BB: Midwest Region

[BaseballFan]

7 teams if you throw in st olaf who got a couple votes

Well there about 20 teams between Olaf and CSS so that would be 7 in 45. 6 in 27 sounds better.

[OshDude]

Does anyone definitively know the provisional/reclassifying status of the following UMAC teams? Do these team qualify as in-region in terms of in-region record and OWP? Handbook says third-and fourth-year members are counted toward the primary criteria. I'm not well versed in UMAC history.

Crown
Bethany Lutheran
Minnesota-Morris
Northwestern
Presentation

Thanks in advance.

[BaseballFan]

Does anyone definitively know the provisional/reclassifying status of the following UMAC teams? Do these team qualify as in-region in terms of in-region record and OWP? Handbook says third-and fourth-year members are counted toward the primary criteria. I'm not well versed in UMAC history.

Crown
Bethany Lutheran
Minnesota-Morris
Northwestern
Presentation

Thanks in advance.

I was under the impression that the entire UMAC is good to go to count as in region games. And I believe the UMAC will get an automatic bid in 2010 so that would make everyone at least a third year provisional, but think some are more than that. sorry cant help more and give u a definite answer!

[bigbadbaseballman]

From what Ive seen a UMAC team does not get an auto bid until 2010. 
Im guessing on this but Presentation, Bethany, and northwestern are considered in region.

[OshDude]

Thanks guys. Morris is the biggest question for me. If Morris counts, the whole conference should. Then again, my UMAC history knowledge is sketchy at best.

[Bronko7]

 

Does anyone definitively know the provisional/reclassifying status of the following UMAC teams? Do these team qualify as in-region in terms of in-region record and OWP? Handbook says third-and fourth-year members are counted toward the primary criteria. I'm not well versed in UMAC history.

Crown
Bethany Lutheran
Minnesota-Morris
Northwestern
Presentation

Thanks in advance.

I did a little research on this and all teams in the UMAC are in region games, there are three teams that have already served their probationary period (CSS, Martin Luther,Northland Coll.) and are eligible for the tourney. But the entire conference is now a DIII conference and are counted as in region games, some just have to wait for the probation period to end. I believe that the UMAC conference will be an AQ conference in 2010 after waiting the two year period from the time that all affiliated members become DIII. As of last season Martin Luther and Northland were the in region wins CSS could count.

[Ralph Turner]

Does anyone definitively know the provisional/reclassifying status of the following UMAC teams? Do these team qualify as in-region in terms of in-region record and OWP? Handbook says third-and fourth-year members are counted toward the primary criteria. I'm not well versed in UMAC history.

Crown
Bethany Lutheran
Minnesota-Morris  Reclassifying from D-II; Full Member in Fall, 2008
Northwestern
Presentation         Full member in Fall 2009

Thanks in advance.

I did a little research on this and all teams in the UMAC are in region games, there are three teams that have already served their probationary period (CSS, Martin Luther,Northland Coll.) and are eligible for the tourney. But the entire conference is now a DIII conference and are counted as in region games, some just have to wait for the probation period to end. I believe that the UMAC conference will be an AQ conference in 2010 after waiting the two year period from the time that all affiliated members become DIII. As of last season Martin Luther and Northland were the in region wins CSS could count.

Good job on the research and the UMAC.  +1

MN-Morris should complete reclassification from D-II  this summer.

The UMAC should get its baseball AQ in 2011.  Games versus provisional members in their 3rd and 4th years count as in-region games.

[OshDude]

Thanks again, fellas. The entire UMAC counting toward CSS's in-region record makes things much easier to calculate.

All my CSS calculations to date assumed all UMAC games are now in-region, but I needed the extra knowledge to make that official. The NCAA doesn't crunch numbers based on my strong hunches. At least I don't think it does  .

So nothing has been skewed in my earlier posted CSS in-region records and/or OWP.

[OshDude]

Team, in-region record through 4/30, OWP and records vs. regionally ranked teams – nonregion ranked teams
1. Oshkosh, 25-6, .591 (Whitewater 2-2, Stevens Point 3-1, St. Thomas 1-1)
2. St. Thomas, 15-5, .645 (Oshkosh 1-1, Stevens Point 1-1, Trinity-Conn. 0-1, Amherst 1-0)
3. Whitewater, 27-5, .560 (Oshkosh 2-2, Point?)
4. Stevens Point, 21-7, .582 (St. Thomas 1-1, Oshkosh 1-3, Ripon 1-1, Whitewater?, Wooster 0-2)
5. Ripon, 16-2, .496 (Stevens Point 1-1, RPI 0-1)

In no particular order:
St. Norbert, 18-8, .538 (Augustana 0-1, Carthage 0-2, Stevens Point 0-2, Ripon?, Mt. St. Joe 1-0)
St. Olaf, 17-6, .570 (Whitewater 1-1, St. Thomas 0-2)
St. Scholastica, 18-3, .510 (Oshkosh 1-1, St. Thomas 1-1, Elizabethtown 1-0, Alvernia 1-1)

Gustavus played itself off the list with four losses, including two to Hamline. Hamline falls off with a loss to St. John's and nothing on the schedule will get Hamline's OWP (currently .460) anywhere near .500. St. Norbert remains because it still has the pivotal Ripon four-game series on the schedule.

Some one-time trivia (because it takes too long to calculate): the 30 MW Region teams have a combined 392-349-1 (.529) in-region record. Even when incorporating the other five provisional UMAC teams, which are a combined 31-60 in-region, the MW in-region winning percentage is .508.

The MW is a combined 26-10 vs. the NATHcon, including 2-1 vs. Rockford (Platteville 1-0, Beloit 1-1).
The MW is a combined 4-12 vs. the CCIW (three of the wins are over lowly Elmhurst, although only three over-.500 in-region MW teams have played CCIW teams).
The MW is a combined 21-25 vs. the IIAC.
The MW is a combined 12-5 vs. the SLIAC.

[Bronko7]

The new rankings are out. Nice to see St. Scholastica make it in. Ripon dropped out.

http://ncaa.com/rankings/default.aspx?id=212508

[BaseballFan]

The new rankings are out. Nice to see St. Scholastica make it in. Ripon dropped out.

http://ncaa.com/rankings/default.aspx?id=212508

A little surprised that Ripon dropped out and thats before last nights split but I would probably agree with the rankings even though CSS should be above Point in my opinion. But think they got it right now with those 5 teams ranked

[Bronko7]

The new rankings are out. Nice to see St. Scholastica make it in. Ripon dropped out.

http://ncaa.com/rankings/default.aspx?id=212508

A little surprised that Ripon dropped out and thats before last nights split but I would probably agree with the rankings even though CSS should be above Point in my opinion. But think they got it right now with those 5 teams ranked

Strength of schedule for Point is one of the best in the country, that is why. Don't let the record fool you that is a very good team that has played some very good teams.

[OshDude]

Big split today between Ripon and St. Norbert. Not a bad loss either way, but it may take Ripon out of the running for a Pool C. I thought Ripon needed a four-game sweep this weekend to move back into the regional rankings.

[BaseballFan]

Big split today between Ripon and St. Norbert. Not a bad loss either way, but it may take Ripon out of the running for a Pool C. I thought Ripon needed a four-game sweep this weekend to move back into the regional rankings.

Yea I would think that would keep Ripon out of the regional rankings and definitely need the conference tourney to get into the regional. St Olaf might be ahead of Ripon now

[cubs]

Big split today between Ripon and St. Norbert. Not a bad loss either way, but it may take Ripon out of the running for a Pool C.

Well you can remove them FOR SURE now, as they are swept by St. Norbert today, 4-2 and 8-2.  It's either win the MWC Tournament, or go home for the Red Hawks.