MBB: Landmark Conference

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ronk

  Conference should be more competitive from top to bottom, although losing much in quality players that don't seem to be replaced with newcomers.

ronk

Matt L,
  Is that you in the Wash Post Metro story yesterday on the prospective move of the Redskins to Loudoun County?

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

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saratoga

Where there's smoke, there must be a fire...Lonergan out at GW.
According to sources, he was informed by a university administrator around noon today and was asked to immediately leave.
It was further stated that he left without saying a word to staff and did not show for a scheduled dinner this evening with a recruit & his family.
I'm sure much more detail will be available in the coming days.
This is already messy & will likely become even more so in the future.
Kind of a shocker to end this way without at least an internal administrative warning for corrective action.
Apparently, an outside investigative firm was brought in & just released their findings.
Stay tuned.









NEPAFAN

Quote from: saratoga on September 17, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
Where there's smoke, there must be a fire...Lonergan out at GW.
According to sources, he was informed by a university administrator around noon today and was asked to immediately leave.
It was further stated that he left without saying a word to staff and did not show for a scheduled dinner this evening with a recruit & his family.
I'm sure much more detail will be available in the coming days.
This is already messy & will likely become even more so in the future.
Kind of a shocker to end this way without at least an internal administrative warning for corrective action.
Apparently, an outside investigative firm was brought in & just released their findings.
Stay tuned.

Thanks for the scoop. Anything new in Royal Land ?
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Vince Lombardi

ronk

Quote from: NEPAFAN on September 18, 2016, 10:01:44 AM
Quote from: saratoga on September 17, 2016, 02:02:16 AM
Where there's smoke, there must be a fire...Lonergan out at GW.
According to sources, he was informed by a university administrator around noon today and was asked to immediately leave.
It was further stated that he left without saying a word to staff and did not show for a scheduled dinner this evening with a recruit & his family.
I'm sure much more detail will be available in the coming days.
This is already messy & will likely become even more so in the future.
Kind of a shocker to end this way without at least an internal administrative warning for corrective action.
Apparently, an outside investigative firm was brought in & just released their findings.
Stay tuned.

Thanks for the scoop. Anything new in Royal Land ?

Captains have been named: Vitkus,Danzig,Doolan

Pat Coleman

Not super relevant to D-III, but since all the coverage of this story has been one-sided (perhaps the AD is the unnamed source?), here's a response.

I and John Dowd represent Coach Mike Lonergan. Below is a statement we are releasing on his behalf.

Regards,

Scott Tompsett and John Dowd

Statement on Behalf of Coach Mike Lonergan

George Washington University terminated Coach Lonergan's employment with almost five years remaining on his contract. He cooperated fully with the University's Title IX review. The University never identified to the Coach his accuser, much less the details and the substance of the anonymous accusations. He was denied administrative due process in the form of a hearing as required by his contract and the policies of the University. The University failed and refused to give Coach Lonergan written notice of the outcome of the Title IX review, which is required by the University's own policy, and the University violated the confidentiality provisions of the policy by issuing a press release about the review. He will seek appropriate relief from the University for this wrongful termination and treatment.

Coach Lonergan has been a college basketball coach for twenty-eight years with a superior, unblemished reputation for inspiring and protecting his players. He has graduated every single player he recruited. Last season Coach Lonergan coached the team to its best single season in program history and led the team to its first ever NIT Championship. He is the father of five young children.

Coach Lonergan wants to thank those current and former players, their parents, his former staff and colleagues, and others who have supported him throughout his coaching career. He looks forward to coaching at another school in the future.

Scott Tompsett
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CardsFan

This Lonergan thing seems like a real mess. Friday night he was being fired, yesterday morning there was local reporting that GW was buying him out of his contract, and by last night he was being fired again. When the initial report came out a few months ago, it always seemed like this would end with him losing his job. Even if the investigation came up empty, why would he stay there after that? Also seems weird that he went with the team on their preseason trip to Japan.

ronk

  The Landmark yearbook is now out with a few pages on its history as it celebrates its 10th anniversary. http://bit.ly/2dxIKzC
Kate, especially, would be interested in the formulation of the conference of like-minded institutions.  ;D

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: ronk on October 06, 2016, 11:11:02 PM
  The Landmark yearbook is now out with a few pages on its history as it celebrates its 10th anniversary. http://bit.ly/2dxIKzC
Kate, especially, would be interested in the formulation of the conference of like-minded institutions.  ;D

Unless you are the Ivy League or one of the Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy cocktail napkin conferences up in New England, I've never understood the "like-minded institutions" perspective. It is a false narrative and it is perception vs. reality. I will not name players/parents nor will I name schools, but I could write a book, a thick one at that, of athletes over the last 30+ years who did not quite have the chops on paper to get into many of these so called "like-minded institutions". Had they not had an ability to dribble, shoot, score........they would have never gotten in as a plain, old, regular student.

Just remember, whether you are learning it from a professors teaching assistant, with zero real world experience, who speaks some broken English, at Penn or Harvard..........or whether you are at Bloomsburg, learning it from a 35 year accountant himself, who speaks perfect English........a debit is a debit.......a credit is a credit. The periodic table doesn't change regardless of where you go to school and shortly after graduation......one will sink or swim based on their own merits, not the name on a piece of paper hanging on the wall.

I'd bet the "like-minded institutions" had to choke this one down hard when it came out. Two MAC schools in the Top Six of 79 reporting schools in the state. Carnegie-Mellon, Pitt and Villanova have some work to do. That's a lot of very gifted, like-minded students failing right out of the box. Ouch!!!!! ;)

http://www.delval.edu/news/delval-students-excel-on-the-cpa-exam

Oh, and the Bloomsburg mention is by design. Number One attorney in the State of PA (out of the Top 100) and the number one futures and commodities trader (and the guy who taught me)..........both undergrads from Bloomsburg. Riddle me that. ;)


NEPAFAN

Quote from: jmcozenlaw on October 07, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: ronk on October 06, 2016, 11:11:02 PM
  The Landmark yearbook is now out with a few pages on its history as it celebrates its 10th anniversary. http://bit.ly/2dxIKzC
Kate, especially, would be interested in the formulation of the conference of like-minded institutions.  ;D

Unless you are the Ivy League or one of the Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy cocktail napkin conferences up in New England, I've never understood the "like-minded institutions" perspective. It is a false narrative and it is perception vs. reality. I will not name players/parents nor will I name schools, but I could write a book, a thick one at that, of athletes over the last 30+ years who did not quite have the chops on paper to get into many of these so called "like-minded institutions". Had they not had an ability to dribble, shoot, score........they would have never gotten in as a plain, old, regular student.

Just remember, whether you are learning it from a professors teaching assistant, with zero real world experience, who speaks some broken English, at Penn or Harvard..........or whether you are at Bloomsburg, learning it from a 35 year accountant himself, who speaks perfect English........a debit is a debit.......a credit is a credit. The periodic table doesn't change regardless of where you go to school and shortly after graduation......one will sink or swim based on their own merits, not the name on a piece of paper hanging on the wall.

I'd bet the "like-minded institutions" had to choke this one down hard when it came out. Two MAC schools in the Top Six of 79 reporting schools in the state. Carnegie-Mellon, Pitt and Villanova have some work to do. That's a lot of very gifted, like-minded students failing right out of the box. Ouch!!!!! ;)

http://www.delval.edu/news/delval-students-excel-on-the-cpa-exam

Oh, and the Bloomsburg mention is by design. Number One attorney in the State of PA (out of the Top 100) and the number one futures and commodities trader (and the guy who taught me)..........both undergrads from Bloomsburg. Riddle me that. ;)

Teaching assistant that speaks broken English; are you serious?
A school without football is in danger of deteriorating into a medieval study hall.
Vince Lombardi

gordonmann

Hey, I went to a school in one of those Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy conferences...and that still makes me laugh. :)

jmcozenlaw

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Quote from: gordonmann on October 07, 2016, 10:54:36 AM
Hey, I went to a school in one of those Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy conferences...and that still makes me laugh. :)

But you are not the stereotypical Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy, Trust Fund Baby from those conferences..........who thinks their you-know-what doesn't stink!! ;)

Salmon colored shorts, with pictures of lobsters (or labstahs) on them........with a Polo or Izod shirt with the collar in the up position. They were easy prey on Spring Break......and I went to Swarthmore, which is no joke (I wouldn't get in today), but we were out on our own island vs. having an entire conference of schools like us. Yuck!! ;)

jmcozenlaw

Quote from: NEPAFAN on October 07, 2016, 09:14:24 AM
Quote from: jmcozenlaw on October 07, 2016, 09:07:34 AM
Quote from: ronk on October 06, 2016, 11:11:02 PM
  The Landmark yearbook is now out with a few pages on its history as it celebrates its 10th anniversary. http://bit.ly/2dxIKzC
Kate, especially, would be interested in the formulation of the conference of like-minded institutions.  ;D

Unless you are the Ivy League or one of the Biffy-Buffy-Tiffy cocktail napkin conferences up in New England, I've never understood the "like-minded institutions" perspective. It is a false narrative and it is perception vs. reality. I will not name players/parents nor will I name schools, but I could write a book, a thick one at that, of athletes over the last 30+ years who did not quite have the chops on paper to get into many of these so called "like-minded institutions". Had they not had an ability to dribble, shoot, score........they would have never gotten in as a plain, old, regular student.

Just remember, whether you are learning it from a professors teaching assistant, with zero real world experience, who speaks some broken English, at Penn or Harvard..........or whether you are at Bloomsburg, learning it from a 35 year accountant himself, who speaks perfect English........a debit is a debit.......a credit is a credit. The periodic table doesn't change regardless of where you go to school and shortly after graduation......one will sink or swim based on their own merits, not the name on a piece of paper hanging on the wall.

I'd bet the "like-minded institutions" had to choke this one down hard when it came out. Two MAC schools in the Top Six of 79 reporting schools in the state. Carnegie-Mellon, Pitt and Villanova have some work to do. That's a lot of very gifted, like-minded students failing right out of the box. Ouch!!!!! ;)

http://www.delval.edu/news/delval-students-excel-on-the-cpa-exam

Oh, and the Bloomsburg mention is by design. Number One attorney in the State of PA (out of the Top 100) and the number one futures and commodities trader (and the guy who taught me)..........both undergrads from Bloomsburg. Riddle me that. ;)

Teaching assistant that speaks broken English; are you serious?

Listen to the students themselves (I've hired.......and fired many of them over the past 30 years) and at the "elite" schools, that it what they say verbatim. It is not a knock whatsoever, just the occasional fact that is pointed out by many students of this ilk. You may be personally too far away from the matter to ever hear it being brought up, but I hear it weekly (I sometimes read it as an excuse for a student who got in the front door of the "elite" school........but didn't excel). You picked out a fraction of the much broader subject matter, as the majority of it is fact and difficult to challenge. Regardless of where you go to school, especially if you are challenged socio-economically, your success or lack thereof will happen based on your hard work and diligence........not where you went to school. One of the wealthiest guys in my inner circle (about $110 million net worth) went to a tiny college in Philadelphia (Spring Garden College). You've probably never heard of it as it doesn't exist anymore. It went the way of Upsala and dozens of other small schools over the past 25+ years. Nicest guy in the world. One of the most giving people you'll ever meet. There is no "like-minded" here....... only "steel-minded" in his determination and resolve. I preach that all of the time to students. Just because you don't wind up in an ultra-competitive, elite school.......the possibilities are just as endless. I went to Swarthmore (wouldn't get in today) and I've done quite well for myself, but I think that I would have done just as well if I went to West Chester or East Stroudsburg because a few years into my career, where I went to undergrad never came up. It truly mattered to nobody. When I was promoted to a SVP position, I was backfilled by a gentleman from Holy Family (in NE Philadelphia), after his first two years at Bucks County Community College. He is now Kevin Plank's right hand man, advising him strategically and managing a large trust account. Kevin didn't care that he went to a community college and a non-descript, "non-elite" school. He came from absolutely nothing.......was the first in his family to go to college and has become a rockstar. I'll take a dozen of him over a dozen Ivy Leaguers any day of the week.........just as Kevin has done. ;)

My local boys (no names, just initials), former Scranton hoopsters (R.A and D.L. from CBW) can and have attested to this as they both work every day with people who run the gamut from the "elite's" to the "like-minded's" to the "hell, I just needed a piece of paper" to the "I didn't go to college".........and they are in the same muck as thousands of others, with their school from back in the day having zero influence on whether they climb the ladder or get passed on by. Like-minded........the false narrative in education (see the shenanigans with Harvard hoops.......the whole story never came out) ;)

ronk

  I was on Catholic U's campus last night for Alumni Weekend - my wife was in the celebratory Golden 50th class. President Garvey stopped by for some pre-dinner remarks. Among other items, he mentioned a $2.5 million gift for Dufour Center improvements(locker rooms and coaches' rooms). Didn't think to ask him what the timeline was. Opponents should welcome the upgrade as Landmark doubleheader basketball games strained those resources.