MBB: Landmark Conference

[ronk]

Jmcozenlaw,
   Just heard the Hoopsville buy/sell comments on Scranton; I'm not upset - largely agree about the schedule(200th in difficulty); historically, they only occasionally have tough non-conference foes on the schedule. We'll give them a pass this season with such a young team needing to gain experience playing with each other.
   I'm just really enjoying watching them play this season, like I haven't in decades.

[NEPAFAN]

So i was bored dug into some stats tonight just the top 6 teams in the top 25 opponents records Nebraska Wesleyan 35-37,2 William's 34-44,3 Augustana 29-32,4Hamilton 28-46,5Whitman 23-31,6Oshkosh 20-47 and my Royals 32-28 just did some research I was bored.

Massey has Scranton's strength of schedule at 205 as of today.  It's about the same as Williams and Hamilton, not really close to any of the other top teams.  Those two schools have an immediate track record of success, with almost no graduations from last year.  That's the difference.  As we've been saying all along, if Scranton keeps playing well, they'll get noticed - they're already getting votes!

Ryan:

Re: Hoopsville. Ethan graduated, the Danzig on this years squad is Jackson.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

So i was bored dug into some stats tonight just the top 6 teams in the top 25 opponents records Nebraska Wesleyan 35-37,2 William's 34-44,3 Augustana 29-32,4Hamilton 28-46,5Whitman 23-31,6Oshkosh 20-47 and my Royals 32-28 just did some research I was bored.

Massey has Scranton's strength of schedule at 205 as of today.  It's about the same as Williams and Hamilton, not really close to any of the other top teams.  Those two schools have an immediate track record of success, with almost no graduations from last year.  That's the difference.  As we've been saying all along, if Scranton keeps playing well, they'll get noticed - they're already getting votes!

Ryan:

Re: Hoopsville. Ethan graduated, the Danzig on this years squad is Jackson.

Yeah, I figured that out after the show.  Thanks.  Too many Danzigs to keep straight.

[Rofrog]

Sos bob yes 200 William's 198,Hamilton 250 means nothing when you play the game on the floor look at a couple years ago Middlebury had Scranton beat in every aspect of the game on paper,sos or whatever you want to put out there. Guess what Scranton won that game at Middlebury.So  please dont read into those phony ass numbers when it comes to any sports means nothing.Game is played on the court not by what massey thinks or you guys think.I will tell you this though as a long Royals fan I havent seen a team like this at Scranton since 1990 Cusano,Hoppy and company That is when Scranton was a power house 70,80,early 90s believe me this team is good Starting 3 freshman and two juniors and freshman coming off the bench what a joy to watch for the next couple years.

[Pat Coleman]

Sos bob yes 200 William's 198,Hamilton 250 means nothing when you play the game on the floor look at a couple years ago Middlebury had Scranton beat in every aspect of the game on paper,sos or whatever you want to put out there.

Are you citing December 2018 SOS stats in discussing a March 2012 game?

[Rofrog]

Both what is the difference not a thing.That is why I said sos means nothing when it comes to the game of basketball on the court. You play the game on the court you win your league your in bottomline.

[NEPAFAN]

Scranton 106 Manhattaville 75

When do the fans start packing the long center?

[ronk]

Scranton 106 Manhattaville 75

When do the fans start packing the long center?

February - when the students are back from intersession break.

[Pat Coleman]

Both what is the difference not a thing.That is why I said sos means nothing when it comes to the game of basketball on the court.

And what were the 2012 SOS numbers?

[Rofrog]

My point didnt matter because Scranton proved everyone wrong.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm just trying to suggest your argument is lazy and make you support it intellectually with the actual numbers, that's all.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

rofrog is also misunderstanding Bob's point ... his point wasn't that the SOS numbers indicate if a team can beat someone with a better SOS or not ... he was simply saying he isn't getting a good read on whether Scranton is as good as an undefeated mark is ... based on a poor Massey SOS number. In other words, yeah ... you probably should be undefeated with an SOS that low.

And as Pat indicated, arguing this season's SOS and saying in March 2012 Scranton won a big game is ridiculous. They aren't even in the same conversation. But if you would like to stick to the 2012 reference... Scranton also got their doors blown off them the next round against Cabrini. Those SOS number comparisons could be problematic for the argument because Cabrini has never really had strong SOS numbers.

[Rofrog]

No Bob's words Scrantons sos at 200 would be 4 loses in the  cciw.So what he is saying is Williams, Hamilton,whitworth would all have four losses in that conference.No you play the game on the floor nothing to do with your sos.

[Rofrog]

Read my whole write up and not pick up on what pat highlighted to fit your agenda.

[Royals81]

My head's starting to hurt trying to remember SOS's from 2012.  I'll just focus on appreciating the return of the Scranton men to the D3Hoops Top 25 and their 8-0 start with a very young but talented team.