MBB: Landmark Conference

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

nepafan, i'm an F&M guy (grew up in scranton) and those teams are in the same boat.  Scranton deserved more respect than be thrown in the NESCAC gauntlet and so did F&M, which has to run thru a pair of methodist schools to even face amherst/wiliams.

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

oh Saratoga, i couldnt agree more.  Scranton should be hosting over cabrini.  and more importantly both scranton and F&M should be taking GMC's spot in that joke of a pod. 

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

REGIONAL RANKINGS... you can not complain that Scranton should be hosting when last week they were NOT in the regional rankings... and in the final rankings they sit 9th.

By the numbers:
Team               In-Region            OWP             OOWP            SOS         Reg. Ranked
Scranton        19-5 (.792)           .452               .450              .451           2-1 (.667)
Cabrini           22-5 (.815)           .510               .493              .504           5-0 (1.000)
F&M               20-5 (.800)            .468              .452              .463            0-2 (.000)

Tell me again why Scranton or F&M should be hosting and Cabrini shouldn't?!

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

Dave, 4 of those 5 cabrini wins were against teams in their own conference.  All 3 teams lost 5 games.  All 3 won both their regular season and conference championships.  Yet one hosts a joke of a pod while the other two are thrown into difficult spots. 

[ronk]

We know that the Scranton women have been given a pool C berth and the hosting selection; that can be the only reason the men aren't hosting.

[saratoga]

Dave: Cabrini's "high" ranking in the Regionals has been a topic of conversation since they first landed there. If you are going to use that argument, that somehow Regional Rankings are the precursor to overall better teams...then where the hell is Kean right now?

[cold_case]

oh Saratoga, i couldnt agree more.  Scranton should be hosting over cabrini.  and more importantly both scranton and F&M should be taking GMC's spot in that joke of a pod. 

Lusty, no offense, but an F&M guy should be the last to complain about host sites, honestly.

Saratoga, you've been around since the mid-1970's so you should know better regarding the political end of this annual selection farce. The only alarming trend is that it's consistent now more than ever.
It's always someone on the regional committee that either has their school involved in the tourney or has ties to a certain school or conference.
It is bush league but there is nothing anyone can do.

[cold_case]

Saratoga, Lusty, ronk. Don't even waste your time with this guy.

[NEPAFAN]

Dave: Cabrini's "high" ranking in the Regionals has been a topic of conversation since they first landed there. If you are going to use that argument, that somehow Regional Rankings are the precursor to overall better teams...then where the hell is Kean right now?

Didn't last year show anything? Cabrini was 22-4 and lost by 30 to the number 16 team in the nation. I am not saying that Scranton is going to the Sweet Sixteen, but I think the CSAC is over inflated.

[LustyLarryintheToilet]

cold case, i understand your sentiment, and i'm assuming you are referring to two years ago.  Remember though, in that bracket every big team was upset.  Widener and ithaca both lost in opening rounds (along with other teams).  Based on geography, gym factors, etc, F&M was the only choice for the sectionals that year.  Were we given a gift in the first round? of course, but everything after that in 09 fell into place. And for the record, most f&M fans still feel jobbed about traveling first to Merchant Marine and second St. Mary's in 2010.

that said, i'm hoping scranton hosts f&M on 3/11!!!

also i schooled d-mac on the centennial board, and i agree he's not really worth wasting time over.

[cold_case]

cold case, i understand your sentiment, and i'm assuming you are referring to two years ago.  Remember though, in that bracket every big team was upset.  Widener and ithaca both lost in opening rounds (along with other teams).  Based on geography, gym factors, etc, F&M was the only choice for the sectionals that year.  Were we given a gift in the first round? of course, but everything after that in 09 fell into place. And for the record, most f&M fans still feel jobbed about traveling first to Merchant Marine and second St. Mary's in 2010.

that said, i'm hoping scranton hosts f&M on 3/11!!!

also i schooled d-mac on the centennial board, and i agree he's not really worth wasting time over.

You are down to -16

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Lusty - read the Centennial board again - I don't think your "facts" stood up.

[Matt Letourneau]

Lusty - read the Centennial board again - I don't think your "facts" stood up.

You seemed to be arguing a different point than he was.  You stated that F&M shouldn't be hosting, and he agreed with you.  His argument was that F&M deserved GMC's spot.  I have no idea if that's true or not--did I see that GMC finished higher in the regional rankings?--but it isn't the same thing as saying F&M should be hosting.

And obviously Scranton shouldn't be, though out of curiosity, what is Kean's OWP, OOWP and SOS?

[Pat Coleman]

We know that the Scranton women have been given a pool C berth and the hosting selection; that can be the only reason the men aren't hosting.

Yes, but certainly they were regionally ranked when they got to host. Scranton hasn't even been in the regional rankings once.

The only reason I even projected them to host a pod last night is they were in a bracket with two teams that could not host, Rochester and Amherst. Scranton was my third choice to host that group. The other two were hosting women's pods.

[NEPAFAN]

I don't think Scranton deserved to host. But I think we can all agree that Cabrini and Gwynned Mercy are overrated.