MBB: Landmark Conference

watcher · December 24, 2009, 01:02:39 PM

Quote from: BCannon on December 22, 2009, 08:30:51 PM
Nice recognition for Ashworth...i kno it would be a simple google search problly to find but is there a link to a site where we can see the other candidates...i remember Arnold was also a Cousy Finalist.

I think Merch Marine at this pt would be a good choice for league favorite...think I saw Scanton lost two in a row going into break.. Susqu played St Mary's very tough and held in my opinion one of if not the best backcourt in the mid atlantic in check..JC seems to like playing home games and loathe playing away

As for MM Coach...I think you make a good case for him, however IMO I think they are the most talented/deep team in the league this yr. They lack a "Star" perhaps such as Banzhaf Ashworth Spencer, but they have a number of guys who can have a big game any given night...Samuels was my preseason pick for POY last yr, I think if MM wins the league he will have a huge hand in them doing so and perhaps my pick will come a yr later.

From what I heard St Mary's guards gave susquenna trouble especially the point guard they were up 20 untill they coach sat both of them for majority of the 2nd half with foul trouble and allowed susquenna back into the game

BCannon · December 26, 2009, 12:21:22 PM

watcher-judging by your email address something tells me you are partial towards the PG, but I will take your word for it. Judging by the boxscore/writeup Alex still had a real good game, but I saw him and Cammontae(sp) vs. McDaniel and Hood where they both dominated the game and it just doesn't appear that this was that kind of game for either of them.

SU fresh Pannell had 29 and 12 in the game against the host of the tourney...if/when this team gets everyone clicking at the same time they are gonna be REALLY tough to beat

susiddad · December 29, 2009, 09:44:15 AM

I'd like to see a starting lineup that stays the same for conference play. After this tournament, can we get stability and roles outside of SS and BM?

I'll roll with HP too, but we see a new freshman showcasing his skills every week. It should be 7 maybe 8 guys going to battle. Pick them and let's do it.

hoopit123 · December 29, 2009, 06:07:24 PM

i bet figuring out the 'right' lineup is picking away at marcinek. and i bet he is jsut as puzzled as all of us are. someone new steps up and performs each game...how can you predict who it will be before each game?! augustus started hot, now numbers are dropping quickly. mckain was high scorer a few games, now not even seeing time? further, we sam this williamson kid start a few games, and now that is history. then pannell...where was he between SU home tourney and PR trip? non existent. perhaps hes a tournament player...lets get him into ncaa's!!

hoopit123 · December 29, 2009, 06:11:22 PM

VERY curious to see which team with which group of players shows up this weekend vs. F&M... another top25 win will do wonders for this young SU team heading into landmark play. last year SU lost at the buzzer to FandM in this same tourney last year(check it on youtube, still interesting to watch from time to time), so hopefully they give them a test again.

susiddad · December 29, 2009, 10:33:36 PM

Last years game was amazing vs. F and M. Still upset over it. The freshman class is clearly strong to very strong. Hoopit, great mention of Mckain. He doesn't see the court anymore.

Last few years we have been good to very good. I think that is the difference between youth and experience. It would be nice to see this group make the jump, but I don't see how. The confidence swings must be a lot for these veterans and freshmans.

What is the harm in picking 8 guys and just going with it? Instead of wheeling and dealing with 14?

Do any other teams do this?

NEPAFAN · December 30, 2009, 12:20:34 PM

Scranton Royals New Year's Resolutions

1) Turn the ball over less than 20 times a game.

2) Limit Offensive Rebounds and 2nd chance opportunities.

3) Recruit, Recruit, Recruit!

Happy New Year All!

Matt Letourneau · December 30, 2009, 01:31:36 PM

Quote from: susiddad on December 29, 2009, 10:33:36 PM
Last years game was amazing vs. F and M. Still upset over it. The freshman class is clearly strong to very strong. Hoopit, great mention of Mckain. He doesn't see the court anymore.

Last few years we have been good to very good. I think that is the difference between youth and experience. It would be nice to see this group make the jump, but I don't see how. The confidence swings must be a lot for these veterans and freshmans.

What is the harm in picking 8 guys and just going with it? Instead of wheeling and dealing with 14?

Do any other teams do this?

I haven't been following Sus at all so I don't know what they are doing, but I imagine they are probably doing what a lot of teams do--seeing exactly what they have during the non-league part of the schedule, and then they'll probably settle on a rotation for their league games. Unless you think you've got a great chance at a Pool C bid, which I would imagine that none of the Landmark teams do unless somebody gets really hot and then loses in the championship game, then really all you are doing is getting ready for league play when the games really count.

susiddad · December 30, 2009, 02:30:37 PM

Mr. Letourneau,

I agree to a degree. Seems like 10 starters in 10 games is a bit high though. All I want to see is it stabilitzed for conference play. We have seen some of these teams get the pool c bids before so i wouldnt be surprised if a 19-6 tyoe team can get one. And last years conference season was strong enough to earn a pool c bid if it was not for weak showings vs. Miseriblecordia and Bidgewater we would have been 20-6 which might have been good enough.....so im not so sure. And don't minimize this uncertainty when we go to Juniata and start 2 freshman and lose to the Brian Cannon and Bert Ferkoless Juniata Eagles.

BCannon · December 30, 2009, 06:56:42 PM

I dont think the Landmark qualifies pool c anymore

Pat Coleman · December 30, 2009, 07:56:18 PM

Everyone qualifies for Pool C, it's the at-large bids. It's Pool B in which the Landmark no longer falls.

hoopit123 · December 30, 2009, 08:01:03 PM

sus...imagine being in marcinek's shoes, making a gameplan. diff ppl start each game because of the inconsistency of just about everybody except SS and BM. he is likely just looking at the latest game, and starting the best 5 from that game. but then those who start this game end up doing nothing, and some other guys play well, so the next game they start. i guarantee marcinek is just as puzzled and longing to have a set rotation as we are hoping so occurs. going into each game with question marks and not knowing what to except must be tough....but so happens when you have such a young team. there likely wont be a set in stone starting 5 until next season.

BCannon · December 30, 2009, 09:21:14 PM

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 30, 2009, 07:56:18 PM
Everyone qualifies for Pool C, it's the at-large bids. It's Pool B in which the Landmark no longer falls.

ahhh ty sorry bout that mix up

Matt Letourneau · December 30, 2009, 11:11:54 PM

C is at-large, B is for teams that don't have a shot at an AQ (Pool A).

I was a bit surprised that Landmark got 2 teams in last year. Regardless, my comment was more a reflection of how the season has panned out so far. To date, Merchant Marine has probably been most impressive--both of their losses are to very good teams. Scranton's losses are to pretty good teams, too, but they haven't really beaten anybody.

Catholic's got the DeSales win, and their loss to York in OT doesn't look so bad now. The loss I was worried about was to Washington and Lee, but it remains to be seen how bad that one was--W&L has played pretty well so far. Obviously they got blown out by Wittenberg, which is a very good team, but...that alone shouldn't kill their chances. Beyond that, is probably a stretch for anyone else to be thinking about Pool C. But as you say, its early.

Anyway, CUA beat Stevenson tonight 91-70. The only senior, Matt Fazzini, had 22, and Banzhaf had 18.

susiddad · January 02, 2010, 04:59:41 PM

At their best, SU CUA, and Scranton would beat usmma at their best. Consistency counts though. I'm not sure who the starting 5 is gonna be next season either. I think it will be even more confusing. It can't be easy, however I would pick a direction and stick with it. Either the young boys grow up quick and are ready down the line or the jr's and sr's take a little more ownership.