MBB: Landmark Conference

[CCHoopster]

This could be a Mid Atlantic Region forum question but it goes along with your conversations: Messiah won 2 home games vs Etown and Albright last week and went from 22 to 17. Is that because of their total body of work, SOS, and other criteria or the fact they went 2-0 and teams in front of them (I think 14, 16, 18, 19) all lost.

This is going to sound like a non-answer but it's probably a mix of both. Think of a team rising five spots as gaining 125 points: five points times each of the 25 voters. Messiah gained 94 points, so that's a pretty good leap.

That's part one. Part two is to look at who they passed and figure out why. Messiah passed DePauw, Wittenberg and Albertus Magnus, who each lost to unranked teams. And Messiah passed Bowdoin, which lost to Amherst. Albertus had a win against a ranked team during the week, which complicates their resume, but the results lent themselves to both Albertus and SUNY-Purchase falling. Messiah also passed Augustana, which has been discussed already.

Appreciate that, Pat. Good luck to anyone traveling tonight.

[ronk]

  Royals win 3rd straight on the road over MMA, coming from 10 down with a couple of mins left in 1st half. They happened to be playing a poorer foul-shooting team than themselves. Still, after FT shooting 1-7 in the 2nd half, Mike Barr's effort bounced around before falling through; from that point the Royals finished 12-13 to close out the Mariners. The other negatives were being outrebounded on the offensive boards 18-4 and the shortening of the bench. Hopefully, with 4 of the final games at home, there will be suitable playing time for needed reserves.
  Catholic comes from way back(down 9 with 2:43 left) to win in 2OT. Road teams win 9 of most recent 12 and 2 of the 3 home wins(tonite) required 2OT. It's a far cry from the 1st years of the Landmark when the coaches would complain about being robbed on the road.

Current standings-closest Landmark tourney race in my memory-get out the tie-breakers
Catholic    7-2   13-7
Scranton   7-2   17-3
Moravian   5-5   10-10
Susque      4-5   12-8
Drew         4-5   10-10
MMA          4-6   9-11
Juniata      3-6   12-8
Goucher    3-6   8-12


My projected final standings:

Scranton        10-4
Catholic           9-5
Drew               7-7
Susque           7-7
MMA               7-7
Juniata           6-8
Moravian        6-8
Goucher         5-9

   

[ronk]

 Royals with very nice win over Susquehanna coming from 8 down @ the half and their feature player unable to play in the 2nd half. Catholic wins on the road despite the absence of Steve Limberiou for the 2nd consecutive game.

Current standings-closest Landmark tourney race in my memory-get out the tie-breakers
Catholic     8-2   14-7
Scranton   8-2   18-3
Moravian   5-6   10-11
MMA          5-6   10-11
Susque      4-6   12-9
Drew         4-6   10-11
Juniata      4-6   13-8
Goucher    3-7   8-13


My projected final standings:

Scranton        11-3
Catholic          11-3
Susque            6-8
MMA                 6-8
Juniata            6-8
Drew               6-8
Moravian         6-8
Goucher          4-10

[NEPAFAN]

What happened to Danzig was it on that offensive foul he drew?

[ronk]

What happened to Danzig was it on that offensive foul he drew?

My SPECULATION is that was it; Dean Corwin MAY have more to say Monday during the Lady Royals broadcast. 

[saratoga]

Word going around the Long Center yesterday....
possible concussion.
He wanted to play but was held back for obvious reasons.
A positive coming out of this was the Royal's were able to overcome a rather large Susquehanna lead without their leading scorer and go-to guy the entire second half.
A negative coming out of this is the hope the tests aren't positive.

[NEPAFAN]

Word going around the Long Center yesterday....
possible concussion.
He wanted to play but was held back for obvious reasons.
A positive coming out of this was the Royal's were able to overcome a rather large Susquehanna lead without their leading scorer and go-to guy the entire second half.
A negative coming out of this is the hope the tests aren't positive.

Thanks Saratoga:

Please let us know if you hear anything. Meanwhile Scranton up to 13 votes in the poll. 

[saratoga]

Tough night for the D-3 rankers....

Powerful Wabash at 8-13 over the # 14 ranked team.
Loras at 12-10 over # 23
Unranked DePauw over # 15 and...
Unranked Stevenson over # 25 Messiah.
I'm sure there is an explanation...just not so sure I'm up for hearing it.
As Bob Bessoir once said to a reporter asking him if his Royal's were a little too well thought of..."Purple Haze my friend, purple haze".

[ronk]

Scranton clinches semifinal tourney home game; Limberiou still out for Catholic; Scranton-Catholic on Saturday

Current standings-closest Landmark tourney race in my memory-get out the tie-breakers

Scranton   9-2   19-3
Catholic     8-3   14-8
Moravian   5-6   10-11
MMA          5-6   10-11
Susque      5-6   13-9
Juniata      5-6   14-8
Drew         4-7   10-12
Goucher    3-8   8-14


My projected final standings:

Scranton        11-3
Catholic          10-4
Susque            7-7
MMA                 6-8
Juniata            6-8
Drew               6-8
Moravian         6-8
Goucher          4-10

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Here's your answer:

In a tie of more than two teams, once one team has won a tie breaker, the tie breaker process among the remaining teams begins again starting with step 1.

1.   Head-to-head results between and among the tied teams in traditional season conference contests. (Includes ties of more than two teams)
2.   Tied teams traditional season won-loss records versus conference teams starting with #1, then #2, etc.
3.   Road winning percentage in conference games (only used if tied teams played a Home and Home conference schedule).
4.   Run/goal/points differential among tied teams, with maximum differentials as follows (Lacrosse 4, Basketball 10, Baseball/softball 5, field hockey 3, soccer 3).
5.   Head-to-head results between and among the tied teams in traditional season contests. (In tie of more than two teams, only used if all teams played each other in traditional season contests).
6.   Head-to-head results among common non-conference opponents at common site.
7.   Head-to-head results among common non-conference opponents at different site.
8.   Coin flip.

[ronk]

Wasn't aware of steps 3-7; thanks.

[NEPAFAN]

Tough night for the D-3 rankers....

Powerful Wabash at 8-13 over the # 14 ranked team.
Loras at 12-10 over # 23
Unranked DePauw over # 15 and...
Unranked Stevenson over # 25 Messiah.
I'm sure there is an explanation...just not so sure I'm up for hearing it.
As Bob Bessoir once said to a reporter asking him if his Royal's were a little too well thought of..."Purple Haze my friend, purple haze".

+1

What's wrong with Limberiou?

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

BREAKING: Danny Nee out after 'incident' at Merchant Marine. Munchnick acting head coach since mid-January: www.d3hoops.com/notables/2014/02/danny-nee-out-after-incident-at-merchant-marine #d3h

[ronk]

BREAKING: Danny Nee out after 'incident' at Merchant Marine. Munchnick acting head coach since mid-January: www.d3hoops.com/notables/2014/02/danny-nee-out-after-incident-at-merchant-marine #d3h

Our radio broadcaster had said that Nee was not on the bench during the Royals' recent game @ MMA, but he didn't know why.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

He's not been on the bench since January 17.