November to have an opportunity to snatch yon bespangled abdominal accoutrement from its current owner. You shouldn't be able to take away the BeltTM by selection committee fiat. You should only be able to take it away the fair-and-square way: By beating the BeltTM holder on the basketball court.
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pabegg

My memory failed me - actually the proposal that had been made a while back was that the last Belt holder who made the tournament got to defend the Belt in the tournament.

So that would be Rochester, after DQ'ing NYU and Emory.

Or, there could be no Belt defenses until the Walnut and Bronze holder is crowned - now this sounds much more like a boxing approach. Cart the unworn belt around to as many venues as possible in the tournament, build a prominent display case to hold it at Salem, and then bring it out after the title game. Heck, you could even invite NYU to be there for the handover.

I'm still intrigued by the idea of the Belt in the ECACs, where NYU would be qualified for.

Anyway, this is probably silliness, because I think NYU will lose one game (likely) or make the tournament with five more wins.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: pabegg on February 13, 2008, 08:54:23 AM
Anyway, this is probably silliness,

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Sager's right.  The belt stays with the team even if it doesn't make the tournament.  The belt was created to measure success in a different way, putting it into the tournament defeats that purpose.

NYU has it for now; they may have it until November.
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Just Bill

Yes, yes.  The BeltTM may only change hands in one of two ways:

1. By losing on the court to another D-III opponent.

2. By the head coach dramatically dropping the BeltTM into a garbage can, therefore setting up a "Royal Rumble" where 20 teams simultaneously attempt to score baskets while preventing the other opponents from climbing a ladder where the BeltTM is suspended high overhead.

#1 is far more common, but #2 is a LOT more fun.

That's it.  That's the list.
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hickory_cornhusker

If I was a head coach and my team had the belt I would have to fight the urge to not drop the belt in the garbage just so I can watch the Royal Rumble

Greek Tragedy

Knowing the fate of the belt will help me sleep tonight.  ;D
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Question of procedure, Bill: Are players allowed to hit each other with folding chairs in the event of a Royal Rumble?
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Just Bill

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Yes, but they must use the padded side of the chair.  We're not animals, after all.

And of course, NCAA sponsorship agreements dictate that chairs may only have Coca-Cola or Powerade logos.  Don't you dare swing that Mountain Dew chair!
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The first and still most accurate description of the D3 Championship BeltTM thread.

smedindy

Ah, actually during the royal rumble, players will be given time to make socratic arguments on why their team should have the belt, and then summarize Proust.
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sac

Quote from: Just Bill on February 15, 2008, 10:57:22 AM
Yes, but they must use the padded side of the chair.  We're not animals, after all.

And of course, NCAA sponsorship agreements dictate that chairs may only have Coca-Cola or Powerade logos.  Don't you dare swing that Mountain Dew chair!

Hope's out!

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