MBB: Landmark Conference

[cold_case]

Let's see...F&M is essentially an underclass laden team with zero playoff experience & Scranton is a senior dominated team with 3 years experince going to the NCAA tournament. Scranton gets blown out by Brandeis...F&M somehow finds a way to get it done against Brandeis. Oh, that's right...a bad draw yet again for the Royals. F&M 1-0 thus far...Scranton 0-3 & counting. Go figure.

'toga, in regards to that 0-3 record: That's what Danzig is without Bessoir's players.
Also, nothing has changed over the years since F&M continues to host NCAA tourney games that include Scranton. Either that or it goes to a nuteral site. Although this year Scranton didn't deserve to host.
I think there are some old Scranton fans that know what I mean.

[susiddad]

all in all, Scranton had a great season.  team won two awesome playoff games and a reg. seasno title and playoff one.  Heck of a job.  Tough to compete at the highest of high levels nationally without a top of notch player or two (for the most part)...Scranton just has a lot of good players and shooters.

[D.B. Cooper]

CC I guess getting to host the Dips in the sectionals in 1988 dosen't seem like enough. Although F&M hosted Scranton several times (?'77, '81, '84. '86, '91) but in all those hosting choices except for possibly '88 Dips were either higher nationally ranked or it was an essentially even between both teams. The loudest complaints I remember hearing were at the neutral Widener site ('87) when Royals had to play host Widener in 1st round & Dips got the weaker opponent as if they were the higher seed. But anyone coming out of there needed to beat the host team anyway. Likely the Royals should have hosted at least one of those NCAA games, but I am not sure which one(s).

It also reminds me how the Wilkes faithful claim they should have 100% surely hosted the E8 game in '96 even though both teams were 29-1 but Dips were ranked 2nd nationally to the Colonels 8th, they could at least admit it was a challenging decision.

Finally, I'm not sure what has changed but since 1996 the NCAA committee has done F&M no favors (like entire 2000 FF run on the road & skipped regularly in at-large bids). This year was there 1st kindness shown in a Pool C bid plus a close hosting call.

[Pat Coleman]

F&M also hosted a second-round game and a sectional in 2004.

[D.B. Cooper]

Pat: We were talking only about the disparity in the number of times F&M hosted over specifically Scranton. Scranton did not play at Mayser in 2004.

[Pat Coleman]

Finally, I'm not sure what has changed but since 1996 the NCAA committee has done F&M no favors (like entire 2000 FF run on the road & skipped regularly in at-large bids). This year was there 1st kindness shown in a Pool C bid plus a close hosting call.

I'm suggesting that a sectional hosting nod in 2004 is both since 1996 and good for F&M.

[D.B. Cooper]

Pat. I see that point that the pick of F&M as the host, in a close call over the only alternative that was close to all the schools New Jersey City, was favorable. Amherst may have been a slightly higher seed but was not centrally located so not good as for keeping costs down. I think that decision was made by NCAA for purely cost saving & gym size reasons to come to Lancaster, but it could be reasonably considered as a favor to the Dips.

[NEPAFAN]

That is bad luck. regarding Paul Hawk...sorry to hear that.


Desales in sweet sixteen too I see , pressure has to be mounting for Danzig..

  Someone said Paul was a medical scratch and not able to practice all week. Eli did have 5 blocks and I should have mentioned him individually but they came so fast and furiously that I lost track of who was doing what.

[susiddad]

"Desales in sweet sixteen too I see , pressure has to be mounting for Danzig.."


These are the jabs I was referring to.  Pressure?  I think it is comical.  Scranton is one 12 d3 schools in the country (guess?) to make it to the last tournaments.  NEPAFAN...You deserve to lose karma points at the mere suggestion.

[NEPAFAN]

"Desales in sweet sixteen too I see , pressure has to be mounting for Danzig.."


These are the jabs I was referring to.  Pressure?  I think it is comical.  Scranton is one 12 d3 schools in the country (guess?) to make it to the last tournaments.  NEPAFAN...You deserve to lose karma points at the mere suggestion.

What jab? You don't think that Coach Danzig, his assistants, and the players are not frustrated by the one and done appearances in the NCAA tourney?

[susiddad]

To be honest.  I don't.  I think they had a very successful season getting the most out of their palyers.

[cold_case]

"Desales in sweet sixteen too I see , pressure has to be mounting for Danzig.."
These are the jabs I was referring to.  Pressure?  I think it is comical.  Scranton is one 12 d3 schools in the country (guess?) to make it to the last tournaments.  NEPAFAN...You deserve to lose karma points at the mere suggestion.

Why should NEPA lose karma? He's giving his opinion. This is Scranton, not Susquehanna. You know? SU is happy with making the conference tournament now and then and is unfamiliar with the NCAA tourney scene while NEPA is used to following a team that was a serious national title contender every year under Bob Bessoir.
You know?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

FYI - you never know why someone loses karma... someone who is just catching up with things posted several weeks ago could have disagreed with something he wrote about. Heck, it could be something written on a different page. It is rather hard to draw a straight line between a recent post and a plus or minus of one's karma.

[NEPAFAN]

  NEPAFAN...You deserve to lose karma points at the mere suggestion.

Lobbying for me to take a hit...

[cold_case]

FYI - you never know why someone loses karma... someone who is just catching up with things posted several weeks ago could have disagreed with something he wrote about. Heck, it could be something written on a different page. It is rather hard to draw a straight line between a recent post and a plus or minus of one's karma.

You mean if someone brings up a post about a year ago when another poster wrote Goucher being one of the teams that's the future of the league?