MBB: Landmark Conference

Started by Dave 'd-mac' McHugh, February 20, 2007, 07:23:47 PM

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saratoga

If the mission statement of the Landmark Conference is accurate...then at least one of the two schools mentioned is automatically disqualified.  ;)
Last year the rumor I heard centered around Vassar & Skidmore.

Pat Coleman

Oh, you know, come to think of it I had heard Vassar's name too once upon a time. Hadn't heard Skidmore, though.
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ronk

Kate,
  My sense of President Thomforde's remarks is that Moravian isn't having financial difficulties; they rather want to spend more of their resources on reducing the cost of a Moravian education for more of their students by cutting out less significant items like lacrosse.
  My speculation is that they remain happy with the conference of "like-minded institutions" and won't be returning to one assembled for  geographical considerations, primarily.

kate

Seriously, the place for "like-minded" is religion & politics.  College should be all about diversity, even in sports.  Pat, i swear, if i mention "like minded" again you can toss me.  Ronk, did you read the Moravian article closely?  They want the students to stay on campus (no off campus apts.), and they want them to buy at least the minimum food plan.  PLEASE don't get me wrong - other than Lafayette in my back yard - Moravian is by far our closest D3 school, one of my very good friends is a grad, & another friends daughter & son-in-law are professors at the place.  It's just that times are tough,  & yes, i suppose for even you know what kinds of places, since i've sworn off the word.

TheGrove

Quote from: kate on February 19, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Seriously, the place for "like-minded" is religion & politics.  College should be all about diversity, even in sports.  Pat, i swear, if i mention "like minded" again you can toss me.  Ronk, did you read the Moravian article closely?  They want the students to stay on campus (no off campus apts.), and they want them to buy at least the minimum food plan.  PLEASE don't get me wrong - other than Lafayette in my back yard - Moravian is by far our closest D3 school, one of my very good friends is a grad, & another friends daughter & son-in-law are professors at the place.  It's just that times are tough,  & yes, i suppose for even you know what kinds of places, since i've sworn off the word.

Is that a promise??  ;D

The story I heard (keep in mind this is all rumor) is that there was some new student housing built recently that contributed to debt. Hence the "all hands on campus" ruling. FWIW.

cold_case

Quote from: kate on February 19, 2010, 03:58:36 PM
Seriously, the place for "like-minded" is religion & politics.  College should be all about diversity, even in sports.  Pat, i swear, if i mention "like minded" again you can toss me.  Ronk, did you read the Moravian article closely?  They want the students to stay on campus (no off campus apts.), and they want them to buy at least the minimum food plan. 

Moravian should decide what's more beneificial to themselves and their students, then make one of those two options mandatory, although I don't know if it's possible.
It is alarming to hear of that many dorms and rooms available.

Matt Letourneau

I don't think that a Catholic school essentially run by the Bishops is ever going to be in great financial shape, but CUA has grown its enrollement signficantly over the last several years.  When I was a student there 10 years ago, undergrand enrollment hovered around 2200-2400.  Its now 3400--that's a pretty big jump.  To go along with it, there's been significant campus upgrades--new dorms, a beautiful new student center, etc.  I know that at least for a while, they could no longer guarantee on-campus housing (though I like the most recent new residence hall has alleviated that).

Interesting to see what's happening with other schools in the league--times are certainly tough and 7 out of 8 of these institutions are not cheap.


hoopit123

It would be very hard for me to believe SU is having any financial troubles.  If anything, comparing the place now to what it was 5-6 years ago, i have to say they are PROSPERING.  likewise with catholic, student enrollment is WAY up.  in light of that, tuition keeps increasing in order to fit the needs of more students, i.e. an entire new VILLAGE of housing on campus, and who knows how many million dollar science building that is near completion.  every day i drive by that thing, i think to myself, damn, SU must be doing well---its a VERY impressive building, state of the art.

I've noticed that SU has also bought new home uniforms this season---something a very tight personal team budget under the shadow of a tight athletic budget WOULDNT allow.

it may be that in light of bad times SU just keeps raising prices to follow, or maybe there are some BIG alumni donors out there--at least for the atheltic dept., i know that is true.  (look up the name lopardo). 

whatever the reasons, if one was to say it, there is no way i would beleive that SU is having financial issues at this time.

ronk

Quote from: hoopit123 on February 20, 2010, 10:41:12 AM
it may be that in light of bad times SU just keeps raising prices to follow, or maybe there are some BIG alumni donors out there--at least for the atheltic dept., i know that is true.  (look up the name lopardo). 

whatever the reasons, if one was to say it, there is no way i would beleive that SU is having financial issues at this time.

  I'm recalling a name from the past, possibly a bball/football player named Nick Lopardo.

NEPAFAN

What, is everyone building science centers? Add Scranton to that list. Can't speak to Scranton's financial well being, but everyone has lost endowment due to the market being down the past year or so.
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Matt Letourneau

Catholic over Goucher 46-33....(yes, that's the final).

Uh...great defense guys?  Saving it all for Scranton?

(According to the Goucher live blog--which was great--that's an all time low for Goucher.) 

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh

To quote Coach Howes... "they want it more then you do." Heard that a few times from the Catholic bench as Goucher showed all game they really did want it more then CUA. The problem Goucher had was, despite seemingly outplaying CUA all game long, they couldn't hit a shot to save their lives. Near the end of the game, they were shooting .234 for the game. CUA was around .310. So, because of poor shooting, CUA came away with the full-game win with a half-time score! :)

By the way... I know Matt you aren't going to be happy with this, but Banzhaf didn't do anything yesterday to change my opinion. If anything, he disappointed me. He wants the game to come to him and doesn't do anything to elevate his game. He isn't aggressive, he thinks the refs will bale him out on occasions, and even didn't understand why he was being subbed out at one point when he just wasn't playing well. The point that he hasn't raised his game is valid. He has plateaued and seems to think he is good enough. That is hurting his team. He was basically a non-factor last night.
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ronk

Dmac,
    Shhhhhh! Don't get Jason riled up until Scranton's game Wednesday is over. ;)

cugrad

At Scranton, Catholic was dominated!  At Catholic, after an early 12 - 3 Catholic lead, Scranton again dominated the Cards, going up by as many as 15.  Unfortunately for us Catholic fans, I really don't think Scranton has much to worry about Wednesday night.  D-Mac mentioned that Goucher,  playing for nothing, clearly wanted last night's game more than the Cards.  That was also evident Tuesday night against Scranton. 

I think Jason B. is a very good player, and Catholic is lucky to have him.  However, his performance this year warrents second team all conference.  BTY, Matt, Hileary had much more of an impact for the Cards than does JB.  JB is more of a player like Morley, but I think Morley came through a bit more when it counted.

GO Cards!  Play with passion and reckless abandon!  You have nothing to lose.  Remember, Defense wins champions!!  Hitting some shots won't hurt you chances, though!! 
GO CARDS!!!


Matt Letourneau

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 21, 2010, 04:57:10 PM
To quote Coach Howes... "they want it more then you do." Heard that a few times from the Catholic bench as Goucher showed all game they really did want it more then CUA. The problem Goucher had was, despite seemingly outplaying CUA all game long, they couldn't hit a shot to save their lives. Near the end of the game, they were shooting .234 for the game. CUA was around .310. So, because of poor shooting, CUA came away with the full-game win with a half-time score! :)

By the way... I know Matt you aren't going to be happy with this, but Banzhaf didn't do anything yesterday to change my opinion. If anything, he disappointed me. He wants the game to come to him and doesn't do anything to elevate his game. He isn't aggressive, he thinks the refs will bale him out on occasions, and even didn't understand why he was being subbed out at one point when he just wasn't playing well. The point that he hasn't raised his game is valid. He has plateaued and seems to think he is good enough. That is hurting his team. He was basically a non-factor last night.

You must have not seen what I wrote after the CUA-Scranton game.  I like all the CUA guys and respect them, so I'm never going to hit anybody, but I made some strong comments about JB.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote.  He's got to step it up.  Period.   He's not playing like a POY candidate.  The Moravian game was senior night, so Matt Fazzini started--but I will note that instead of sitting Reed, it was JB that didn't start.

CUGrad--now I agree with you--when we had this discussion at the beginning of the year, my comment was that through two years, JB had the more impressive career.  That was true then.  Now that we're just about done with year 3, it isn't true anymore.  Yes, his game is similar to Morley's--but I'll put it this way--if JB had 75% of the intensity that Morley brought to the court, he'd be 125% of the player he was. 

I hope this does fire him up--I'm as big a fan of his as there is, and I'm saying I'm disappointed--he's not playing like he cares.  Prove me wrong and shut me up.