MBB: Landmark Conference

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yeah - I can bye into that reasoning... I just hate the fact the rivalry games will never see a Saturday at this point.

[NEPAFAN]

Heard from cold case he apparently penned an article about this site and Mr.Coleman. He wants to know where Pat is working nowadays.

[sunny]

Heard from cold case he apparently penned an article about this site and Mr.Coleman. He wants to know where Pat is working nowadays.

An "article?" In what, "People with Too Much Time on their Hands Monthly?" Seriously, he got booted from a message board after repeatedly bating the moderator ... not exactly a crime against humanity.

[Matt Letourneau]

Ha...Dave's a Catholic homer!  I'm not sure he's ever heard that accusation before...I'm sure he likes to see Landmark teams succeed but Catholic and Goucher have been battling since I was in high school and for a whole there it was a heck of a rivalry.   Programs went in different directions for various reasons after that but there's a history well before Landmark.

[onetinsoldier]

Heard from cold case he apparently penned an article about this site and Mr.Coleman. He wants to know where Pat is working nowadays.

An "article?" In what, "People with Too Much Time on their Hands Monthly?" Seriously, he got booted from a message board after repeatedly bating the moderator ... not exactly a crime against humanity.

Hey NEPA, i read the article as well.  it was well done.  CC has been an employed journalist and editorialist for many years, and from his colleagues that i know he is well respected.  I dont know many of the details behind his fights with the moderators, but unless there were some edited/deleted comments all of it seemed to be basketball related (you know Sunny, kind of the point of a d3hoops board...

[sunny]

Heard from cold case he apparently penned an article about this site and Mr.Coleman. He wants to know where Pat is working nowadays.

An "article?" In what, "People with Too Much Time on their Hands Monthly?" Seriously, he got booted from a message board after repeatedly bating the moderator ... not exactly a crime against humanity.

Hey NEPA, i read the article as well.  it was well done.  CC has been an employed journalist and editorialist for many years, and from his colleagues that i know he is well respected.  I dont know many of the details behind his fights with the moderators, but unless there were some edited/deleted comments all of it seemed to be basketball related (you know Sunny, kind of the point of a d3hoops board...

I'm not taking a side as to whether or not someone deserved to be banned.  (Although, I'd say from the repeated shots back and forth and the warnings given, I'd say he was LOOKING for something to happen at the very least ... kind of like a  coach who's trying to get a technical.) I'm pointing out how ridiculously self-indulgent it is to make such a fuss about it.  He must have a FANTASTIC life to devote this much energy to a fight hardly worth fighting.

And, no, it's not a "free speech" issue when it's a privately-run message board on a privately-owned server.

I still don't see how any reputable publication would run a piece about this non-issue - unless he has his own column. In which case, he can go ahead and expose his self indulgence in wasting space that could no doubt be otherwise used to write about something that actually interests other people.

[onetinsoldier]

random question about the polls (since theyve been a subject here all season), according to the site The D3hoops.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly.

Do you publish the list of 25 anywhere, and also is it a list that changes annually? just curious, thanks

[NEPAFAN]

random question about the polls (since theyve been a subject here all season), according to the site The D3hoops.com Top 25 is voted on by a panel of 25 coaches, Sports Information Directors and media members from across the country, and is published weekly.

Do you publish the list of 25 anywhere, and also is it a list that changes annually? just curious, thanks

That would open the voters up for harassment, bad idea.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Not sure when Pat will get to this board, but I can try and answer that question:

- No, we don't publish the names of the voters. I suspect, in my opinion, that this is done to keep voters from being lobbied by teams who think they deserve to get into the Top 25. I also don't know of any Top 25 in the country that releases the names of their voters. There are some voters, like myself, who are public about the fact that they vote - I even release by ballot to the public - but even I don't know all of the voters who participate.
- There is some turnover on a yearly basis, but it really depends on a number of factors and the exact number is never the same.

[onetinsoldier]

Not sure when Pat will get to this board, but I can try and answer that question:

- No, we don't publish the names of the voters. I suspect, in my opinion, that this is done to keep voters from being lobbied by teams who think they deserve to get into the Top 25. I also don't know of any Top 25 in the country that releases the names of their voters. There are some voters, like myself, who are public about the fact that they vote - I even release by ballot to the public - but even I don't know all of the voters who participate.
- There is some turnover on a yearly basis, but it really depends on a number of factors and the exact number is never the same.

Fair enough, it was more curiosity than anything.  The main reason i asked is that i have my doubts about a certain poster on here who goes by Sunny.  His posts are very similar to someone who writes on the centennial board under a different name (a violation of your site's policy), and an attempt to contact him via email was returned in-error.  A friend mentioned that this Sunny might actually be affiliated with a Centennial school and have a womens vote, and im just trying to decipher if thats the case.

[Pat Coleman]

I am fully aware of who sunny is and I have never seen this person post under another name. If you have an issue with a post, use the report to moderator function.

The D-I football polls publish the names of their voters, Dave, and so do the AFCA polls and the WBCA polls. I never saw a list of NABC voters when they used to have their own Top 20. Indeed, the list is not public to avoid them being subject to a lot of email. (I voted on a football poll in the late 1990s, pre-D3football.com, and I definitely got a lot of mail, a couple phone calls and as much email as the era would permit.

Voters are divided up by region, three for each of the eight regions (more or less) and myself as the 25th voter. (Because the men's Atlantic and East are smaller than the rest of the regions, they combine for five votes in any given year, rather than six.)

I don't publicly identify voters, other than people associated with the site such as Dave and Gordon, Keith on D3football.com, etc. If voters identify themselves, I have no problem with that. Some former voters who have identified themselves publicly as such include Bob Quillman, former Illinois Wesleyan broadcaster, Illinois College coach Mike Worrell, as well as former D-III coaches such as Williams coach Dave Paulsen and Marymount coach Bill Finney (women's).

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

The D-I football polls publish the names of their voters, Dave, and so do the AFCA polls and the WBCA polls. I never saw a list of NABC voters when they used to have their own Top 20. Indeed, the list is not public to avoid them being subject to a lot of email. (I voted on a football poll in the late 1990s, pre-D3football.com, and I definitely got a lot of mail, a couple phone calls and as much email as the era would permit.

Thanks... I don't tend to go looking for the names, either, so thus I usually don't think most agencies release the names.

[ronk]

Current standings; look at that battle for the 4th playoff spot

CUA      7-1
Scr       6-3
Jun       5-3
Drew    3-5
Gou      3-5
Mor      3-5
Sus      3-5
MMA     3-6

My projected finish: revised after 2 weekend road wins

CUA      12-2
Scr       11-3
Jun         9-5
MMA       7-7
Mor        5-9
Sus        5-9
Drew      4-10
Gou        3-11

Your mileage may vary.

[NEPAFAN]

I'll be rooting for Jun on Saturday night in DC!!!

[NEPAFAN]

Don't know why I would be rooting for Juniata on Saturday in DC since they are playing their tomorrow. Scranton with a great come from behind victory against a good Ithaca team on the road!