MBB: Landmark Conference

[cold_case]

Letttttetttornope.  JB was not the best last year, JP was, and he won the award.

As far as Londo in and Majors out, I think it is Majors time to win in it.  He is leading the league in steals and assists for like the 3rd straight year.  He also has the highest assist to turnover ratio in the league for the second straight year.  That gets my vote after being snubbed last year to a degree.

Londo is a good player, but again, even if the performances were even....Eli Londo was a "bust" up until this year.  Majors has been a starter for 4 years and has earned the accolades.

Postseason awards are based the current years performance, not the past.
I'm all for not having the skinny punk, Spencer whatever, on the first unit.

[hoopit123]

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I'm all for not having the skinny punk, Spencer whatever, on the first unit.

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that's pretty rude, to make a personal insult on someone, a 19-20 yr old kid, on a public forum.   those who love to take away karma points, now is your time to feast on a comment like that.

besides that point, how could you not have the skinny punk on the first team?   top 3 in scoring.   that shows consistency game in and game out. plus, everyone harps about scoring being everything (matt's whole basis of why JB was POY last year...putting all other stats and impact aside).  name a better shooting guard? (ash is considered a PG)

the top all-stars need to be consistent performers.   there is no way you can say that about londo this season.  last 2 weekends, sure! hes played superb.  before that? is there any consistency in his numbers that amount to impressive season-long stats that warrant top-honors?

as for POY this year, i go with ashworth.  just think--he is the team's playmaker, making the team go and initiating every play on offense---AND HES STILL THE TOP SCORER IN CONFERENCE!   JB scores less than ash finishing off plays from others' hard work.  ashworth does the hard work and the scoring.  basically, he does almost everything to keep that team together and competitive.  if you're looking for criteria for POY, impact on the rest of the team must be one of the top criterion.  you could take JB out and place any other person with his finishing abliity out there to catch passes and finish layups as he does.  besides that, the team would otherwise function the same.   take ashworth out, scranton is a 3-4 win team.

[cold_case]

I'm all for not having the skinny punk, Spencer whatever, on the first unit.

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that's pretty rude, to make a personal insult on someone, a 19-20 yr old kid, on a public forum.   those who love to take away karma points, now is your time to feast on a comment like that.

besides that point, how could you not have the skinny punk on the first team?   top 3 in scoring.   that shows consistency game in and game out. plus, everyone harps about scoring being everything (matt's whole basis of why JB was POY last year...putting all other stats and impact aside).  name a better shooting guard? (ash is considered a PG)

the top all-stars need to be consistent performers.   there is no way you can say that about londo this season.  last 2 weekends, sure! hes played superb.  before that? is there any consistency in his numbers that amount to impressive season-long stats that warrant top-honors?

as for POY this year, i go with ashworth.  just think--he is the team's playmaker, making the team go and initiating every play on offense---AND HES STILL THE TOP SCORER IN CONFERENCE!   JB scores less than ash finishing off plays from others' hard work.  ashworth does the hard work and the scoring.  basically, he does almost everything to keep that team together and competitive.  if you're looking for criteria for POY, impact on the rest of the team must be one of the top criterion.  you could take JB out and place any other person with his finishing abliity out there to catch passes and finish layups as he does.  besides that, the team would otherwise function the same.   take ashworth out, scranton is a 3-4 win team.

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First of all, it was immature of you to solicit posters to take karma away. Give me a break and grow up.
Secondly, a close pal of mine and former SU great told me he would never post on here so I wrote it to draw his ire in hopes of him coming out. Looks like it didn't work. He just phoned me and said, "nice try."
However, despite all his accomplishments, it doesn't change one mans opinion that he is a skinny punk.
As for Scranon being a 3-4 win team without Ashworth, that's what I thought they would be with him this year but this league is very weak and the only people on here that will admit it have been following Division III for a very long time.
This could be Scranton's worse team ever, including the 5-19 squad of a few years back and they had a great low post player in Brian O'Donnell, along with an assortment of promising long range shooters.
Where is the low post presence and promise on this team?
Why are they winning? Read above in reference to weak league.

[NEPAFAN]

Worst team ever ?!! Is that a joke?

Although I heard one of Danzig's recruiting contacts dried up...

[Matt Letourneau]

I'm all for not having the skinny punk, Spencer whatever, on the first unit.

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that's pretty rude, to make a personal insult on someone, a 19-20 yr old kid, on a public forum.   those who love to take away karma points, now is your time to feast on a comment like that.

besides that point, how could you not have the skinny punk on the first team?   top 3 in scoring.   that shows consistency game in and game out. plus, everyone harps about scoring being everything (matt's whole basis of why JB was POY last year...putting all other stats and impact aside).  name a better shooting guard? (ash is considered a PG)

the top all-stars need to be consistent performers.   there is no way you can say that about londo this season.  last 2 weekends, sure! hes played superb.  before that? is there any consistency in his numbers that amount to impressive season-long stats that warrant top-honors?

as for POY this year, i go with ashworth.  just think--he is the team's playmaker, making the team go and initiating every play on offense---AND HES STILL THE TOP SCORER IN CONFERENCE!   JB scores less than ash finishing off plays from others' hard work.  ashworth does the hard work and the scoring.  basically, he does almost everything to keep that team together and competitive.  if you're looking for criteria for POY, impact on the rest of the team must be one of the top criterion.  you could take JB out and place any other person with his finishing abliity out there to catch passes and finish layups as he does.  besides that, the team would otherwise function the same.   take ashworth out, scranton is a 3-4 win team.



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Well that's kind of the point...there ISN'T anybody that I'm aware of in this league with his finishing ability.  I'm not sure that there's anybody even close. 

And it isn't like he's been playing with all time great guards setting him up...

[susiddad]

Hoopit.  Don't get too upset over Cold Case's comments.  Just email it to SS and add some fuel to the rivalry.  I don't have a problem with him calling out SS.  That's our guy and I believe he will come thru for us down the stretch (in his so. season) I might add.  So, get used to the skinny punk cold case and know you might want to change your screen name to 2 cold cases looking at the roster you bring back next year.

Patch makes Londo clean his lunch tray and do his laundry.

[hoopit123]

no cold case, it is immature for you--knowing that the players from every team read this forum--to pick on a young kid.  gimme a break, and 'grow up'.  pick on someone your own size, isn't that the phrase?  it's one thing for ppl. to critique their basketball skills on here, ya know, since its a bball forum.  but it is totally off the wall to personally attack one's, a kid's nonetheless, physical appearance.   

for all the gripe sussidad gets for his posts (all in fun, not hatred), i'm shocked and puzzled in the fact that i am the only one that finds this comment inappropriate and note-worthy...that's all my point was re: karma points.

[cold_case]

no cold case, it is immature for you--knowing that the players from every team read this forum--to pick on a young kid.  gimme a break, and 'grow up'.  pick on someone your own size, isn't that the phrase?  it's one thing for ppl. to critique their basketball skills on here, ya know, since its a bball forum.  but it is totally off the wall to personally attack one's, a kid's nonetheless, physical appearance.  

for all the gripe sussidad gets for his posts (all in fun, not hatred), i'm shocked and puzzled in the fact that i am the only one that finds this comment inappropriate and note-worthy...that's all my point was re: karma points.

Now there's a double standard regarding players or posters? It's ok to call him Lettetternope or whatever?
As for me "picking on someone my own size," I can only answer that with two words: How cliche.'
This is a forum, you know, a place where people voice their opinions. It's apparent you're not on this board very long because I've seen people get banned over the years for saying much. much worse. In essence, this pales in comparison.

Hoopit.  Don't get too upset over Cold Case's comments.  Just email it to SS and add some fuel to the rivalry.  I don't have a problem with him calling out SS.  That's our guy and I believe he will come thru for us down the stretch (in his so. season) I might add.  So, get used to the skinny punk cold case and know you might want to change your screen name to 2 cold cases looking at the roster you bring back next year.

Patch makes Londo clean his lunch tray and do his laundry.

And the double-standards continue. Now your insulting cafeteria employees and dry cleaners.
I don't know who Patch is, I guess you're referring to a former player. Do you really want to compare past performers of both schools?
Also, why would I want to change my screen name at the roster Scranton brings back next year? They're actually bringing more back next year, by far.

[TheGrove]

Can't we all just get along?? *holds up lighter and sings Kumbayah"

[cold_case]

Can't we all just get along?? *holds up lighter and sings Kumbayah"

Vox populi....yes, I agree with ya.

[hoopit123]

too cliche?? then here's the point.  [im assuming that] you are an adult.  act like it. adults dont pick on kids.

you know you're in the wrong; the discussion will stop here...we dont want any more of the cafeteria workers and launders reading this forum to get offended.

[susiddad]

hoopit, you are right.  but when you engage an idiot (coldcase) you cant win.  karma has nothing to do with intelligence, it is two morons constantly patting themselves on the back. 

none of the revolutionary posters counted karma or viewed it as a  worthy standard of excellence.

I defend SS,  cold case.  He is a better player as a sophomore as you were as a senior.  for the record hoopit, it is a little wrong to call him out as a kid, but who cares?  id sooner him call him out for his appearance rather than his performance.  becuase we will certainly be keeping an eye on his good friend londo this weekend.  hope he puts up a strong performance.  id hate to see the su fans come down on him....(with the exception of the grove) who offers nothing.

[TheGrove]

Aw darn, there goes the niceness...

[cold_case]

id sooner him call him out for his appearance rather than his performance.  

Great use of the english language.
By the way, how many times will Casanova pose should he hit a three-pointer.
Yeah, that's class.
Case closed!

[lefty2]

id sooner him call him out for his appearance rather than his performance. 

Great use of the english language.

Speaking of.....