BB: Midwest Region

BaseballFan · April 30, 2009, 08:59:04 AM

Dont think UST is above CSS since they lost to St. Marys yesterday but dont think that game will be taken into this weeks poll. I think whoever wins their matchup on sunday will be #1

biggio34 · April 30, 2009, 10:08:01 AM

Quote from: BaseballFan on April 30, 2009, 08:59:04 AM
Dont think UST is above CSS since they lost to St. Marys yesterday but dont think that game will be taken into this weeks poll. I think whoever wins their matchup on sunday will be #1

Yesterdays games won't reflect this ranking. Even if CSS wins on Sunday, I still doubt that CSS overtakes the Tommies in the regional rankings. The regional commitee has shown that the ONLY thing that seems to matter is strength of schedule. The UMAC does them no favors in that. Having St. Olaf cancel the DH with CSS, and not finishing a half inning against LaCrosse (dome) is a killer for them. I like the fact that CSS at least tries to schedule upper level teams (UST & STO yearly, GUSTIES in the past) but it seems like they lose some of those games on a yearly basis due to weather and MIAC rescheduling policies. Can't wait for Sunday, would love to see Schuld throw again.

BigPoppa · April 30, 2009, 10:13:30 AM

Quote from: BaseballFan on April 30, 2009, 08:59:04 AM
Dont think UST is above CSS since they lost to St. Marys yesterday but dont think that game will be taken into this weeks poll. I think whoever wins their matchup on sunday will be #1

I see CSS as #1 this week and St. Thomas as #2.

ShineTime · April 30, 2009, 10:21:53 AM

I have Point at #1 they are winning the WIAC. Let's not forget how tough the WIAC is top to bottom.

cubs · April 30, 2009, 10:24:27 AM

Quote from: ShineTime on April 30, 2009, 10:21:53 AM
I have Point at #1 they are winning the WIAC. Let's not forget how tough the WIAC is top to bottom.

I am a WIAC guy, but there is absolutely NO WAY Point is #1 in this week's Regional Rankings. Too many Regional losses at this point to even be considered.

biggio34 · April 30, 2009, 10:28:31 AM

1) UST
2) CSS
3) OSHKOSH
4) WHITEWATER
5) OLAF
6) POINT

Remember the last couple day aren't reflected! Plus the UMAC as far as I know has no representation on that commitee which will not help their cause.

SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE, SCHEDULE!!!!!
The regional commitee has proven that the formulas will not be used until selection time based on the past couple years.

OshDude · April 30, 2009, 10:34:52 AM

Is a schedule worth six (now seven) losses? I bought the four-loss difference last week, but I find it hard to believe that a split against UST and six fewer losses isn't good enough this week. CSS's OWP isn't that bad. But UST's is that good. We'll see, I guess. But I'd be shocked if CSS isn't #1.

biggio34 · April 30, 2009, 10:48:03 AM

Oshdude, get ready to ride the lightning then! CSS gets no love from the commitee, because if any other WIAC or MIAC were playing more consistent they would outrank them as well. We're all assuming that the commitee chooses this by the numbers. IMO they don't. If CSS' OWP isn't that bad than how is BLC such an outcast? CSS has tradition on their side and the UMAC on their backs. Even if CSS wins out, they will NEVER be a #1 seed come regional time. The WIAC & MIAC guys on that commitee will not let it happen.

OshDude · April 30, 2009, 11:05:25 AM

Quote from: biggio34 on April 30, 2009, 10:48:03 AM
Oshdude, get ready to ride the lightning then! CSS gets no love from the commitee, because if any other WIAC or MIAC were playing more consistent they would outrank them as well. We're all assuming that the commitee chooses this by the numbers. IMO they don't. If CSS' OWP isn't that bad than how is BLC such an outcast? CSS has tradition on their side and the UMAC on their backs. Even if CSS wins out, they will NEVER be a #1 seed come regional time. The WIAC & MIAC guys on that commitee will not let it happen.

Because BLC's OWP is that bad. My calculator spit out the following OWP's.
UST .637 (in their own ballpark)
CSS .529 (in the same ballpark as St. Olaf and Rockford)
BLC .448 (in the same ballpark as CUW, Beloit, Wash U)

Dagger · April 30, 2009, 11:52:54 AM

I don't think that CSS gets overlooked by the committee. They are a great ball club and have been for years, but keep in mind they play in an awful conference! With that said I feel like they should be the #1 seed this week with ust right behind them and point right behind them. as for the rest, I guess I will have to wait and see what unfolds in the next couple of days.

Is there anyone in the midwest conference this year that poses a slight threat come regional time? I havn't followed them at all so fill me in please.

BigPoppa · April 30, 2009, 12:33:49 PM

Quote from: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 11:52:54 AM

Is there anyone in the midwest conference this year that poses a slight threat come regional time? I havn't followed them at all so fill me in please.

No...

Dagger · April 30, 2009, 12:38:29 PM

that's what I figured but you never know when somebody will pull a Lakeland on us!

OshDude · April 30, 2009, 12:38:49 PM

Quote from: BigPoppa on April 30, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 11:52:54 AM

Is there anyone in the midwest conference this year that poses a slight threat come regional time? I havn't followed them at all so fill me in please.

No...

If one comes to Oshkosh, I guarantee it will be more of a threat than Knox was last year. There are a few SPs in the MWC I wouldn't want to face. Everyone wanted to face Knox's SPs.

BigPoppa · April 30, 2009, 12:45:22 PM

Quote from: OshDude on April 30, 2009, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: BigPoppa on April 30, 2009, 12:33:49 PM
Quote from: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 11:52:54 AM

Is there anyone in the midwest conference this year that poses a slight threat come regional time? I havn't followed them at all so fill me in please.

No...
If one comes to Oshkosh, I guarantee it will be more of a threat than Knox was last year. There are a few SPs in the MWC I wouldn't want to face. Everyone wanted to face Knox's SPs.

The reason I said NO is that the MWC is no longer in the Midwest Region... they are a Central Region conference this year. The NathCON has been shifted to the Midwest Region.

cubs · April 30, 2009, 01:12:06 PM

Quote from: Dagger on April 30, 2009, 11:52:54 AM
I don't think that CSS gets overlooked by the committee. They are a great ball club and have been for years, but keep in mind they play in an awful conference! With that said I feel like they should be the #1 seed this week with ust right behind them and point right behind them. as for the rest, I guess I will have to wait and see what unfolds in the next couple of days.

At this time next week I think Point has a GREAT shot at being the #3 team in the Region, but not this week. They went 4-2 in the period following the last rankings, which I'm not sure is good enough to move up two spots. Now if they go and sweep Platteville this weekend, or even take three out of four, their 6-0 or 5-1 week will likely get them to the #3 spot (at worst) in the final set of released rankings.