BB: General New England Discussion

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d3ball123

Moc-

If you check out "nebaseball44"'s e-mail address, it becomes very clear which program he is involved with, and in what capacity he is involved.

d3ball123

...Which makes one wonder if he is in a position to be publicly questioning that certain team's flaws in this forum.

KSCfan

Guys if Babson does have 4 quality starters, and i have not seen Babson play this year at all so i will take your word that they are 4 quality starters its not that big deal if they dont have a 5th.  In the regionals you can win the darn with 4 quality starters as long as you stay in the winners bracket, but that is true of any team.  Yeah you may need to piece together a game with a couple from this guy and a couple from that but so wont every other team. The regionals are some great baseball and I expect all teams will have an all hands on deck approach to their games, so if you have 4 starters that are as good as advertised (a la Trinity last year) you should be fine.  LIke i have said i have not seen Babson play but will Babsons 3 and 4 starters be able to stop the powerful offenses of the LEC and Trinity?  I dont know i am just asking that question.

moc323

Hey, D3BALL123....Thanks--I will do that...immediately!   I guess I had trusted everyone to be contributing from somewhat similar levels in here. ---as fans only---except moderators, etc whom show whom they are and act accordingly from what I've seen...   I hope this isn't going to be disappointing to me, from that standpoint--when I do check his email, as you say.    I am new in here as you know---and try to share what "limited" info I have as a "true fan"-----not in here to take a stand for a school for which I'm employed, etc of part of a paid staff, etc.   I hope that's not what you're hinting at??---but--I appreciate the "heads up" in any event-- and will now check the email, as you suggest.   This would be beyond disappointing, if I'm reading into your message correctly.   wow.  
Thanks, in advance, for watching my back---and/or for watching everyone else at our levels backs?      I had assumed it was just another dad/uncle, etc of a conference foe whom was witnessing games from the opposite side of the "bleachers" as I was on....    sounds like that's not the case?   will be back here soon...    again--thank you.  

moc323

Hey, KCSFAN---Good to see you back in general new eng topic!   Great question, will their 4 starters be able to stop all the potent offenses in this area?     In short---no way.   Can they "limit" those offenses, to some degree---"maybe--- yes"?    Di I sound confident?  ??? :))   Your point about a team w/4 quality starters, is exactly where i was coming from.   That gives them "a shot" at doing well.....   and bingo---as you say---they would need to find that "winners' bracket" early---and often, like all others.   Piecing together other pitching, will be possible---but---they really need to win the early games and hope to avoid back-to-back games vs the best hitting teams early in the regionals.   Maybe stating some obvious here---but---I think a couple of those USM/ECSU/Trinity teams, could lose game 1--then roar back, mostly with their bats, to get to late rounds.   I would not feel great about Babson's chances, if they need to "roar back" with their bats....in the losers' bracket....  Good luck to Keene State---I lost track of where they stand in the raindrops now....    Not sure how their pitching is this year---but--I did notice them atop the batting avg in the U.S. !!!    Nice!!   That has to give you the, "we can win any game" feeling......as an 8 run inning can happen in a heartbeat!     

wordsmith

Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 10:36:15 AM
Hey, KCSFAN---  Good luck to Keene State---I lost track of where they stand in the raindrops now....    Not sure how their pitching is this year---but--I did notice them atop the batting avg in the U.S. !!!    Nice!!   That has to give you the, "we can win any game" feeling......as an 8 run inning can happen in a heartbeat!     

I posted this back in early March...KSC is as good 1-7 or 8 as any one.

Word ;D

D3baseball.com / New England Region / Re: BB: LEC: Little East Conference  on: March 16, 2009, 12:49:35 pm 

363dp,
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As I have said here before, KSC is, IMO, one year away from a trip to the Appleton. The pitchers are strong, but young and will have their ups and downs. The line-up 1-9 is not as strong as Wheaton or ESCU, but 1-7, even 1-8 is every bit as strong or better. KSC as well has players on the bench who would start for many other teams.

1- Jeff Perkins -Senior(I agree with the DChevy-most underrated player in the LEC) Last yr- .391- 26 RBI 13 SB 50R
2- Jamie Chevalier -Senior - Great stick could hit anywahere in the line-up    .355 -2 -34
3- Keith Patnode - Junior D-I transfer 2nd best left handed hitter to come out of Keene in 35 years
4-Anthony Cipolla - Soph - Short compact tough out with decent power         .318 - 30 RBI
5-Bobby Doyon - Soph - 2008- ECAC POY; LEC Rookie of the Year               .408 - 6- 55
6- Cody Callhan - Freshman - Bam Bam I'll call him for now .647 11-17 2 HRs, 5 Dbls, 14 RBI in first 4 games
7- Beau Derek - Senior - A perfect 10 Last year .296 13 hrs 50 RBI
8 -Jon Barber - Soph - Excellent hitter- Solid stick if ankle heals last Yr - .439- 1- 13

....
Pretty good line-up mates..... Interesting mix with the Freshmen pitching, will the bats give the young arms time to mature? Will the defense hold-up, especially at the corners in the outfield, and 3rd base?

Word
Word

moc323

Thanks word-----a man not afraid to go out on a limb....gotta love that stuff!   Love the stats again---and, may have to give you a (10) "Beau Derek" on your prediction from early March.......    it's almost time to "play ball"....as we are inside 1 week now, from the 1st pitch in our regionals....
Oh---thanks for sending YA BOY my way yesterday---so, we could GIVE HIM A LIL "no boy" adjustment....:))

d3spectator

Moc,

As you can see from other posts I have put up on here I'm kind of a stat junky, but also realize that stats mean nothing in a sense that baseball is a funny game.  Things kind of fall the way they may on any given day.  But I also realize stats don't lie either so this is what I dug up and put together (relatively quickly).

Babson certainly did not duck any in-region opponents playing the likes of Wheaton, Suffolk, Keene, Curry, and USM which is in my opinion a testament to the coaching staff challenging his players.  I'm looking at the box scores of those games and seeing that when Babson played Suffolk, Suffolk threw what looks to be their #3 guy.  When Babson played Curry, Curry threw not a legit starter seems to be a spot starter as he has 3 of starts in 11 appearances.  Babson plays USM, USM throws what seems to be a spot starter (seems like all of USM is spot starters) but he has an ERA of 6.87 (Yates).

What I'm trying to put forth here is yes they did not duck any opponents this year on their schedule, but of those tough opponents the only wins they had were against Wheaton.  And of those losses the teams that played seemed to be throwing their 3 or 4 guys and not 1 or 2s.  They did face Fahey who is a legitimate All-American candidate (lost) and they did beat Gingras (All-American from his junior campaign, doesn't seem to be having quite the same year. Hurt? ???) but other than that no real pitching seen.  So it would seem that their offense didn't fear well   against 3 and 4's how are they going to do when they see 1's and 2's?

As a team they bat .309, which is less than average, especially when you compare the teams that are going to be in this upcoming regional.

You guys do have Aizenstadt who seems to be putting himself together quite a year, but does he match up against Bayer, Therian, Gilblair, Musson, etc...?  And if they do match up (which is not unforseen), can Babson's offense hang with the 1s and 2s of that of ECSU and Trinity?

This is not a knock on Babson at all and I am a firm believer in that baseball is baseball and anything can happen.  Maybe I'm just bored ::) Just wondering what your thoughts are? Have a good one.

Spec

moc323

SPEC------Nice job, once again......w/stats.   No arguments here either.   Thus, my "Cinderella" approach, as a Babson fan.    Aizenstadt does match up with any/all of those you name....trust me there.  I have witnessed Fahey, Gingras, Simmons (Wheaton closer---all American, I believe?) and 2 outstanding freshmen s.p. for M.I.T. also...each may have been 5-0, 5-1 approx last check...(didn't go back to get their names, sorry)    Aizenstadt takes a back seat to none of the above.  IMO .......     Who won the World Series last year?   the top batting team?  nope.  top pitching team?  nope.....     Phillies?   yup.     As the Beatles once sang...."Come together, right now"....     Ok---a whole different meaning !!!!   But----I say, beware the hot team whom plays well together in May.....in a 4-5 game tourney?    Maybe not Babson this year---agree---but---YO, Adrian.........was it last year they lost in National finals?   I gotta go check....   memory fails me sometimes, as I hurdle that 5-0 marker:(((

TheGNAC

Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
Babson certainly did not duck any in-region opponents playing the likes of Wheaton, Suffolk, Keene, Curry, and USM which is in my opinion a testament to the coaching staff challenging his players.  I'm looking at the box scores of those games and seeing that when Babson played Suffolk, Suffolk threw what looks to be their #3 guy.  When Babson played Curry, Curry threw not a legit starter seems to be a spot starter as he has 3 of starts in 11 appearances.  Babson plays USM, USM throws what seems to be a spot starter (seems like all of USM is spot starters) but he has an ERA of 6.87 (Yates).


Hi Spec,

As most can see from my username, I'm quite familiar with GNAC teams, Suffolk and St. Joe's, in particular. Just wanted to correct you a bit on the Suffolk - Babson game. The pitcher for Suffolk in that one, Jackson, is probably their #1, not their #3, although statistically you'd have a case for that I suppose. Still, he's leading the Rams in innings pitched and strikeouts, and has drawn (and beaten) Suffolk's top competition for the last 3 years.

Not sure if that hinders or supports your argument, just thought I'd put it out there for veracity.

moc323

GNAC--Thanks for beating me to that box score and to Suffolks roster, etc...  I want to say, that was a 2-1 Suffolk victory.....so, a well played/pitched game on both sides, maybe---if I recall the right game?   

TheGNAC

Quote from: moc323 on May 06, 2009, 11:26:42 AM
GNAC--Thanks for beating me to that box score and to Suffolks roster, etc...  I want to say, that was a 2-1 Suffolk victory.....so, a well played/pitched game on both sides, maybe---if I recall the right game?   

That's the one.

http://babsonathletics.com/sports/m-basebl/2008-09/news/090324


d3spectator

GNAC,

Thanks for that, I was going off of ERA and and record which is naive of me.  Thanks for the correction as I haven't seen Suffolk play (or Babson) for that matter.  Just going off of stats here.

And I was trying to make a case against or for Babson I was trying to show that its going to be a tough road for them with the teams in this year's regional.  But then again I think it's going to be tough for everybody. Baseball is baseball, can't run out the clock here, got to throw the ball over the plate, anything can happen 8)

Spec

d3spectator

Sorry WASN'T trying to make case against or for Babson.

Spec

ECSUalum

Quote from: d3spectator on May 06, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
GNAC,

Thanks for that, I was going off of ERA and and record which is naive of me.  Thanks for the correction as I haven't seen Suffolk play (or Babson) for that matter.  Just going off of stats here.

And I was trying to make a case against or for Babson I was trying to show that its going to be a tough road for them with the teams in this year's regional.  But then again I think it's going to be tough for everybody. Baseball is baseball, can't run out the clock here, got to throw the ball over the plate, anything can happen 8)

Spec

Spec,

Always liked Babson, year in and year out always in the running.  PLUS an outstanding Baseball facility!!!!!  One of the nicest in the NE.