MBB: Landmark Conference

[Matt Letourneau]

Very nice to see two 3-0 Landmark teams in the Top #15. 

[cold_case]

I didn't know winning the Hoopsville tourney carries that much clout. I mean, a team goes from unranked to a top 15? 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

[cold_case]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

So if, say, Scranton or someone knocks off two D-I's, they jump to first?

[NEPAFAN]

Who is this magic squad that Catholic has hidden on their bench?


The 7 footer Jack Taylor, not to be confused with Grinnel's Jack Taylor?

[cold_case]

Who is this magic squad that Catholic has hidden on their bench?


The 7 footer Jack Taylor, not to be confused with Grinnel's Jack Taylor?

Just shaking my head with a grin at the "rankings."
CUA beats two supposed top teams and earns a ranking. OK, fair enough. Then last night they have to hold off 1-4 Haverford. Normal rankings would have them falling. Normal rankings....

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

So if, say, Scranton or someone knocks off two D-I's, they jump to first?

Uh... probably... Scranton is in the Top 25... why are you so worried... is it BAD to have two Landmark teams in the Top 25? I had Scranton in my Top 25 in the preseason and I had Catholic in my Top 40, just had some questions that kept me from including them (you can ask others, I have had CUA on my radar all off-season). CUA goes and beats Transylvania and St. Mary's rather handily... including monster runs like 43-13 on SMC... and had everyone at the classic talking about how they were the best there and the fact there were probably four Top 25 teams at the classic. So why should CUA NOT get any love and move high in the Top 25?

By the way, last night's game had nothing to do with the rankings. We did our polls yesterday before a 3 PM deadline (though some pollsters were a bit late). The data was through Sunday's games. And if you are going to play the game with who they beat last... Virginia Wesleyan held off 0-3 Methodist to win by eight... should they fall from #2? CUA had over a week off between games... I can expect a little lull... just like I expect all teams to have games where they struggle during the season.

You are all acting like Scranton should be the only team ranked and that the rest of the conference should just lay at the Royals feet... come on! You should be thrilled that CUA is getting attention... it actually makes the conference look better than it has in the last five years! Embrace it guys!

And I don't know who Coach Howes was alluding to that is "missing"... he threw it at me during my Coach's Corner with him and I didn't have the time or the reaction time to press him on it.

[NEPAFAN]

Cold Case,


What is this UCLA, Kentucky and Division 1 where we have instant rankings?

You know better than that!


Dave- Issue, Scranton beating Middlebury at Middlebury makes the conference look the best it has in the past 5 years. The conference should be laying at the Royals feet since they have DOMINATED the league since inception.

[Pat Coleman]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

So if, say, Scranton or someone knocks off two D-I's, they jump to first?

Uh... probably... Scranton is in the Top 25... why are you so worried... is it BAD to have two Landmark teams in the Top 25? I had Scranton in my Top 25 in the preseason and I had Catholic in my Top 40, just had some questions that kept me from including them (you can ask others, I have had CUA on my radar all off-season). CUA goes and beats Transylvania and St. Mary's rather handily... including monster runs like 43-13 on SMC... and had everyone at the classic talking about how they were the best there and the fact there were probably four Top 25 teams at the classic. So why should CUA NOT get any love and move high in the Top 25?

By the way, last night's game had nothing to do with the rankings. We did our polls yesterday before a 3 PM deadline (though some pollsters were a bit late). The data was through Sunday's games. And if you are going to play the game with who they beat last... Virginia Wesleyan held off 0-3 Methodist to win by eight... should they fall from #2? CUA had over a week off between games... I can expect a little lull... just like I expect all teams to have games where they struggle during the season.

You are all acting like Scranton should be the only team ranked and that the rest of the conference should just lay at the Royals feet... come on! You should be thrilled that CUA is getting attention... it actually makes the conference look better than it has in the last five years! Embrace it guys!

And I don't know who Coach Howes was alluding to that is "missing"... he threw it at me during my Coach's Corner with him and I didn't have the time or the reaction time to press him on it.

Dave -- it isn't worth answering this guy if he can't read a "through games of" line on a poll or understand the concept of a classic vs. a tournament bracket. He just wants to bitch.

Seriously. Stop feeding the troll.

[Matt Letourneau]

I did watch the interview that Dave did with Steve Howes (which was a very nice addition to the tournament for all the teams) and he made the point that Scranton's run last year was very good for the conference--it helped put them on the map.

Time will tell how good the conference is this year and how good Catholic and Scranton are, but regardless, it is a good thing for everyone to have to teams currently ranked in the Top #15.

I didn't see any of the Haverford game, but clearly Haverford got hot from 3--they shot 58% (17 attempts) and were at home.  Catholic just began a stretch where they are playing 5 out of 6 on the road.

Sometimes, about the only place where you wouldn't know that Scranton has been outstanding over the last few years has been this Board. 

[Charles]

I did watch the interview that Dave did with Steve Howes (which was a very nice addition to the tournament for all the teams) and he made the point that Scranton's run last year was very good for the conference--it helped put them on the map.

Time will tell how good the conference is this year and how good Catholic and Scranton are, but regardless, it is a good thing for everyone to have to teams currently ranked in the Top #15.

I didn't see any of the Haverford game, but clearly Haverford got hot from 3--they shot 58% (17 attempts) and were at home.  Catholic just began a stretch where they are playing 5 out of 6 on the road.

Sometimes, about the only place where you wouldn't know that Scranton has been outstanding over the last few years has been this Board.

At one point I think Haverford was 10 of 15 from behind the arc. They were shooting great all night. They have a good team that will win alot of games this year.

[ronk]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

So if, say, Scranton or someone knocks off two D-I's, they jump to first?

Uh... probably... Scranton is in the Top 25... why are you so worried... is it BAD to have two Landmark teams in the Top 25? I had Scranton in my Top 25 in the preseason and I had Catholic in my Top 40, just had some questions that kept me from including them (you can ask others, I have had CUA on my radar all off-season). CUA goes and beats Transylvania and St. Mary's rather handily... including monster runs like 43-13 on SMC... and had everyone at the classic talking about how they were the best there and the fact there were probably four Top 25 teams at the classic. So why should CUA NOT get any love and move high in the Top 25?

By the way, last night's game had nothing to do with the rankings. We did our polls yesterday before a 3 PM deadline (though some pollsters were a bit late). The data was through Sunday's games. And if you are going to play the game with who they beat last... Virginia Wesleyan held off 0-3 Methodist to win by eight... should they fall from #2? CUA had over a week off between games... I can expect a little lull... just like I expect all teams to have games where they struggle during the season.

You are all acting like Scranton should be the only team ranked and that the rest of the conference should just lay at the Royals feet... come on! You should be thrilled that CUA is getting attention... it actually makes the conference look better than it has in the last five years! Embrace it guys!

And I don't know who Coach Howes was alluding to that is "missing"... he threw it at me during my Coach's Corner with him and I didn't have the time or the reaction time to press him on it.

[ronk]

Well... there isn't any winners of a classic for starters... and when you beat two Top 25 teams... look really good doing it... and you apparently don't have your full compliment of players playing... I think that deserves plenty of Top 25 love.

So if, say, Scranton or someone knocks off two D-I's, they jump to first?

Uh... probably... Scranton is in the Top 25... why are you so worried... is it BAD to have two Landmark teams in the Top 25? I had Scranton in my Top 25 in the preseason and I had Catholic in my Top 40, just had some questions that kept me from including them (you can ask others, I have had CUA on my radar all off-season). CUA goes and beats Transylvania and St. Mary's rather handily... including monster runs like 43-13 on SMC... and had everyone at the classic talking about how they were the best there and the fact there were probably four Top 25 teams at the classic. So why should CUA NOT get any love and move high in the Top 25?

By the way, last night's game had nothing to do with the rankings. We did our polls yesterday before a 3 PM deadline (though some pollsters were a bit late). The data was through Sunday's games. And if you are going to play the game with who they beat last... Virginia Wesleyan held off 0-3 Methodist to win by eight... should they fall from #2? CUA had over a week off between games... I can expect a little lull... just like I expect all teams to have games where they struggle during the season.

You are all acting like Scranton should be the only team ranked and that the rest of the conference should just lay at the Royals feet... come on! You should be thrilled that CUA is getting attention... it actually makes the conference look better than it has in the last five years! Embrace it guys!

And I don't know who Coach Howes was alluding to that is "missing"... he threw it at me during my Coach's Corner with him and I didn't have the time or the reaction time to press him on it.

  Nobody has said that Scranton should be the only ranked Landmark team and cold case simply questioned them moving into the top 15, not that they should be unranked. I think it's good that we have 2 ranked teams at this point, pending tonite's top 25 clash with Cabrini and it would be better if Moravian, Susque, Juniata, and MMA could join them.
  Welcome back, Matt.

[cold_case]

  Nobody has said that Scranton should be the only ranked Landmark team and cold case simply questioned them moving into the top 15, not that they should be unranked. I think it's good that we have 2 ranked teams at this point, pending tonite's top 25 clash with Cabrini and it would be better if Moravian, Susque, Juniata, and MMA could join them.
  Welcome back, Matt.

ronk, you are 100% correct. Never said anything regarding Scranton being the lone ranked team. That post was my point and only you picked up on it because you have nothing to hide, nor have a guilty conscience.
Reagardless, Dave knows where I'm coming from. The insult hurling person is wrong for doing that. Taking it personal? Why?

[onetinsoldier]

according to wiki: "In Internet slang, a troll ( /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

I'm not really sure how CC's questioning of the rankings is any of those things.  Team jumps into top 15 because of one good week?  if thats possible, whats the point of even doing preseason rankings?  if CC missed the date published, fair enough.  But why call him names if its just a small mistake?

Now if you called him a troll simply to make reference to the greatest movie ever made, Troll 2, then thats a different story.  Regardless, should be a fun year with so many top Mid Atl teams!