BB: General New England Discussion

ECSUalum · April 19, 2010, 08:28:01 AM

Quote from: Hobbesy on April 18, 2010, 10:19:20 PM
What a day around New Enlgand!

The outcomes of these games and the way the season is going is giving us something to talk about on these boards!!!!

Also added some interviews with Trin-Tufts coaches!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/

Hobbesy,

Again, love the blog, AND, the interviews are superb!!!

ECSUalum · April 19, 2010, 12:23:04 PM

Quote from: 363dp on April 18, 2010, 09:08:26 PM
What about 2008, 2007, 2006............... Yes they missed the regionals last year.

363dp,

See my, (Big Poppa's), comments re Wheaton on the D3baseball.com top 25 thread. Predicting they make a move into top 25 soon if not this week.

Bet you are glad they do not have to play Curry College again

Rick Vaughn · April 19, 2010, 02:56:50 PM

For what it's worth - My NE Regional rankings after this weekends events:

1. WNEC (25-6) - Winners of 9 straight and fresh off a sweep of a solid Wentworth.
2. Wheaton (21-7) - Coming off domination of WPI. They just hope not to see Curry.
3. Tufts (17-3) - In the driver's seat in the NESCAC and swept at DH versus Trin.
4. RIC (17-7) - Leading the LEC with a huge DH vs ECSU looming.
5. Wesleyan (21-7) - Can clinch the NESCAC West w/series win vs. Williams this weekend.
6. ECSU (19-7) - Bad loss to PSU this weekend. Busy week coming with Suffolk, Trin, Wesleyan, and RIC.
7. Endicott (20-9) - Their real challenges are still to come with DH's left vs. Curry and WNEC.
8. St. Joes (23-10) - No great wins, but they beat who they should.
9. Bowdoin (20-7) - Struggled this weekend with Colby, but I had them ranked too high to know them all the way out.
10. Babson (18-11) - Hanging on, but headed in the wrong direction. The wait for Aizenstadt continues.

Hobbesy · April 19, 2010, 05:02:41 PM

1. Tufts- Have won 12 of 13 and DH sweep of Trin
2. Wheaton- Lost two to Curry but have been beating up on everyone else
3. WNEC- have won nine straight and have played a great out of conference schedule
4. Bowdoin- Swept by Colby but that should not drop them to far
5. ECSU- tough loss to Plymouth but this week will be a test
6. Wesleyan- having a great year but still not impressing me yet
7. Trinity- Tough losses to Tufts and need to take it personal as Decker said yesterday
8. RIC- Leading the LEC but two big games against ECSU this weekend
9. Worcester St.- leading the MASCAC and scoring some runs
10. St. Joe's- Had WPI here intially but the Monks have played some good baseball.

No matter what the order is this week it is sure to change by next week, drastically.

GBearsAlum15 · April 19, 2010, 07:17:04 PM

Both rankings above seem to be pretty accurate to this point. Out of both Rick Vaughn and Hobbesy's New England rankings, I feel that Wheaton and WNEC are the strongest teams (currently, subject to change). The problem with most of the top teams in New England this year is clearly the pitching. Having said that, Wheaton and WNEC are the two best teams in my opinion because they have a good combination of solid pitching and hitting. The two other teams near the bottom of your rankings that have that combination are Trinity and Worcester St. As long as Trinity can sneak into the NESCAC tournament, I think they can very easily win it and do damage. A team like ECSU can also very easily do damage if their pitching gets healthy, because we always know that they will hit the crap out of the ball. Should be an interesting next week or so in New England and the rankings will shape into form.

wordsmith · April 19, 2010, 08:29:00 PM

1.Wheaton
2.Tufts
3.WNEC
4.Worcester St.
5. Endicott
6.Trinity
7.Wesleyan
8.St. Joe's
9.RIC
10. EConn

Best of the Rest: Bowdoin, Castleton State, Curry, Williams, WPI, Babson,

Hobbesy & Rick V.always have so much more in-depth analysis than me. Great job as always guys. But for what it is worth. Also I always try to highlight a team not otherwise on the radar screen of others....a few weeks ago it was the Worcester St. squad, then St. Joe's; this week it is Castleton St.

Word

ecfaninri · April 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM

Here's my top ten to this point of the season.
1.Tufts
2.Wesleyan
3.Bowdoin
4.WNEC
5.Trinity
6.Worcester St.
7.WPI
8.Wheaton
9..RIC
10.Eastern Conn St

Wentworth
Westfield St.
Castleton St.

ECSUalum.....
The Warriors will be there in the end. Pitching will be key. Matt is healthy and Musson will be ready for Trinity tomorrow.

ECSUalum · April 19, 2010, 09:14:20 PM

Quote from: ecfaninri on April 19, 2010, 09:12:36 PM
Here's my top ten to this point of the season.
1.Tufts
2.Wesleyan
3.Bowdoin
4.WNEC
5.Trinity
6.Worcester St.
7.WPI
8.Wheaton
9..RIC
10.Eastern Conn St

Wentworth
Westfield St.
Castleton St.

ECSUalum.....
The Warriors will be there in the end. Pitching will be key. Matt is healthy and Musson will be ready for Trinity tomorrow.

WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seen you tomorrow

Hobbesy · April 19, 2010, 10:16:19 PM

Good day in New England. Marathon Monday!

WNEC won a marathon doubleheader over Anna Maria and the MASCAC saw four sweeps.

The season is coming to a close and every game is important!

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/

NEBaseballFan · April 20, 2010, 01:11:35 AM

These polls look terrible, how do you not have Curry College in the top 10? if not, why is wheaton that high. Curry beat them 3 times this year with ease, no problem. 2 neutral sites, 1 @ wheaton. Curry embarrassed Babson too. All this tells me is that TCCC could be the strongest in N.E.

wordsmith · April 20, 2010, 08:19:26 AM

Quote from: NEBaseballFan on April 20, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
These polls look terrible, how do you not have Curry College in the top 10? if not, why is wheaton that high. Curry beat them 3 times this year with ease, no problem. 2 neutral sites, 1 @ wheaton. Curry embarrassed Babson too. All this tells me is that TCCC could be the strongest in N.E.

NEBaseballFan,

You raise an excellent point, especially regarding Wheaton & Curry. I think the thing that hurt Curry was a 3-4 run in early to mid-April. They have rebounded with 4 straight wins, all over quality opponents (Wheaton (2), Wentworth, Babson). Bottom line is I rated Curry lower than I should have. Curry would move in my poll to 7th or 8th, Wheaton is still #1.

Not sure I agree as much about TCCC strength. Whilst a couple of teams are very solid at the top of this lame-duck conference, the rest are not what I would call elite.

Word

wordsmith · April 20, 2010, 09:08:26 AM

By process of elimination given the most recent National Poll released D3Baseball and dated April 18, 2010--> here are their Top 8 for New England:

1. Trinity
2. EConn
3. Wheaton
4. Tufts
5. Bowfoin
6. WNEC
7. Worcester St.
8. Curry

There ya go NEBaseballFan, more vindication for the Colonels

Word

straightHeat3 · April 20, 2010, 09:49:23 AM

Can someone explain why EConn is still ranked?

Sitting at 19-8; dropping two at home this weekend to PSU and Suffolk? Don't see to many quality wins on that sched...
Am im missing something or what?

straightHeat3 · April 20, 2010, 10:00:52 AM

New ABCA Poll, April 20th

Rank School Record Points Last Rank
1. (5) Wis.-Whitewater 23-2 236 3
2. (2) Johns Hopkins (Md.) 30-3 234 4
3. St. Thomas (Minn.) 20-4 212 1
4. Chapman (Calif.) 24-7 199 2
5. Wooster (Ohio) 25-7 198 6
6. (1) Birmingham-Southern (Ala.) 33-4 196 11
7. Shenandoah (Va.) 33-7 174 14
8. Redlands (Calif.) 27-6 170 7
9. Mississippi College 28-7 166 5
10. St. Scholastica (Minn.) 26-3 163 16
11. Marietta (Ohio) 24-6 162 10
12. Heidelberg (Ohio) 24-6 159 9
13. Cortland (N.Y.) State 24-6 158 15
14. Pomona-Pitzer (Calif.) 26-8 157 8
15. Trinity (Texas) 28-7 128 21
16. Pacific Lutheran (Wash.) 27-7 126 17
17. Salisbury (Md.) 24-8 109 12
18. Rochester (N.Y.) 24-4 103 23
19. Linfield (Ore.) 24-10 93 20
20. Eastern Connecticut State 19-7 85 22
21. Rose-Hulman (Ind.) 23-6 68 27
22. Texas-Tyler 28-10 53 24
23. Plattsburgh (N.Y.) State 22-6 4 0 18
24. Trinity (Conn.) 14-6 39 13
25. Tufts (Mass.) 17-3 38 nr
26. Western New England (Mass.) 25-6 37 rv
27. Wis.-Stevens Point 18-7 26 rv
28. Kean (N.J.) 20-9 24 19
29. Washington & Jefferson (Pa.) 19-5 23 nr
30. North Central (Ill.) 20-5 22 nr

Also receiving votes (alphabetically): Adrian (Mich.), Alvernia (Pa.), Augustana (Ill.), Concordia-Chicago (Ill.),
FDU-Florham (N.J.), George Fox (Ore.), Hampden-Sydney (Va.), Huntingdon (Ala.), Mary Washington (Va.),
Methodist (N.C.), Penn State Behrend, Rowan (N.J.), Texas Lutheran, Webster (Mo.), Wheaton (Mass.).

wordsmith · April 20, 2010, 11:30:19 AM

Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word