MBB: Landmark Conference

[NEPAFAN]

Scranton has one loss at the John J. Long Center. they lost to Richard Stockton (who I believe is ranked in the top 10).


As far as getting on Danzig, I think when you take over for the legend that is Mr. Bob Bessior you are bound to be under the microscope. Bessior built Scranton basketball from the ground up and was involved with the program for over 40 years.


I think Danzig has done a pretty good job, and that you could make a case for him for COY (won't go down that road)  but all in all I think  Scranton followers would like to see a couple NCAA wins to add to his resume!

[BCannon]

Suprise of the awards this year.  Canon gets 1st team all d3 hoops poster after last years snub.

If your gonna try and bust my balls at least spell my name right please

Congrats to both teams looks like it was a great game. Hopefully the Landmark gets 2 teams in this year and Maryville doesn't make it in based on their reputation.

[susiddad]

Maryville's competition in their wins averaged a 16 loses per game. 
They had 4 wins over teams that had winning records 2 vs. the same team at 13-11, a 17-12 team and one impressive win vs. a 20-8 team. 

Having never seen them play, I'm going to assume they play cupcake city aonce conf. play starts and their 4-5 record going into it only magnifies that when they play real teams they are a .500 team.  that being said i am sure they will get in and we won't because sometimes life is unfair

[susiddad]

It will be challenging for Catholic to make it to the title game next year since they are bringing back such a young team.

[Reserved Seat]

Maryville's competition in their wins averaged a 16 loses per game. 
They had 4 wins over teams that had winning records 2 vs. the same team at 13-11, a 17-12 team and one impressive win vs. a 20-8 team. 

Having never seen them play, I'm going to assume they play cupcake city aonce conf. play starts and their 4-5 record going into it only magnifies that when they play real teams they are a .500 team.  that being said i am sure they will get in and we won't because sometimes life is unfair

Life is definitely not fair.  Once you fall into Pool C, it's a crap shoot if you get picked.  I've been following small college basketball(MAC/Centennial) since 1966 and following D3 from it's roots and how the teams are picked I still have no clue.  I've seen good teams ignored and questionable ones selected.  With numerous regular season champions losing their tournament automatic qualifying spot, Pool C is crowded.  F&M dropped into Pool C this afternoon with a lose to Gettysburg.  Gettysburg with an 18-8 record and a number 3 seed in the Centennial Conference now gets an automatic qualifying spot.  F&M 22-5 now has to wait as does Susquehanna for a potential at large bid.  Good luck with your wait.

[BCannon]

Maryville's competition in their wins averaged a 16 loses per game. 
They had 4 wins over teams that had winning records 2 vs. the same team at 13-11, a 17-12 team and one impressive win vs. a 20-8 team. 

Having never seen them play, I'm going to assume they play cupcake city aonce conf. play starts and their 4-5 record going into it only magnifies that when they play real teams they are a .500 team.  that being said i am sure they will get in and we won't because sometimes life is unfair

Life is definitely not fair.  Once you fall into Pool C, it's a crap shoot if you get picked.  I've been following small college basketball(MAC/Centennial) since 1966 and following D3 from it's roots and how the teams are picked I still have no clue.  I've seen good teams ignored and questionable ones selected.  With numerous regular season champions losing their tournament automatic qualifying spot, Pool C is crowded.  F&M dropped into Pool C this afternoon with a lose to Gettysburg.  Gettysburg with an 18-8 record and a number 3 seed in the Centennial Conference now gets an automatic qualifying spot.  F&M 22-5 now has to wait as does Susquehanna for a potential at large bid.  Good luck with your wait.

Well hopefully SU and Scranton will get 2 Pool B's like the Landmark did last year instead of having to get a Pool C. The way things went in the ODAC Tourney is going to make things very tough for a few teams that would have probably gotten a Pool C otherwise.

[Matt Letourneau]

It will be challenging for Catholic to make it to the title game next year since they are bringing back such a young team.

You do realize they when from 10-15 to 17-9 this year right?  Do you really want to start getting into track records here? 

If you are actually interested in the circumstances that led to them being young for a few years (turns out that being without a coach entirely during the end of the recruitment period until after deposits/commitments are due is not great for recruiting, neither is an unprecedented economic slowdown at a $30k a year school), we can continue talking--otherwise, you are just wasting bandwith. 

Its great that Susquehanna took Scranton to OT in the title game.  So did Catholic a game earlier.  We'll know tomorrow what happens, but if Pat's crew is right, there's a decent chance that Susquehanna is going to be watching the tournament at home just like Catholic.  So I'd get off your high horse.

[susiddad]

Hey, your right about us not making it.  Wehad a chnace played well, but all in all we had a good season.  That is back to back shared regular season champs.  Catholic has 0.  Since our paths have crossed we are better than you both years.  Excuses are just that, excuses.   

That being said, Catholic is the clear favorite to win the league next year.  You have a lot to look forward to, however I think we all see the Cards as a little pompus from top to bottom so when things are going that well we are all going to jump on you.  Take it as a compliment for now and use it as bulletin board material.  Maybe the 5th asst. can print it up and put in the locker room.

[Matt Letourneau]

Hey, your right about us not making it.  Wehad a chnace played well, but all in all we had a good season.  That is back to back shared regular season champs.  Catholic has 0.  Since our paths have crossed we are better than you both years.  Excuses are just that, excuses.   

That being said, Catholic is the clear favorite to win the league next year.  You have a lot to look forward to, however I think we all see the Cards as a little pompus from top to bottom so when things are going that well we are all going to jump on you.  Take it as a compliment for now and use it as bulletin board material.  Maybe the 5th asst. can print it up and put in the locker room.

Who is "we all?"  You're speaking for the whole board now?

I'm pretty much the only Catholic guy that ever posts in here...so I'm not sure exactly who you see as pompous unless its me.  I think I've been pretty realistic about them all year, if you don't agree, fine.  Sure, I pushed Banzhaf, but he had a great year. 

The team as a whole was young.  That's a fact.  Even if they hadn't lose guys from last year, they still would have been young.  But had they been able to keep them, they would have had a lot more depth and another scoring option or two, and that probably would have helped.  Its not an excuse, its fact.  It is not an uncommon occurence in d3 basketball to have something like that happen.  They just got unlucky--as I said, if you knew the stories involved here you would understand.  Its not as if a bunch of recruits just left en masse because they didn't like the coach or the school. 

As NEPAfan was talking about when it comes to Scranton, when you lose a coach that was revered, its not so easy.  In this case the administration really put the entire program behind the curve by not moving on a new hire for several months--so you ended up with no incoming class.  It didn't hurt right away, but you felt it 4 years later with no seniors.   It kind of spirals from there.  But things are clearly heading in the right direction, the quality of the players coming into the program now are right back to where things were.  If your yardstick is short term, then sure, other teams have done better.  I really do hope Susquehanna gets in tomorrow, but if you don't, then...it hasn't really gotten you anywhere, has it?  Who really cares what the final standings are if you don't make the tournament which is kind of the whole point? 

[susiddad]

well said my good man.  only thing i disagree with are your "facts".  i view them as "excuses". maybe we are both right.  i actually alos think it is an accomplishment of note to win back to back regular season championships. 

[NEPAFAN]

well said my good man.  only thing i disagree with are your "facts".  i view them as "excuses". maybe we are both right.  i actually alos think it is an accomplishment of note to win back to back regular season championships. 

Back to back regular season championships? That is debatable if you include tie breakers..

[tpm4286]

Seems like the board is picking on Matt a little bit. Remember this bulletin board material and fact, Matt and his Catholic boys do have the most dominant player returning and hands down the best player in the league. As I mentioned before Matt may have alot to brag and run his mouth about in the future as I see Banzhaf being 2-time POY over the next 2 seasons. I mean who else is going to compete with them besides Merchant Marine with some of there young talent.

Matt I may dislike Catholic, but I must agree they do have a solid young base that will win at least one championship over the next 2 years even though I am sort of contradicting myself with my whole "shut banzhaf down you win" equation. I mean with all the darn coaches I'm sure they will give the players enough attention and work to develop haha.

[TheGrove]

I know I said this already, but good luck to Scranton in the NCAA tournament. Represent the Landmark well!!

The selection show knifed Susquehanna in the heart early, announcing Maryville right off the bat.  However, I'm proud of those guys, it's been a heck of a season.

[Matt Letourneau]

No love for Susquehanna...but even more surprising to me, no love for St. Mary's over in the CAC either!

Pretty decent matchup for Scranton, at least in the first round.  F&M isn't too bad a ride, either. 

[NEPAFAN]

Anyone have any info on Brandeis or the UAA?


Seems like a decent draw for Scranton....but I thought that last year too.