BB: General New England Discussion

[kscer]

I just heard that Chevalier of Keene signed with Lowell in the NECBL. It will be interesting to see how they use a d3 position player, or only use him for spotty relief.

[soxfan42585]

Any know anything about the NEIBA game at Fenway?

Anyone have any interesting summer updates regarding D3 players? Stats?

[Paul Heering]

soxfan,

the article on the front page should answer some of your questions about updates for d3 guys in summer leagues (well league).

[soxfan42585]

haha yeah i guess so now.

it amazes me how well d3 guys can match up against those elite players in those leagues.  Take Gilblair for example.  His stats are nasty.  Charlie Furbush lit up the Cape two summers ago and now is lighting up the Tigers minor league teams.

This kind of success will only garner more recognition for players in this region.

Quite frankly, not many high school kids in New England will get a look from bigger schools.  There are a lot of great d3 programs in New England and they are from great schools that give these kids good careers.  However, If scouts were to watch some of the d3 baseball conference tournaments and ncaa regional they would see a lot of potential and exciting baseball!


keep swingin em

soxfan

[santeezy06]

I recently saw Josh Cardoso of RIC playing for the Orleans Cardinals this summer!

[kscer]

I notice that there were only two players from NE teams chosen for all three teams of the D3 Baseball preseason all star team. Although I can't cite any specifics off the top of my head, this seems a little light given that there are 5 teams rated in the top 30. Maybe I'm all wet on this and Gilblair and the kid from St Joes are the only all america caliber players. Any comments?

[dgilblair]

I don't think it's a slight for NE players.  If you check the players selected I think you would be hard pressed to argue any shouldn't be there.  I think D3 did their homework and selected players that merit being selected.  OK here I go toot, toot.... Gilblair was 1st team AA pitcher his freshman year and 1st team AA utility his sophomore year.  He was selected 2nd team but if you look at the players selected it makes sense, even to me.  Yacko is awesome and the pitchers selected are pretty much lights out.  So again I don't think it's a New England thing at all.

Now with that said, I don't know how many teams have ever won a National Championship without having an AA on the team.  It seems that every team that makes it to Appleton has at least one AA.  So they are pretty much saying only St. Joe and ECSU are projected to get there with the selections they have made.

[kscer]

I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?

[dgilblair]

I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?

Don't know about 70-100 players EASILY sliding in unless it's at second base.  It goes back to my earlier statement as to what teams you think will make it to Appleton and who is their AA player or players?

[Spence]

I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off. I personally think Shawn Gilblair is a first team player because he does everything. Having seen a lot of him over the last two years, just when you think you have him beat, he beats you. He just doesn't look like an AA, he just does it. But enough of that. What keeps the 40 or 50 other top players off that list.? Is it team history?

I agree. I thought both Yacko and Gilblair should have been first teamers, even if one of them had to be voted 2nd at UTL. I would take either of them over the people that were voted #1 at the infield positions they usually play.

Maybe the two best PLAYERS in Division III this year. Shame that one was 2nd team anything.

[Jim Dixon]

I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off.

You are not far off in thinking that there could 70-100 player who should be considered.  If you look at all the 1st, 2nd team regional All-Americans in 2007 who are back in school you get about 100-120 players of which about 30-40% are from the first team AA lists. 

I think that the drop off past the best 50-60 players starts to drop off pretty quick.  With 35 names on the preseason AA list, that leaves about 20 who were considered and did not quite make the list. 

[Jim Dixon]

I would take either  (Yacko and Gilblair)of them over the people that were voted #1 at the infield positions they usually play.

I don't think many would disagree.  Yacko is particularly important since he plays both 3B and SS so well that it gives Chapman a lot of flexibility to who they play on the field.

[dgilblair]

I sort of agree with you. There are probably 70 - 100 players who could easily slide into that list,  but what is it that keeps them off.

You are not far off in thinking that there could 70-100 player who should be considered.  If you look at all the 1st, 2nd team regional All-Americans in 2007 who are back in school you get about 100-120 players of which about 30-40% are from the first team AA lists. 

I think that the drop off past the best 50-60 players starts to drop off pretty quick.  With 35 names on the preseason AA list, that leaves about 20 who were considered and did not quite make the list. 

Sorry Kscer, I thought you meant 70-100 on top of those teams. 
Anyway I checked the Championship web site and the last seven years there was at least one AA on the championship team. 

07 Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ.
06 Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
05 Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
04 David Peterson   Junior   George Fox Univ.
04 Scott Hyde   Junior   George Fox Univ.
03 Ryan France   Senior   Chapman University
02 John Kubachka   Senior   Eastern Connecticut State (2nd team)
01 Jake Mauer   Senior   University of St. Thomas (2nd team)
00 Belson                   Senior   Montclair State University

Who from NE is not on the 08 teams now that will be there at the end of the year?  Who knows they may end up champs.  Maybe there is a NE slight.   

[dgilblair]

I checked all the teams from the last three years that made an apperance at Fox Cities to see if they had an AA on their team 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.  Only Marietta last year didn't have one. 

So that pretty much says you need an AA on your team to play AT Fox Cities.

07
Jason Glushon   Senior   Emory Univ
Jordan Zimmermann   Junior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Pt.
Jeff Livek                   Senior                   Carthage College
Randy Re                   Senior   E. Connecticut State
Devin Drag   Senior   Chapman Univ.
No AA                      Marietta College
Joseph Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ
Jimmy Dougher   Senior   State Univ. of N.Y.-Cortland

06
Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
Scott Guillerault   Sophomore   Wheaton College
Buddy Klovstad   Senior   Chapman Univ.
Rob Bowness   Junior   Montclair State Univ.
Shawn Gilblair   Freshman   E. Connecticut State Univ.
Chuck Brehm   Senior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Point
Aaron Thor   Senior   Aurora Univ.
Blake Rice   Junior   North Carolina Wesleyan College

05
Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Andy Mead   Senior   State University of New York-Cortland
Luke Ulman   Senior   The College of Wooster
Matt Scherbring   Senior   Wartburg College
Buddy Klovstad   Junior   Chapman University
Mike Rucci                   Senior   Rowan University
John Schoenholtz   Junior   Hampden-Sydney College
Jeff Natale   Senior   Trinity College

[Spence]

I checked all the teams from the last three years that made an apperance at Fox Cities to see if they had an AA on their team 1st, 2nd, or 3rd.  Only Marietta last year didn't have one. 

So that pretty much says you need an AA on your team to play AT Fox Cities.

07
Jason Glushon   Senior   Emory Univ
Jordan Zimmermann   Junior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Pt.
Jeff Livek                   Senior                   Carthage College
Randy Re                   Senior   E. Connecticut State
Devin Drag   Senior   Chapman Univ.
No AA                      Marietta College
Joseph Augustine   Senior   Kean Univ
Jimmy Dougher   Senior   State Univ. of N.Y.-Cortland

06
Mike Eisenberg   Senior   Marietta College
Scott Guillerault   Sophomore   Wheaton College
Buddy Klovstad   Senior   Chapman Univ.
Rob Bowness   Junior   Montclair State Univ.
Shawn Gilblair   Freshman   E. Connecticut State Univ.
Chuck Brehm   Senior   Univ. of Wis.-Stevens Point
Aaron Thor   Senior   Aurora Univ.
Blake Rice   Junior   North Carolina Wesleyan College

05
Greg Reinhard   Junior   University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
Andy Mead   Senior   State University of New York-Cortland
Luke Ulman   Senior   The College of Wooster
Matt Scherbring   Senior   Wartburg College
Buddy Klovstad   Junior   Chapman University
Mike Rucci                   Senior   Rowan University
John Schoenholtz   Junior   Hampden-Sydney College
Jeff Natale   Senior   Trinity College

Or being in Fox Cities makes you more likely to be an all-american.