MBB: Landmark Conference

[cold_case]

Well, saratoga, when you get a kid drop in who should have graduated 2 years ago, and ended up at Drew via Rutgers, Idaho State, and a community college...its amazing what can happen.
This didn't receive a lot of scrutiny on the board this year and I've been meaning to do a post on it--it certainly has changed the complexion of the league.

You inquired if I was insinutating when you fail to show after Catholic losses.
My question now is, what are you insinuating in regards to the youngster from Drew?

[Matt Letourneau]

Well, saratoga, when you get a kid drop in who should have graduated 2 years ago, and ended up at Drew via Rutgers, Idaho State, and a community college...its amazing what can happen.
This didn't receive a lot of scrutiny on the board this year and I've been meaning to do a post on it--it certainly has changed the complexion of the league.

You inquired if I was insinutating when you fail to show after Catholic losses.
My question now is, what are you insinuating in regards to the youngster from Drew?

Well, since you didn't really answer me that time, I could return the favor. 

But, what I'm insinuating is that it is most unusual in this particular academically focused league to have a player with that basketball background.  I don't know the first thing about his situation with that regard and I hope Drew works out for him, because clearly his other stops have not.  In the CAC, this happened several times, when an ex-division 1 player ended up at a particular school after several other stops, and it did not end well for anybody.  I'm not saying this is going to be the same thing, and I hope it is not.  But I don't think I'm out of bounds to point out that to my knowledge, there are no other players in the league who are as well traveled and who were once considered to be such a good prospect, and clearly still are a very talented player.

I'm leery of "get good fast" schemes--I've just seen it too many times.  I don't know what Drew's admissions standards are for transfers or anything like that, so I don't know if that is what is going on here, but hopefully that is not the case.  Drew is a very good school and he's getting a really good education there. 

[Pat Coleman]

That might get them off the snide.

I highly doubt you will ever get off the snide.

The term you are trying to use, however, is to get off the schneid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(G)

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Matt or anyone else - let's keep in mind this is Division III... and the Landmark Conference. Students better be of good academic standing for starters (which still shocks many I got into Goucher! ). Secondly, just because a player skips around the block a few times, doesn't mean he might be a hired gun, lucky break, purposely added player, or anything else with malice intentions to the conference or the team.

Transfers are very common as we all know... Goucher got one that also changed how they played and arguably how the conference finished overall. He certainly didn't move around through schools as he is a freshman.

My point is that criticizing or bringing up the fact an addition of a player is questionable without really knowing what is going is something that actually bothers me. It has happened on several occasions this year in other places and it is something that has become a pet peeve. No school is perfect... no transfer story is the same... and they don't always end up with the same result.

Now that I am off my soap box... I will leave it to everyone to do as you wish.

[cold_case]

That might get them off the snide.

I highly doubt you will ever get off the snide.
The term you are trying to use, however, is to get off the schneid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(G)

You are correct. I didn't have my Thesaurus nearby.
Now, instead of copy editing, why not toss your hat in the ring regarding your fellow CU alum's "insinuating" post.

[Matt Letourneau]

Matt or anyone else - let's keep in mind this is Division III... and the Landmark Conference. Students better be of good academic standing for starters (which still shocks many I got into Goucher! ). Secondly, just because a player skips around the block a few times, doesn't mean he might be a hired gun, lucky break, purposely added player, or anything else with malice intentions to the conference or the team.

Transfers are very common as we all know... Goucher got one that also changed how they played and arguably how the conference finished overall. He certainly didn't move around through schools as he is a freshman.

My point is that criticizing or bringing up the fact an addition of a player is questionable without really knowing what is going is something that actually bothers me. It has happened on several occasions this year in other places and it is something that has become a pet peeve. No school is perfect... no transfer story is the same... and they don't always end up with the same result.

Now that I am off my soap box... I will leave it to everyone to do as you wish.

Well, let be even more clear, even though my posts were sprinkled with the appropriate caveats--I am not criticizing anyone or anything.  I chose my words carefully on purpose--if you wish to read further into them than what I actually wrote, then that is entirely your choice. 

We're talking about the leading scorer of the league, I don't think it is out of bounds to at least point out that the history of that player is unusual for this league.  It doesn't automatically make it bad or good.   People do transfer all the time in Division III, yes--but I do not think I can recall anyone that had so many stops and landed as a junior at a D3 school.   So this is a most unusual circumstance.  As I said, I hope it works out for everyone involved, including the league. 

[cold_case]

Matt, why are you even bringing this up?

[Matt Letourneau]

Matt, why are you even bringing this up?

Because I was looking at the Landmark conference statistics the other day when Catholic was playing Drew and his numbers popped out at me, and I got curious as to where he came from.  I sometimes look up players backgrounds, but I was pretty surprised when I saw he was a Rutgers recruit, and then I wonder what happened and found the rest.  At the very least, it was interesting. 

[cold_case]

Matt, why are you even bringing this up?

Because I was looking at the Landmark conference statistics the other day when Catholic was playing Drew and his numbers popped out at me, and I got curious as to where he came from.  I sometimes look up players backgrounds, but I was pretty surprised when I saw he was a Rutgers recruit, and then I wonder what happened and found the rest.  At the very least, it was interesting. 

That's not it and you know it. There is much more but you won't spit it out. That's fine. Maybe if this kid should hit the game winner to beat CU in the playoffs, it will make you irate enough to say what all of us know what's on your mind.

[kate]

Dear heavens, conversations like this make it so hard for me to MMOB, especially since i voweled to not really follow what goes on in  this league, except for who wins at the end of the season.  Stay friends overall, people, remember why you initially banded - You guys truly seem to be "in a league of your own"  - have fun in post season play, i know we will certainly do our best to do so.  Maybe our paths will cross

[Pat Coleman]

That might get them off the snide.

I highly doubt you will ever get off the snide.
The term you are trying to use, however, is to get off the schneid.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_baseball_(G)

You are correct. I didn't have my Thesaurus nearby.
Now, instead of copy editing, why not toss your hat in the ring regarding your fellow CU alum's "insinuating" post.

I don't really have anything to say about it. These kind of transfers happen fairly often and I am glad there are schools willing to give a kid a chance to settle down and hopefully make progress toward a degree.

[NEPAFAN]

Mr. Coleman,


Kate misused a word, please call her out on the message board.


Thanks.



Capers is looking to go to Law School, if he has the grades and can drop 20 a night , more power to him.

[Pat Coleman]

Kate misused a word, please call her out on the message board.

Kate isn't/wasn't a "professional" newspaper reporter, to my knowledge. If so, I might.

[kate]

Sorry to wreck your cerebral day, NEPAFAN, but that's how riled up i was - VOWED - O.K.?  God bless that young man at Drew - hope he goes very far in this life!  Even in the MAC, Hubby & i always said "Go Drew".   Actually, Pat, hate to admit it, but used to work in the Editorial Dept. of the now gone Mack Printing Co.    Basketball topics just get me truly wound, usually for the better.

[NEPAFAN]

Sorry to wreck your cerebral day, NEPAFAN, but that's how riled up i was - VOWED - O.K.?  God bless that young man at Drew - hope he goes very far in this life!  Even in the MAC, Hubby & i always said "Go Drew".   Actually, Pat, hate to admit it, but used to work in the Editorial Dept. of the now gone Mack Printing Co.    Basketball topics just get me truly wound, usually for the better.

Kate , it was a shot at Mr. Coleman not you. Not sure why you have a self-imposed ban on us Landmarkers...


Pat, I get it now thanks for the explanation.