MBB: Landmark Conference

[NEPAFAN]

In order to stir up some off season chatter...

Rank the desirability of Landmark Head Coaching jobs based off of: geographic location, basketball history, facilities, majors offered, enrollment, tuition, academics, etc

Curious to see people's opinions.

Geographic Location:

1) Catholic
2) Drew
3) Goucher
4-8) The rest

The top three proximity to a large city; with Catholic being in a large city gives it the edge. No offense to the other schools but they are in the middle of no-where. Juanita is problem at the bottom of the list for really being in the middle of no-where.

Basketball History:

1) Scranton....a distant 2) Catholic for it's 1 National Championship..

I can't really can't speak to the other topics you mention; but you should probably add "online presence" or "streaming capabilities" to the list.

[ronk]

 At this point, Moravian has become the 1st and only school to have their bball schedules added to the Landmark schedule. Their men's team will be playing a game @ Lafayette. Hopefully, the other schools will soon add their games to the Landmark.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It isn't a matter of adding them as it is a matter of when the schools or the Sports Information Director decides to make them public. Furthermore, I know there are teams around the country still trying to schedule opponents as we had to scramble to fill the Hoopsville Classic this season (long story). So, some schedules might not be ready to post. Heck, I know some schools who don't post their schedules for all kinds of reasons until October.

[ronk]

It isn't a matter of adding them as it is a matter of when the schools or the Sports Information Director decides to make them public. Furthermore, I know there are teams around the country still trying to schedule opponents as we had to scramble to fill the Hoopsville Classic this season (long story). So, some schedules might not be ready to post. Heck, I know some schools who don't post their schedules for all kinds of reasons until October.

If Moravian knows their conference schedule, then all the schools know theirs also, so that can be posted. Plus, they can post the 95% of the nonconference schedule that is known at this point and won't change.

[kate]

I am super proud of Del Val's (not in the Landmark) , S.I.D. Matt Levy.  He had the Men's & Women's schedules up since Monday.  I've said it before on here, tons of plans get under way after studying those schedules.  We all need to see these schedules for something to look forward to.  The sooner the better!

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

It isn't a matter of adding them as it is a matter of when the schools or the Sports Information Director decides to make them public. Furthermore, I know there are teams around the country still trying to schedule opponents as we had to scramble to fill the Hoopsville Classic this season (long story). So, some schedules might not be ready to post. Heck, I know some schools who don't post their schedules for all kinds of reasons until October.

If Moravian knows their conference schedule, then all the schools know theirs also, so that can be posted. Plus, they can post the 95% of the nonconference schedule that is known at this point and won't change.

Some schools... and coaches... don't see it that way, I guess. Not sure what to tell you. While I agree on the conference stuff, the non-conference stuff is always in flux. As I said, I solved a Hoopsville Classic problem just a few days ago... which had a trickle down affect on someone else's non-conference schedule. There is always a trickle down to the smallest of changes. Heck, NYU doesn't even know where their games are going to be played! And I know other schedules that have come out that I feel are inaccurate due to some tournament schedule changes that are probably coming.

[kate]

To me it shows that the athletic department and the coaches place real relevance on their respective programs.  One can always make unforeseen changes after the schedule is presented to the public.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

To me it shows that the athletic department and the coaches place real relevance on their respective programs.  One can always make unforeseen changes after the schedule is presented to the public.

They could just have a 9 or 10 month SID who isn't going to work over the summer.

[kate]

Good point Hoops Fan.  Del Val is very fortunate to have a full time S.I.D. with Matt Levy.  He's very thorough with all the school's athletic releases throughout the year including the summer months.

[ronk]

 As it turns out, the conference part of the men's and women's basketball schedules are available for the next 2 seasons on the Landmark web site under Admin/Landmark Schedules   

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Yeah - some conferences like the Centennial as well post those online mainly for the coaches, but certainly for others to see as well. I keep forgetting about them until looking for something else. HAHA

[saratoga]

Word coming out of DC today seems to indicate that former CUA Head Coach Mike Lonergan may be in some hot water for apparently being
"verbally & emotionally abusive" to current and past players at George Washington Univ.

Article goes on to say that he has lost 3 kids to transfer in each of the past 4 years and 1 after his first season.
Losing 13 kids in 5 years is stuff the other coaches love to discuss when recruiting.

Based upon what Charles has stated recently regarding the current CUA coach having a hard time keeping kids...perhaps the apple hasn't fallen far from the tree.

[saratoga]

Here's the story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/gw-basketball-players-report-coachs-verbal-and-emotional-abuse-many-fled-school/2016/07/21/b7d5bd12-4dae-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html#comments

[CardsFan]

Here's the story.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/gw-basketball-players-report-coachs-verbal-and-emotional-abuse-many-fled-school/2016/07/21/b7d5bd12-4dae-11e6-a7d8-13d06b37f256_story.html#comments

Reply to the WaPo story on Longergan yesterday in today's paper: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/07/22/former-gw-player-defends-mike-lonergan-i-have-never-felt-like-he-crossed-the-line/

I'm not going to offer an unqualified defense of Lonergan before the story reaches its conclusion, but there are always two sides to each story. He did not have similar transfer problems during his last 10 years or so at Catholic.

Charles is very right in that a large number of players have left Catholic early during Coach Howes' tenure. I thought I had posted about that before, but maybe not. It is definitely a large number. I'm not going to immediately link that with Howes learning under Lonergan. They are different people.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

There's also a different expectation of coaches today.  People just aren't going to put up with abuse.  Guys like Coach K can get angry and scream from time to time, but that's not a general demeanor.  I don't know Lonergan, but I've had some exposure to some of the coaches who've suffered similar complaints of late and it seems to me there's just a certain style of coaching that doesn't have a future - namely the Bob Knight school.  IF, and I emphasize IF Lonergan is one of those guys, he'll have to change or move on.

We can say all we want about soft kids these days who've been too coddled or expect special treatment and certainly there's some truth to it, but there's also a changing culture that doesn't look at yelling as a motivational technique, except in maybe certain rare circumstances.