BB: General New England Discussion

[wordsmith]

Hobbesy,

Thank you for the great work. I did a quick study on SOS for the top NY teams....

CUNYC - Staten Island - 335

E8 - St. John's Fisher - 80

LL- Rochester - 144, Skidmore - 115

SUNYAC - Cortland 60 (also ranked #12 National Poll), Plattsburgh 12 (ranked #34 National Poll), Oneonta 39 (ranked #40 National Poll)

SKY - Farmingdale - 132


The SUNYAC is the one of most interest to me. Three Nationally Ranked teams all with SOS of 60 or better! hmmm

We shall see what the future holds.

Thanks for the great discussion.

Word

[YA, Boy]

Guys,

What decisions are made or should I say what is taken into consideration when a team leaves their region to play in another...I guess my question is what keeps the decision makers from placing a team like wheaton or the LEC winner or CCC winner in the NY region?

If the NY region is a bit lesser than our own here in NE then wouldnt it make sense to send a higher ranked team to NY to almost kind of make the possibilty of the CWS a bit more competitive???

just something I've thought about over the years and never really knew, it may sound rediculous but whatever.

thanks,

Ya, Boy

[Hobbesy]

Ya Boy,

Good question.  It all comes down to record and where a team ranks.  My freshmen year we had 16 or 17 losses but won the LEC.  Our poor record and the fact USM also got an at-large big kind of made it an easy decision to send us out.  That could happen if a lower seed wins the MASCAC or the LEC for that matter.

And that sense could have been made last year with Trinity.  The Bantams were an automatic qualifier but some felt that they should have been shipped out to New York to be the #1 team in that region instead of Cortland St. (who had a down year).  That didnt happen.  Instead WNEC was sent out and three of the top six teams in the country (ecsu, usm, trinity) were all in the same region.

[RSSmith]

Guys,

What decisions are made or should I say what is taken into consideration when a team leaves their region to play in another...I guess my question is what keeps the decision makers from placing a team like wheaton or the LEC winner or CCC winner in the NY region?

If the NY region is a bit lesser than our own here in NE then wouldnt it make sense to send a higher ranked team to NY to almost kind of make the possibilty of the CWS a bit more competitive???

just something I've thought about over the years and never really knew, it may sound rediculous but whatever.

thanks,

Ya, Boy

I think convenience is an issue.  In 2008 and 2009, Hopkins was shipped from the Mid-Atlantic to the South, due in no small part to the fact that Hopkins was the closest qualifier to the South regional site.  In both cases, the South and the Mid-Atlantic were 8-team regionals.  Historically, the NCAA hasn't shipped out the host team or the #1 seed.  There always seems to be some speculation that it's done to separate two potential CWS teams, but I haven't seen that.  My guess is that realignment occurs when the first alternate in a region is palpably better than the last team in an adjacent region.  I haven't researched that.

[Hobbesy]

Well I guess the CCC is up for grabs...Curry goes down on day 2!

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[Hobbesy]

St. Joe's and Suffolk win in the GNAC

Endicott cruises and Wentworth stays alive in the CCC

Wheaton wins 10th straight

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[Stump]

Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?

[straightHeat3]

Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?

Stump - enjoyed the stats.
I think its a combo of both; not sure about the other games but I know in the Endicott / Anna Maria bashing the Amcats handed out 7 walks; and also hit 3 batters in just 2 innings!! At the end of 2, Endicott was leading 7-1; with Endicott only having ONE hit. Ugly baseball if you ask me. Hopefully we will see some better pitching and closer games as we have some championship games coming up.

[3rdgenerationnation]

Wow, the scores just keep going:
Endicott 22 Anna Maria 4 (in a winner's bracket game!)
RIC 22 Babson 6 (what has happened to Babson? injuries catch up to them?)

4 games over 20 runs
6 other games double figures (including 2 with both teams doubling up)

16 games today- 10 of 16  62.5% at least one team scoring double figures
12 of 32 teams  in double digits 37.5%
Sounds more like results expected in March rather than tourney time results but it's what we've seen all year. Is pitching really that poor or is hitting that good?

Well, there is the bats.  Also, I think by this time of year hitters have started to accumulate enough at bats to really get it going at the same time pitchers are running out of gas. 

[Stump]

Running out of gas?    Most competitive teams have been playing 7 or 8 weeks now and there are not a lot of pitchers with over 45 innings. 5 or 6 innings a week and out of gas?
GNAC - 8 teams averaging almost 35 games per team have only 22 pitchers with over 30 innings.

I know metal bats are an advantage for the hitters but pitchers should not be out of gas. They should be at full strength, building for playoffs.

[kscer]

Running out of gas?    Most competitive teams have been playing 7 or 8 weeks now and there are not a lot of pitchers with over 45 innings. 5 or 6 innings a week and out of gas?
GNAC - 8 teams averaging almost 35 games per team have only 22 pitchers with over 30 innings.

I know metal bats are an advantage for the hitters but pitchers should not be out of gas. They should be at full strength, building for playoffs.

Stump, you raise a good point. Something else is happening here. Pitchers aren"t accumulating innings because they are getting hit, or walking batters. They're pitching out of the stretch. But really, this has been going on all year. Some ridiculous scores for Baseball

[Hobbesy]

Four remain in TCCC and Curry is not one of them.

Wheaton stays strong against LEC

And an upset in the NAC.

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[Hobbesy]

Wild day in New England


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[wordsmith]

WNEC punches their ticket to the Regionals with an 8-5 win over Salve.

Congrats to Coach LaBranche & the Boys. Three straight TCCC Championships.

Word

[Stump]

St. Joe's punches their ticket with a 5-4 victory over Suffolk. Down 4-0 battle back to tie and then pull off the win in the bottom of the 9th.