BB: General New England Discussion

[YA, Boy]

Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word

I hear you on this big time word but the only thing is what teams other than Tufts and WNEC are deserving of better ranking than the EConns and Wheatons and trinitys of the world?  None of them are having terrible years, and all 3 have shown that they are capable of being in CWS form this year. Babson and WPI dropped out of their shots with weak second halves. Curry is close but still not even on top of their own conference sure they beat wheaton 3 times...but who else???

A team like tufts however is starting to get that recognition like the team coming out of the woodwork becasue they are consistently playing good baseball...bowdoin was that team earlier but theyve had recent struggles also.

My point is the reason temas have their reputation is coaching and in the end good coaching will almost always have the advantage over poor coaching that may have more talent, because the good coaches can squeeze every bit out of every player they have to get the W.

Ya, Boy

[ECSUalum]

Reputation, Reputation, Reputation. Name Recognition, same reason some politicians get re-elected despite their performance. easier for the voter to punch the name of a known than to have to research that of an unknown.

The Coaches figure-(my speculation/IMO), like many of us that EConn will be there in the end in NE.

EConn is the Notre Dame of College Football they will always be ranked higher than their record or performance might indicate. Some of that, at least IMHO, is deserved/earned, some unfair to schools like KSC who for years was right on EConn's heels but seldom got the national acclaim.

Same goes for USM, Trinity and Wheaton for that matter. They have to be really bad before they are unranked. Although I have not seen either EConn, Wheaton or Trinity be 'really-bad", and that is not a pejorative comment as many teams would consider their really-bad as a successful campaign. Again, what do all of these teams have in common-recent trips to CWS.

Word

Word,

Well stated.  I posted on the D3 baseball top 25 poll thread earlier this season that these polls are around 50 % correct, ( ie 50% of teams ranked in 1st D3 poll appear in final D3 poll, based on historical stats I ran earlier this year and posted), so teams should not be so concerned with them.  Historic appearances in NE Regionals, CWS and National Championships buy you points on the Collegiate Baseball and D3 polls, but as stated before, keep winning  and you will show up on the polls sooner or later.  Conversely keep losing, ( ECSU is in a bit of a spell now), and sooner or later you dissapear from the polls and replaced.

Straight,  You make a good case for Curry, so if they win thier Conference, then thier tourney, PRESTO, rankings!!!

PS congrats to Wheaton for appearance on D3 poll this week!!  Maybe WNEC and Curry are not far behind!!

[wordsmith]

I cannot believe the Coaches that vote in these polls have the time to do the research necessary to place teams in their proper position. Heck, none of the posters of this site have lives and we miss tons of stuff (read the recent rant by D3BaseballFan re: Curry). Can't see a coach out in Oregon looking up Wheatons record against Curry, etc.

Reminds me of a situation that occurred last Fall. Tim Tebow - Steve Spurrier

July 24, 2009
South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier admits he mistakenly didn't vote for Tim Tebow

......Spurrier said he asked South Carolina Director of Football Operations Jamie Speronis to vote for the coaches All-SEC team, then bring the ballot to him for final approval. He admits that after seeing a couple of players' names whom he deemed worthy of first-team honors, he signed off on it without actually looking closely at the remainder of the ballot.

At least College Football & D3 baseball are similar in that they decide things on the field...(cough, cough)


And so it goes....

Word

[ECSUalum]

Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6
Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    

[Hobbesy]

Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen 

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[ECSUalum]

Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  

http://ned3baseball.wordpress.com/

Hobbesy et al,

If ECSU does not win the LEC Tournament and does not get Pool C bid, does NCAA NE Regional still get played in Mansfield?  I checked the NCAA Handbook, and I think they can change venue if they choose to

[Hobbesy]

I am pretty sure no matter what, the Regional is held at Mansfield.

[RSSmith]

Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6
Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    

ECSUalum, I just sent you an email with the Presto data in a spreadsheet.  I tried to post it on the other board without success.

[Stump]

Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen 

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Hobbesy:
Good analysis in your blog. Well thought out. Always like your insight and comments. Keep it coming!

[CrashDavisD3]

Great find ECSUalum!

As for this week...strange things could happen  

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Hobbesy et al,

If ECSU does not win the LEC Tournament and does not get Pool C bid, does NCAA NE Regional still get played in Mansfield?  I checked the NCAA Handbook, and I think they can change venue if they choose to

Last year the West Region was at Linfield College in McMinnville Oregon. Linfield did not make it into the regionals last year but still hosted the tournament with Linfield coaches and some players present working and prepping the fields.

A few years ago the West Region was scheduled to be played in Abilene TX at McMurry.
A few days before the start of the tournament it was rescheduled and move to Orange, CA @ Chapman due to a week long of heavy thunderstorms forecasted in Abilene, TX. The following year the regional was played in Abilene, TX. Not sure if that type of last  minute change would ever happen again but it has happen once in the recent past.

[Hobbesy]

Most Recent New England Poll Released today

1. Tufts (4)                       17-3 39 pts.
2. Western New England 25-6 32 pts.
2. Wheaton (1)                21-7 32 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut    19-7 24 pts.
5. Bowdoin                      20-7 21 pts.
6. Trinity                            14-6 9 pts.
7. Rhode Island College     17-7 7 pts.
7. Worcester State           20-5-1 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (6), WPI (2), Curry (1)

[wordsmith]

Most Recent New England Poll Released today

1. Tufts (4)                       17-3 39 pts.
2. Western New England 25-6 32 pts.
2. Wheaton (1)                21-7 32 pts.
4. Eastern Connecticut    19-7 24 pts.
5. Bowdoin                      20-7 21 pts.
6. Trinity                            14-6 9 pts.
7. Rhode Island College     17-7 7 pts.
7. Worcester State           20-5-1 7 pts.
Also Receiving Votes: Wesleyan (6), WPI (2), Curry (1)

Hmmmm,

No Endicott or St. Joe's?   --> ATTICA ATTICA ATTICA

Word

[GBearsAlum15]

Word--

I think that Endicott being left out of the regional rankings is ok for now. However, if they go 3-1 or even 2-2 against WNEC and Curry, they should get some serious consideration as a contender and be somewhere in the middle of the NE rankings. As for St. Joe's, they just win games. Even though the GNAC is not strong at all (other than Suffolk), they play a solid non-conference schedule and win the games they are supposed to win.

[ECSUalum]

Some New England teams with the lastest SOSs and National Ranking

See D3 Baseball top 25 thread for top 25 ranked teams with SOSs and national SOS rankings

Keene State is #6!!!

OTHERS OF NOTE:                                                       SOS   Rank
Tufts                                                                           .606     15
Buena Vista                                                                .587    19
Rowan                                                                        .600     18
Curry                                                                          .556     39
Bates                                                                          .630     3
Edgewood                                                                   .578     11
Rutgers-Newark                                                         .589      14
RPI                                                                         .588     16
South Maine                                                                .              579     21
Keene State                                                                              .618      6
Stevens Tech                                                             .597      8
UW Superior                                                                .597      7
Martin Luther                                                               .588    9    

ECSUalum, I just sent you an email with the Presto data in a spreadsheet.  I tried to post it on the other board without success.

KSSmith
Thank You Sir, will take a look tomorrow.  Just got back from Trinity @ ECSU.  ECSU 8 Trinity 1 on a 4 hitter by Will Musson, 13Ks. Looks healthy again after the hamstring pull during the JHU thumping in Chandler AZ.   Hopefully this will get the Warriors back on track

[Hobbesy]

Another good day of baseball...

Endicott oh so close against Curry...should be an interesting tournament none the less...

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